Rolex 14060m 4-liner Market Value

[wingard_20]

As we all know, prices of the rolex sports model under the 5-digit serial are slowly increasing. Some are more expensive than the newer models but others would have greater value. With regards to the no-date sub category, would the 14060m slowly takeover ref.114060?

I’ve been seeing 14060m 4-liner being sold for 9,000 USD and up which made me think, will this be the same case with the crazy pricing on the pre ceramic GMTs?








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[037]

Originally Posted by wingard_20

...will this be the same case with the crazy pricing on the pre ceramic GMTs?

Predictions are difficult to make, especially if they're about the future.

[Blingtone]

Probably not as valuable as a 2-Liner (in my opinion) - then again I'm bound to say that as I own one!
Since thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of both have been produced and are owned around the world, it all depends on your perception / definition of 'valuable' considering they're not rare items at all....

[Onequik135i]

5 year production run of 4 liner vs 15 year production run for the 2 liner (just estimate) so maybe the 4 liner would gain in higher value. Only time will tell.

[Chuckwagon]

Until I joined this forum I didn’t think it was particularly valuable. Mine is a M serial submariner with the 4 lines of blurb and I was thinking of selling it 2 years ago as I don’t wear it too often and so took it to a pawnbroker watch dealer (in Liverpool England), expecting typical depreciation of maybe 50% for a used watch, but they rejected it and didn’t even make me an offer on it and said it wasn’t particularly valuable.

I don’t know if that’s because they thought it was a fake even though I brought the original warranty card with my name on it to prove provenance. They claimed there was a scratch on the dial or the glass, but when I took it to Rolex in London for service they found no such scratch.

Imagine my surprise when I joined this forum and was told it was worth more than the £2000 I had been hoping for....!

[toolr]

Where have you seen 14060 4 liner's for $9000?

[bobabreath]

The 4-line is newer and had a short run compared to 2-line. So maybe worth a small premium. Only a crazy collector would pay way more.

[peterpl]

Honestly buying and keeping watches for the sake of "possibly" increasing the the future is a game you should not be playing.

Plenty of other safer and quicker ways to make money than investing in watches. LOL

[Chuckwagon]

When I got my watch back from Rolex, the lugs has more prominent bevel edges...



...beforehand it looked the same as the OP picture.

I read that over-polishing devalues the watch ...but does it make a difference if it was Rolex themselves that did it? It’s only ever been serviced by Rolex.

I didn’t feel like complaining at the time and tbh I thought it looked nicer but if it is overpolishing that devalues the watch then I’m not sure that is a good thing?

[katiedaddy]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

5 year production run of 4 liner vs 15 year production run for the 2 liner (just estimate) so maybe the 4 liner would gain in higher value. Only time will tell.

I agree with this. Also I am biased since I own a 4 liner.


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[Nikrnic]

The four liner had a shorter run so it's more rare but I'd put my money on a two liner, holes case w/sel's being more desirable, at least to me.

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[toolr]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

The four liner had a shorter run so it's more rare but I'd put my money on a two liner, holes case w/sel's being more desirable, at least to me.

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14060 never had sel's

[El Cascarrabias]

Originally Posted by toolr

Where have you seen 14060 4 liner's for $9000?

Here ya go!

HERE

And apparently someone bought it. It's no longer available.

[Nikrnic]

I meant 14060m which is what the thread states, mine was a K ser. no.

Originally Posted by toolr

14060 never had sel's

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[Seibei]

Originally Posted by Chuckwagon

took it to a pawnbroker watch dealer (in Liverpool England), expecting typical depreciation of maybe 50% for a used watch, but they rejected it and didn’t even make me an offer on it and said it wasn’t particularly valuable.

Some people, this pawnbroker included have decided that they are not going to be successful in business and therefore they are not.

[Chuckwagon]

Originally Posted by Seibei

Some people, this pawnbroker included have decided that they are not going to be successful in business and therefore they are not.

Well it was the reason I joined the forum cos I was so worried when he said it had a scratch (which it actually didn’t) and wasn’t worth much. Although I think he might have said that because he thought it was a fake or couldn’t tell it was real.

It’s kind of fortunate because I probably would have sold if he has offered 2k ono, as it retailed a bit over 3k new when I bought it, and I could have regretted selling it cheap.

I’m astonished at the secondhand market value and if this thread is in any way indicative then I’m glad to have held on to it.

[GradyPhilpott]

My 14060M is randomly identified with the Parachrome Bleu hairspring, which had the shortest run of all.

My plan is to wear it until I die and let my heirs worry about the resale value.

[037]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I meant 14060m which is what the thread states, mine was a K ser. no.

14060M never had SELs, either. All had folded endlinks.

You might be thinking of the 114060.

[Chuckwagon]

I like that my watch has the serial no. engraved twice, around the inside border and also between the lugs at 6. Apparently they only did this for a few transitional years until they stopped engraving the serial no. between the lugs. I wonder if that enhances the collectibility value?

[AdamG]

I would take a 2-liner over a 4-liner any day!

[springer]

Originally Posted by Onequik135i

5 year production run of 4 liner vs 15 year production run for the 2 liner (just estimate) so maybe the 4 liner would gain in higher value. Only time will tell.

It's not about production run but aesthetics with these two dial variations. The two-liner is much preferred due to the cleaner dial absent all the additional verbiage.

[toolr]

Originally Posted by Nikrnic

I meant 14060m which is what the thread states, mine was a K ser. no.

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14060M never had sel's either.

[toolr]

Originally Posted by El Cascarrabias

Here ya go!

HERE

And apparently someone bought it. It's no longer available.

First one I've seen that high, plenty available from trusted sellers for well below $9000.

[ashokleyland]

Originally Posted by wingard_20

As we all know, prices of the rolex sports model under the 5-digit serial are slowly increasing. Some are more expensive than the newer models but others would have greater value. With regards to the no-date sub category, would the 14060m slowly takeover ref.114060?

we can't predict the future
only time can tell.

[Mik8yu]

Originally Posted by toolr

First one I've seen that high, plenty available from trusted sellers for well below $9000.

Has to do with condition probably? All 5 digit sport model that is nos seem to be asking for somewhere near that ball park. Asking price is one thing whether it’s sold at that price without discount is another. A lot of dealers feature watches as mint when it’s been polished. Funny when I see what some called minty sample actually refers to one that’s with scratches polished away. Premium is expected for nos.


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[Chuckwagon]

Originally Posted by springer

It's not about production run but aesthetics with these two dial variations. The two-liner is much preferred due to the cleaner dial absent all the additional verbiage.

But from reading elsewhere in the forum the experts here say that the older submariner with 4 lines (model 5512) are generally worth more than the one with 2 lines (model 5513)... is this true? or is the model 5513 more desirable because it has a better-looking dial?

[037]

Originally Posted by Chuckwagon

But from reading elsewhere in the forum the experts here say that the older submariner with 4 lines (model 5512) are generally worth more than the one with 2 lines (model 5513)... is this true? or is the model 5513 more desirable because it has a better-looking dial?

Great point. The 5512 typically sells for more because it's harder to find. Esthetics don't trump scarcity in that case. The same could potentially happen with the four-line 14060M. It's difficult to say and too soon to know. As of right now the two-line is pretty solid.

[fania123]

I’ll give him a call later

[Finslayer83]

best sports watch ever.

Besides if we play the lineage card it's a modern 5512

[Finslayer83]

Originally Posted by springer

It's not about production run but aesthetics with these two dial variations. The two-liner is much preferred due to the cleaner dial absent all the additional verbiage.

I felt this way but then once I held this I couldn't let it go.