Conspiracy theory

[watchwatcher]

Oh come on, surely you can find something better to worry about.

[Speedbird-1]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’m lost as to why they needed to take your watch into the “back room”

That's where they keep
the Casio 'exchange' movements, of course!

At least you get an, accurate timekeeper back.

[No SUBctitute]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

Also an ETA movement sets time differently than a 3130 movement. Clockwise turns=equals clockwise hands, ETA=clockwise turns=counter clockwise hands. You're all good.

I never knew that. That's all it takes to spot a fake DJ or Sub?

[rambo99]

you should have probably noticed it when you wind the watch and set the time.

[~JJ]

Do you worry about the car dealership swapping engines when you get an oil change?

[smym18]

Take your watch to another jeweler, have them go in the back and open it to make sure, receive watch back, get paranoid again, take to another jeweler, repeat.

[MonBK]

Originally Posted by ~JJ

Do you worry about the car dealership swapping engines when you get an oil change?

Jocke does that all the time.

[Nikrnic]

You never know what goes on in the back room. Why would they need to take it back there for 10 minutes to appraise it when you just asked a question and we're not making a deal yet. I wouldn't take mine off and hand it to anyone unless I was actually making the deal. Probably nothing happened but you did ask what if.

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[kinyik]

Originally Posted by brandrea

I’m lost as to why they needed to take your watch into the “back room”

Haha cause the boss was out back!


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[kinyik]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

You never know what goes on in the back room. Why would they need to take it back there for 10 minutes to appraise it when you just asked a question and we're not making a deal yet. I wouldn't take mine off and hand it to anyone unless I was actually making the deal. Probably nothing happened but you did ask what if.

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Yeah that’s true. But the store was pretty packed at the time and the boss was out behind in the office making calls. Digging my own grave perhaps .


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[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by kinyik

Yeah that’s true. But the store was pretty packed at the time and the boss was out behind in the office making calls. Digging my own grave perhaps .


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the watchmaker is in the back. They can tell pretty quickly if its real or not so maybe they wanted to have someone look at it and he was busy at the moment. Sales people generally know little about watches. thats probably more plausible.

[Nikrnic]

That's true, I get it, just looking at the dark conspiracy theory. hehe.

Originally Posted by tyler1980

the watchmaker is in the back. They can tell pretty quickly if its real or not so maybe they wanted to have someone look at it and he was busy at the moment. Sales people generally know little about watches. thats probably more plausible.

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[subtona]

if you are familiar with your watch, i would anticipate a noticeable difference when winding or listening to the movement.

[Whiskey Tango ...]

Originally Posted by Mephist

Just to add to your paranoia. Could he have switched out the whole watch? Given you a replica back. Spending those 10 minutes, recreating your scratches and dings to make it look similar to the original sub 114060 you gave him

That’s mean

[t65tampa]

You should have taken their offer.

[RonSwanson]

The dial feet wouldn’t line up, the date wheel would be all wrong, and the hand are a different size, so while possible, it would take longer than 10 minutes.

ETA spins the hands in the opposite direction while setting time vs a real Rolex movement. Your muscle memory would recognize right away that it was wrong.

Don’t worry, all they did was internet research.

[donq]

Like most conspiracy theories, this is implausible and a waste of time.

[JimSnyder]

I've got nothing......

[77T]

I’m guessing this has cured you of asking hypothetical questions that cause your watch to end up in the “back room”. After all you had no intentions of selling it right then...

But as many have confirmed, no they couldn’t insert an ETA into the case. A disreputable watchmaker could insert a Chinese clone but you said it was a reputable jeweler so not really likely.


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[dubins930]

This is off the hook! We’ve come to this hahahaha

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by RonSwanson

ETA spins the hands in the opposite direction while setting time vs a real Rolex movement. Your muscle memory would recognize right away that it was wrong.

This.

Set the watch. If the hands move forward with a clockwise turn of the crown, you're good to go.

If not, well, talk to a lawyer.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by Mephist

Just to add to your paranoia. Could he have switched out the whole watch? Given you a replica back. Spending those 10 minutes, recreating your scratches and dings to make it look similar to the original sub 114060 you gave him

Mmm, mmm, mmm that’s just wrong.

[kinyik]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

This.



Set the watch. If the hands move forward with a clockwise turn of the crown, you're good to go.



If not, well, talk to a lawyer.

Ah I see! But I’ve read that new replicas have solved the issue of the winding direction .


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[kinyik]

Originally Posted by 77T

I’m guessing this has cured you of asking hypothetical questions that cause your watch to end up in the “back room”. After all you had no intentions of selling it right then...

But as many have confirmed, no they couldn’t insert an ETA into the case. A disreputable watchmaker could insert a Chinese clone but you said it was a reputable jeweler so not really likely.


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Yeah I was just genuinely curious if one could put in a clone in 10 minutes :)


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[kinyik]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

the watchmaker is in the back. They can tell pretty quickly if its real or not so maybe they wanted to have someone look at it and he was busy at the moment. Sales people generally know little about watches. thats probably more plausible.

Yeah I’m gonna go with this :) the sales people are clueless on occasions when you expect them not to be .


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[Bigblu10]

No other movement would "feel" the same. Winding, pulling out crown, moving the hands etc. Once you have owned a Rolex(s) you know the distinctive traits of the movement and it's quirks. BTW, this would be paranoia at the Nth degree!

[77T]

Originally Posted by kinyik

Yeah I was just genuinely curious if one could put in a clone in 10 minutes :)


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Not within 10 minutes when you consider the time it takes to remove back, crown, hands, dial and then movement swap + put everything back together.




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[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by kinyik

Ah I see! But I’ve read that new replicas have solved the issue of the winding direction .


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We were discussing ETA movements, not replicas, which is against the rules.




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