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Old 25 September 2022, 01:16 AM   #1
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Daytona 116500ln issue need advice

I've had my Daytona 116500ln for almost 4 years now which was bought brand new from my AD. Recently I've noticed any time I use the chronograph function it causes the watch time to stop entirely within a few hours even if it's fully wound and worn for a few days. When I don't use the chronograph function the watch keeps perfect time and doesnt stop. In the past I use to run the chronograph function daily and it never caused the watch to stop or this issue. I have 1 year of warranty left so will probably send it in to rsc but curious if this has happened to anyone else. The watch has never been dropped and is always on a orbita winder when not used as I rotate my collection.
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Old 25 September 2022, 01:22 AM   #2
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Send it in asap. That’s a rare issue I have not heard of.
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Old 25 September 2022, 01:27 AM   #3
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Wonder how many owners have this issue and don't know it as they rarely, if ever, use the chronograph function. LOL Send it in ASAP while it's still under warranty.
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Old 25 September 2022, 01:44 AM   #4
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No idea but take it to rsc anyway for an eval
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Old 25 September 2022, 02:02 AM   #5
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4 years means it's still under warranty
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Old 25 September 2022, 03:35 AM   #6
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Send it in for repair before warranty runs out.
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Old 25 September 2022, 03:51 AM   #7
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No idea but take it to rsc anyway for an eval
Ditto.
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Old 25 September 2022, 04:06 AM   #8
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What's a chronograph?

Just joking, I actually use them often
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Old 25 September 2022, 04:07 AM   #9
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Weird, but considering the age and these tiny marvels I'd send it in. Plus you'll get nice new gaskets
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Old 25 September 2022, 04:55 AM   #10
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Just curious, but do you know it’s fully wound or are you assuming it to be the case? Maybe try manually winding until full, then testing, just to be sure?
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Old 25 September 2022, 11:39 AM   #11
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Aaaaaah sounds like you should send it in for service, not sure how else to say that
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Old 25 September 2022, 11:41 AM   #12
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You have a warranty. Use it.
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Old 25 September 2022, 12:29 PM   #13
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Running the chronograph obviously will consume the power reserve more quickly. Why would you run it for hours?
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Old 25 September 2022, 10:33 PM   #14
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Running the chronograph obviously will consume the power reserve more quickly. Why would you run it for hours?
Obviously keen to wear the movement out as quickly as possible. Running the Chrono all the time and leaving it on a winder. Give the movement a rest!
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Old 25 September 2022, 10:50 PM   #15
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I just got back my 116500LN from RSC service. It was losing 30 minutes every 12 hrs. Both the AD as well as the RSC asked if had and warned about letting the chronograph run continuously. It was sold new in 2019 and still under warranty.

I had recently done just that for about 3 days straight since I never use the stop watch thinking I should let the oils move. Use this info as you see fit.
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Old 26 September 2022, 02:56 AM   #16
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I just got back my 116500LN from RSC service. It was losing 30 minutes every 12 hrs. Both the AD as well as the RSC asked if had and warned about letting the chronograph run continuously. It was sold new in 2019 and still under warranty.

I had recently done just that for about 3 days straight since I never use the stop watch thinking I should let the oils move. Use this info as you see fit.

Rolex UK have confirmed there is no issue whatsoever in running the chronograph continuously. The only effect will be a marginal reduction in power reserve. They suggested the 72 hour reserve, on a full wind, would reduce to around 70 hours.
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Old 26 September 2022, 03:10 AM   #17
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Rolex UK have confirmed there is no issue whatsoever in running the chronograph continuously. The only effect will be a marginal reduction in power reserve. They suggested the 72 hour reserve, on a full wind, would reduce to around 70 hours.
Which is why I wonder if the OP's watch was truly fully wound, or he just assumed it was because he'd been wearing it consistently.
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Old 26 September 2022, 04:07 AM   #18
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There should never be an issue with running the chronograph continuously on a watch intentionally built for stopwatch timing.
That’s like saying you don’t want your perpetual calendar to run continuously or your dive watch to get wet; so what’s the point of buying it?
If you have to make an excuse for not running your chronograph then perhaps the watch is not what it is supposed to be.
I always run my chronographs, including my Zenith Daytona.
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Old 26 September 2022, 04:09 AM   #19
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Wonder how many owners have this issue and don't know it as they rarely, if ever, use the chronograph function. LOL Send it in ASAP while it's still under warranty.
As was explained to me by my AD, once out of warranty, a repair/servicing can run between 1-2k.
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Old 26 September 2022, 05:42 AM   #20
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Daytona 116500ln issue need advice

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Rolex UK have confirmed there is no issue whatsoever in running the chronograph continuously. The only effect will be a marginal reduction in power reserve. They suggested the 72 hour reserve, on a full wind, would reduce to around 70 hours.


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Which is why I wonder if the OP's watch was truly fully wound, or he just assumed it was because he'd been wearing it consistently.


Yep guys - I believe there is no way for the vertical clutch and chrono module in the 4130 to cause this. After all, the vertical system is always “in mesh” with the timekeeping wheel train.




Being always in mesh means that starting the chronograph does not generate significant additional drag.

So I think the OP might want to test the module’s operating effect by fully winding the crown 40 turns and the. Trying the chrono to see if it makes a difference.


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Old 27 September 2022, 04:00 AM   #21
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@77t Yes I also manually wound it around 35 times to verify it had sufficient power. I am sending it in through my AD to Rolex NYC today for warranty work. Is there anything before giving the watch to my AD I need to do? I will take pics from all angles at the Ad.
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Old 27 September 2022, 05:52 AM   #22
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I just got back my 116500LN from RSC service. It was losing 30 minutes every 12 hrs. Both the AD as well as the RSC asked if had and warned about letting the chronograph run continuously. It was sold new in 2019 and still under warranty.

I had recently done just that for about 3 days straight since I never use the stop watch thinking I should let the oils move. Use this info as you see fit.
This seems quite shocking that an RSC would essentially state that using the chrono too much damages the watch. Did you echo that back to them to make sure that is really what they were suggesting?
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Old 27 September 2022, 06:17 AM   #23
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not common at all but def. send to RSC asap!
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Old 27 September 2022, 06:22 AM   #24
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Let us know the outcome - seems like an odd issue - I would think that the internal systems might be separated in some form to prevent one from affecting the other.
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Old 28 September 2022, 03:32 AM   #25
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I would send it in get it fixed and then flip that watch. Rolex should not break under warranty
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Old 28 September 2022, 04:02 AM   #26
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Send it in for repair before warranty runs out.
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Old 28 September 2022, 04:45 AM   #27
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Already sent it in through my AD specifically for issues when using the chronograph causing the Daytona to stop working entirely. I'm hoping Rolex doesnt give me a bogus excuse and say it's not covered under warranty and try to charge me something astronomical since this timepiece has never been dropped, abused, or taken underwater. Its in flawless condition with a few hairline scratches on braclet and lug from normal wear. This is my first rolex I've had to send in for any warranty work. I sent my AP in when it was not keeping the correct time and was gaining 30 seconds a day and they did a terrific job under warranty remedying the issue.
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Old 28 September 2022, 09:44 AM   #28
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I've been told there is no issues running the chrono constantly esp for a vertical clutch chrono. I use it to track second time zones sometimes.
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I just got back my 116500LN from RSC service. It was losing 30 minutes every 12 hrs. Both the AD as well as the RSC asked if had and warned about letting the chronograph run continuously. It was sold new in 2019 and still under warranty.

I had recently done just that for about 3 days straight since I never use the stop watch thinking I should let the oils move. Use this info as you see fit.
It was losing 30 minutes every 12 hrs in all my 50 plus years of being around Rolex watches never ever heard of any Rolex watch losing that amount of time.
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@77t Yes I also manually wound it around 35 times to verify it had sufficient power. I am sending it in through my AD to Rolex NYC today for warranty work. Is there anything before giving the watch to my AD I need to do? I will take pics from all angles at the Ad.

I’ve been traveling since posting and by now you’ve sent it in so I’m late for advice. I don’t believe there’s anything special to do beyond the pics you took.

I presume it’s an AD that you’ve had good relationship with.

I always send mine directly to RSC but that’s just me.

Hopefully all will be well once the diagnose the issue you reported.


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