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13 May 2018, 11:21 AM | #1 |
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TRF Scammer: Sun-dail, I've been scammed
So I've been scammed by the user Sun-dail
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=603360 https://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=176790 his email is sundail.2va@gmail.com He was selling a daytona, wondering if anyone else contacted this person and bought from him. Banked him the money and he gave a fraudulent shipment site from http://nextglobalcourier.com/tracking/index.html He also gave references as these https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=sun-dail https://www.rolexforums.com/showthre...light=sun-dail These are his banking details Bank name: Bank of America Account name: Myles Gilford Account number: 334040212656 Bank address: 1200 Mt Zion RD, Morrow GA 30260 Routing number: 061000052 Home address: 238 Indian Branch Way Lawrenceville GA 30043 Swift code: BOFAUS6S Will be making a police report and see what can be done. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. |
13 May 2018, 11:21 AM | #2 |
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I contacted the mods a couple days ago for assistance but none replied =(
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13 May 2018, 11:51 AM | #3 |
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Post Count?
This may not help, but did you notice the Low Post Count of the references? However, information (Return Address Information) from these buyers may be helpful To The Police.
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13 May 2018, 12:08 PM | #4 |
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Interesting he signed up in Feb 2017 but his first post was Jan this year and quite prolifically since. From his FS listings there could be more victims.
Activity of the 'references' is also very suspicious. I'm guessing those accounts were either hacked or registered by perp and then posts made by scammer to give impression of an active account by legitimate TRF members. The 'fluffing' seems to have started in Jan 2018 in preparation of the scam. |
13 May 2018, 12:14 PM | #5 |
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13 May 2018, 12:17 PM | #6 |
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Not so much low post count as they are quite high IMO rather the posting activity is waving red flags. Seems to have started in Jan this year even though accounts registered over 18 months ago
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Anyway, I have banned Sun-dail and the two that gave him references (both were in Florida at the time, though their profile says elsewhere in the country, so it was probably all the same person.) Let me look into it some more.
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Not sure if it helps but seller originally registered from an address in Ohio, but posted the ad from Secaucus, New Jersey. His sign up email was sundail.2va@gmail.com
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13 May 2018, 01:06 PM | #10 |
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13 May 2018, 02:54 PM | #11 |
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Terrible. It's becoming very difficult to buy on the forum.
I hope TRF is able to scan for different username with duplicate IP address. Good luck OP. Do you have his phone contact info? |
13 May 2018, 03:16 PM | #12 |
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Yep on hindsight there were quite a couple of red flags. I'm in the process of reporting to all the relevant parties. Let's see how it goes. Expensive lesson.
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13 May 2018, 08:27 PM | #13 |
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Actually no it isn't and is as easy as ever. Also people don't bu I can't tell you how many times we have warned people over and over again not to buy from unknown sellers with little to no feedback. There are many great well known sellers to choose from that have great inventory. Nobody has ever been burnt by them and they are all good guys. So if one wants to step out there and roll the dice to save a few bucks and deal with an unwon then they choose to play russian roulette. Not a smart choice in my book and not anything I would ever consider doing with my hard earned money. So lots of great well known trusted options here which makes it more than easy and no need to step out into the danger zone.
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Exactly this.
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13 May 2018, 11:04 PM | #17 |
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One was for $10K and the other which I assume the OP bought was over $18K
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13 May 2018, 11:19 PM | #19 |
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Yep, that was them. Notice how scammer continuously misspells dial. A lot of time and effort went into laying the ground work for this scam. Wonder if the photos had been lifted from another site.
Googling the contact email also fails to get any hits which to me is another red flag. |
14 May 2018, 12:34 AM | #20 |
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TRF Scammer: Sun-dail, I've been scammed
Also the pics show a brick home and the home address is a brick home.
OP. Make sure you report it to the FBI internet fraud group. |
14 May 2018, 12:42 AM | #21 |
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Gilford is the surname associated with that address on the tax records. If I was OP I'd be contacting the homeowner (probably father) and see how they respond. Also contact local law enforcement.
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14 May 2018, 01:18 AM | #22 |
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This bad actor shouldn't be too tough to track down.
I found John W. Gilford as a Project Manager at GTC Corporation on LinkedIn - I found a Myles Gilford in Georgia on Facebook. John is unable to spell corporation on his LinkedIn. I have a screenshot of Myles' photo from Facebook if it's the same character. Just in case his facebook profile disappears! |
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John is the father (home owner) so Myles must be the son.
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14 May 2018, 02:53 AM | #24 |
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Really sorry to hear this.
I wasn't suspicious but must admit when I saw his ad I was slightly tempted as his White Daytona price was already low compared to others and even had ONO. In the end I reached out to a trusted seller with a huge solid reputation regardless of the price difference for peace of mind / safety. Really hope you track him down and get your money back |
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Totally agree.
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Sorry to hear. Stay safe out there friends
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Hopefully you had some phone conversations with the seller.....did you?
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14 May 2018, 10:15 AM | #29 |
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This is the same person I reported about on WUS. The picture is exactly the same if I am not mistaken.
He used the name Ignacio Carin, more importantly the images were the same. That thread on WUS has since been deleted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Just awful. So sorry.
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