The Rolex Forums   The Rolex Watch

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX


Go Back   Rolex Forums - Rolex Watch Forum > Rolex & Tudor Watch Topics > Rolex General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 19 September 2022, 09:27 AM   #1
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
Embarrassing experience at Rolex boutique meatpacking NYC

Wen't to the Rolex/Tudor boutique in Meatpacking in NYC today to have a link added to my watch (I brought the link with me). I have a bit of a hand tremor so I don’t like to do my own links/adjustments. Anyway I go in and told the "greeter" that I wanted to add a link to my watch and she looked at me like I had 5 heads. She had no clue what I was talking about and if this is something the boutique even did! So she got her manager. The manager proceeded to tell me they don’t have a watchmaker on weekends and none of the sales associates could do it because I didn't have an appointment. This wasn't a situation where the stores won't let you in without an appointment either - I was fully free to enter and look around... What a joke! It takes approximately 1 minute to add the link. Between not knowing what adding a Link meant and not even offering to have an associate (let alone a watchmaker, but the weekend - fine) do the adjustment in between appointments is nuts

Went to watches of Switzerland in soho and was treated much better. Gladly added the link and asked if there was anything else they could help me with.
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 09:35 AM   #2
dannyp
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: usa
Posts: 6,765
Just as well. More than one story here about noon-watchmaker causing serious damage when attempting to add or remove links.
dannyp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:03 AM   #3
amh
"TRF" Member
 
amh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tejas
Watch: Various
Posts: 5,081
Nothing embarrassing about that - I'd find an independent watch tech. This doesn't need to be done at an AD.
amh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:10 AM   #4
messikens
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: SFO
Posts: 1,031
Quote:
Originally Posted by amh View Post
Nothing embarrassing about that - I'd find an independent watch tech. This doesn't need to be done at an AD.
Frankly I think that IS poor service. He went to "the" boutique at "that" location in one of the largest / best cities in the world and a pure Rolex boutique cannot perform a modicum of what you'd expect to be done?!?

I have been there a number of times and tbh I feel it's beyond poor. The greeters are just that. You may get a free Cappuccino out of it (yay) but even the sales staff has almost no idea of what the brand is, what history it represents etc.

I recently viewed a SkyD for the fun of it and the SA had no idea how to even adjust it and what the "red dot" signified... I mean come on, I know people are buying anything that hits the store but still... some training should be the minimum
messikens is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:12 AM   #5
triple.lindy
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: US
Posts: 232
I’m surprised to hear that. I’ve always had great experiences there since it opened. I stop in anytime I’m in town


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
triple.lindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:23 AM   #6
SS Oyster
"TRF" Member
 
SS Oyster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 8,800
OP - I have had a bad experience with SAs trying to do bracelet adjustments, even a store mgr messed up a screw, so better you leave that up to watchmaker.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
SS Oyster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:31 AM   #7
dmash
"TRF" Member
 
dmash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA <> BKK
Posts: 5,912
How is this embarrassing though?
dmash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:51 AM   #8
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmash View Post
How is this embarrassing though?
to be the newest Rolex only boutique in a major city and 1) not have a watchmaker available at all times (they have them at other locations in nyc) 2) not know what it meant to add a link and have to ask a manager if thats something the store does and 3) cannot take 1 minute to have an SA do it because no appointment, forgetting the possibility of doing it in between appointments or something
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:52 AM   #9
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by amh View Post
Nothing embarrassing about that - I'd find an independent watch tech. This doesn't need to be done at an AD.
Sure, it just happens to be this location is the closest place to me of any that should be able to add a link to an expensive watch.
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 10:52 AM   #10
csaltphoto
"TRF" Member
 
csaltphoto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: US
Watch: sub
Posts: 2,293
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmash View Post
How is this embarrassing though?
It's embarrassing for Rolex (or at least that particular AD) Part of the experience should be exceptional service for every customer who walks in.
csaltphoto is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 11:03 AM   #11
dmash
"TRF" Member
 
dmash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA <> BKK
Posts: 5,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsfan0704 View Post
to be the newest Rolex only boutique in a major city and 1) not have a watchmaker available at all times (they have them at other locations in nyc) 2) not know what it meant to add a link and have to ask a manager if thats something the store does and 3) cannot take 1 minute to have an SA do it because no appointment, forgetting the possibility of doing it in between appointments or something
Ah, I misunderstood, I thought you meant embarrassing for you, not the brand itself.

Yeah, def agree on that aspect, but this has happened with a lot of business models post COVID. So much demand, they can have whatever customer service they want and the items will still sale. Nobody has to hustle anymore.
dmash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 11:06 AM   #12
Bmats
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
Bmats's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: East Coast
Posts: 483
My AD always has watch technicians do the bracelet adjustments when I’ve gotten new pieces, and as much as I like the SAs I’m not sure I’d want them to be the one doing the adjustment. Nor do I think my SA would want to do it.

I do find it weird they had no one there to do the adjustment, though. I mean, what if someone bought a piece.
Bmats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 11:08 AM   #13
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bmats View Post
My AD always has watch technicians do the bracelet adjustments when I’ve gotten new pieces, and as much as I like the SAs I’m not sure I’d want them to be the one doing the adjustment. Nor do I think my SA would want to do it.

I do find it weird they had no one there to do the adjustment, though. I mean, what if someone bought a piece.
I was so tempted to be like "well its not like you're selling anything to adjust anyway" but I held back lol
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 11:32 AM   #14
Benzsiam
2024 Pledge Member
 
Benzsiam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: USA
Watch: Rolex/AP/PP/ALS
Posts: 5,922
I would rather come back later for the watchmaker to do the job, no need to be upset.
__________________
Rolex: 116621, 126333, 126711CHNR, 114060, 116500LN White, 126660 JC, 126710BLNR, 126710BLRO, 116610LV, 126610LN, 126610LV, 116508 YG Green Dial, 124300 Turquoise, 126719BLRO Meteorite dial, 228235 Olive dial ,126755SARU, 116505 RG Black dial, 326934 Blue Sky D.
Audemars Piguet: 15451ST Blue, 15500OR w/Bracelet, 14790SA, 14790BA, 26022BC(Salmon) Patek Philippe: 5524R, 5712G, ALS: Time Zone 136.032, Cartier: WGSA0030, WSSA0061, YG Oct. 2965, Breguet: 7137BA, MontBlanc: 109996"
, Seiko: SRPA21,
Benzsiam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 12:06 PM   #15
Mbbgysam
2024 Pledge Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 1,027
I wouldn’t sweat it. Greeters are just that — they aren’t trained for after sales service.

Fun fact since you mentioned WoS… when I picked up my Patek a few years ago they didn’t have a PP-trained technician on staff that day to size the bracelet, so they ended up sizing and shipping it to me the next day.. Yes it sucked in the moment, but it does happen.
Mbbgysam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 12:35 PM   #16
BlondesNwatches
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2022
Location: USA
Posts: 276
I'd expect an NYC Boutique to be able to do something as simple as this during any open hours. Pretty sad state that it couldn't. I'd agree with the OP that it'd be considered embarrassing.
BlondesNwatches is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 12:39 PM   #17
CarlOver
"TRF" Member
 
CarlOver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2021
Location: US
Posts: 1,919
Not great. I always call ahead to ensure that what I want done can be taken care. I’d rather not make a trip since I assumed.
CarlOver is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 12:54 PM   #18
77T
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 40,725
If it was the RSC on 5th Av, then I’d say it was embarrassing.

But the Boutique is a sales center first and foremost. OP didn’t know their weekend routine and should be glad it wasn’t handed over to SA who might’ve screwed the pooch.

Then the thread would say “disappointing” instead of “embarrassing”.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 12:57 PM   #19
EEpro
2024 Pledge Member
 
EEpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Real Name: Brad
Location: Purdue
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 9,084
You didn't want them doing the work anyway
__________________
Ω
2FA Active
EEpro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 01:03 PM   #20
Seddyspaghetti
"TRF" Member
 
Seddyspaghetti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Uranus
Watch: 116500LN
Posts: 4,622
Lol they can’t be bothered. Tourneau on 57th would’ve probably been a better option to add a link.
Seddyspaghetti is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 01:26 PM   #21
sportsfan0704
"TRF" Member
 
sportsfan0704's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: New York
Posts: 722
Quote:
Originally Posted by 77T View Post
If it was the RSC on 5th Av, then I’d say it was embarrassing.

But the Boutique is a sales center first and foremost. OP didn’t know their weekend routine and should be glad it wasn’t handed over to SA who might’ve screwed the pooch.

Then the thread would say “disappointing” instead of “embarrassing”.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
They scratched my watch case removing the bracelet previously. Left marks on BOTH sides of the lugs
sportsfan0704 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 02:09 PM   #22
herefortheattachment
"TRF" Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Mars
Posts: 116
It’s mind blowing how you can walk into a shop that sells fine Swiss machines with hundreds of tiny parts working in perfect harmony, and the very staff representing the brand are at a complete loss as to how to change a bloody link

I once went to a gray dealer with a CW21 watchmaker on premises to get some links removed from my Seamaster 300M, and was greeted by the owner. He looked at my bracelet, and began stammering… said it was going to be “really difficult” to do (huh?! There’s a tool for it! You guys fix chronometers and have 200k+ in watches in your showcase!). He wanted to charge $10 to remove the links Ran over to the Omega boutique and had it done for free by the very associate that greeted me. Patiently worked with me to get it sized just right, and had a warm smile the whole time.
herefortheattachment is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 02:13 PM   #23
dmash
"TRF" Member
 
dmash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: USA <> BKK
Posts: 5,912
Quote:
Originally Posted by herefortheattachment View Post
It’s mind blowing how you can walk into a shop that sells fine Swiss machines with hundreds of tiny parts working in perfect harmony, and the very staff representing the brand are at a complete loss as to how to change a bloody link

I once went to a gray dealer with a CW21 watchmaker on premises to get some links removed from my Seamaster 300M, and was greeted by the owner. He looked at my bracelet, and began stammering… said it was going to be “really difficult” to do (huh?! There’s a tool for it! You guys fix chronometers and have 200k+ in watches in your showcase!). He wanted to charge $10 to remove the links Ran over to the Omega boutique and had it done for free by the very associate that greeted me. Patiently worked with me to get it sized just right, and had a warm smile the whole time.

You wanted a shop, independent of Omega themselves, to take time to remove links and were unhappy they wanted to charge you $10 for said services? Do you also walk into tailors after buying pants at a store, asking them for free hemwork?

Or am I missing something?
dmash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 02:30 PM   #24
77T
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 40,725
Quote:
Originally Posted by sportsfan0704 View Post
They scratched my watch case removing the bracelet previously. Left marks on BOTH sides of the lugs

So…you’re definitely happy that an SA wasn’t eager to do worse to your link screwheads!

I do my own but understand why you aren’t - and respect that judgement.

The thing that SAs don’t do well is soften the threadlock compound sufficiently before launching into screwhead twisting. This is the primary cause of damage to screwheads.

And they NEVER reapply the correct needletip dab of it before reinstalling screws. Lack of threadlock is the primary cause of screws backing out over time, and too much is the cause of link seizure also.

This is where true experience is best sought when a watchmaker can do it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 02:33 PM   #25
77T
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
77T's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Real Name: PaulG
Location: Georgia
Posts: 40,725
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmash View Post

Or am I missing something?
Well put…

Maybe things are done differently on Mars ?? (Check the profile)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
__________________


Does anyone really know what time it is?
77T is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 02:34 PM   #26
EEpro
2024 Pledge Member
 
EEpro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Real Name: Brad
Location: Purdue
Watch: Daytona
Posts: 9,084
it's cold there. I know that.
__________________
Ω
2FA Active
EEpro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 02:50 PM   #27
alllexandru
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
alllexandru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Real Name: Alex
Location: Old continent
Posts: 2,317
Quote:
Originally Posted by amh View Post
Nothing embarrassing about that - I'd find an independent watch tech. This doesn't need to be done at an AD.

Why do we need an AD then?
Customer service should be one of the first priorities, a watch kit for adjusting, sizing bracelets don’t require suck rock science knowledge

Is not about just buying/selling but also keep a good service and support thru the journey of the owner.

I might be also school yes
alllexandru is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 04:48 PM   #28
joli160
2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member
 
joli160's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: NL
Watch: Yachtmaster
Posts: 14,355
I understand the SA. What if they tried to help you out and marred the screw pin a little ?
The thread title would be different
__________________
Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.
joli160 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 05:25 PM   #29
Fleetlord
"TRF" Member
 
Fleetlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Vain
Posts: 5,920
Not their job.
Fleetlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 19 September 2022, 05:29 PM   #30
DCheeta
"TRF" Member
 
DCheeta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Real Name: Dave
Location: NYC
Posts: 7,180
I don’t like the vibe in that store at all. It’s my fault though, I’m not cool enough for most places in Meatpacking.
DCheeta is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

My Watch LLC

OCWatches

DavidSW Watches

Coronet

Takuya Watches

Bobs Watches

Asset Appeal


*Banners Of The Month*
This space is provided to horological resources.





Copyright ©2004-2024, The Rolex Forums. All Rights Reserved.

ROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEXROLEX

Rolex is a registered trademark of ROLEX USA. The Rolex Forums is not affiliated with ROLEX USA in any way.