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Old 15 February 2016, 08:34 AM   #1
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Icon2 Single Red SD - Had Never Seen One

Was offered this single Red SD this past week. It's a service dial, but don't see one everyday.

They wanted crazy money, but it was good to see as I had never seen one before. Watch is '74 service dial about 2008.

Thank you to a few members I pinged via PM...I appreciate the help.

I'm assuming this is a pretty rare beast?

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Old 15 February 2016, 08:46 AM   #2
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Would have liked it even more with big DATE text, but still an interesting one to see : thankyou.

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Old 15 February 2016, 08:46 AM   #3
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That is a rare Beuty!... It's nice to see things that aren't available for viewing everyday!

Thank you for sharing!
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Old 15 February 2016, 09:41 AM   #4
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Would have liked it even more with big DATE text, but still an interesting one to see : thankyou.

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That is a rare Beuty!... It's nice to see things that aren't available for viewing everyday!

Thank you for sharing!
Thank you both for feedback.
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Old 15 February 2016, 01:22 PM   #5
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Paul there is nothing special about that dial imho. If my memory is correct all of the luminova red service dials are just the white regular service dial with red paint on top of the words. There was a guy a few years ago that was offering this service for $150 I have seen the red service dials from Rolex and also the ones that others painted over and under a loop could not tell as the originals are done the same way imho. I wouldn't pay a premium for a red service dial over a white one my self.
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Old 15 February 2016, 01:40 PM   #6
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If my memory is correct all of the luminova red service dials are just the white regular service dial with red paint on top of the words.
Nikos, from memory I recall Rolex stating only red service dials for replacing red dials received. Meaning even if a watch is serviced that originally had a red dial but no longer has a red dial, Rolex will not put a red service dial on the watch. I figured this was Rolex's way of trying to keep control of service reds.

If Rolex is just painting red paint over a white service dial, it seems this brings business for shady folks to make bucks as it would seem easy to create aftermarket red service dials? Is there any way for someone to distinguish if Rolex or someone else painted in red?
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Old 15 February 2016, 01:42 PM   #7
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Looks like you updated and answered as I was posting. Cheers.
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Old 15 February 2016, 02:45 PM   #8
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Here is the submariner version of it below i found on this site. As you can see the red paint is applied over white and not perfect. It bleeds off of every letter down to the matte black finish.
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Old 15 February 2016, 03:07 PM   #9
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Cool but hard for me to see the value assuming they wanted big money. Thx for sharing.
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Old 15 February 2016, 10:48 PM   #10
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Paul there is nothing special about that dial imho. If my memory is correct all of the luminova red service dials are just the white regular service dial with red paint on top of the words. There was a guy a few years ago that was offering this service for $150 I have seen the red service dials from Rolex and also the ones that others painted over and under a loop could not tell as the originals are done the same way imho. I wouldn't pay a premium for a red service dial over a white one my self.
Okay good to know.

It's interesting because the seller is VERY reputable and the service papers are from RSC, making it original not fake. I think anyone can manipulate any watch, but what makes it unique is it's original from when people were cycling them through RSC and as noted almost all came back white.

Interesting info I found: http://www.redwatches.com/sea_dwelle...249222e5305311

Anyways, good feedback
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Old 15 February 2016, 11:23 PM   #11
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I am not saying its fake I'm saying its a current service dial and IMHO nothing rare about it. The link you shared is of a super rare single red ORIGINAL dial 500m 1650 ft. Your dial says 200ft 610m. The rare to me double red luminova dial for a service dial is the rare one and this did not come in a white configuration to be painted over imho.
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Old 15 February 2016, 11:30 PM   #12
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I am not saying its fake I'm saying its a current service dial and IMHO nothing rare about it. The link you shared is of a super rare single red ORIGINAL dial 500m 1650 ft. Your dial says 200ft 610m. The rare to me double red luminova dial for a service dial is the rare one and this did not come in a white configuration to be painted over imho.
Yep, I can read obviously.

I was just sharing the link as more informational, as many (such as myself), don't know much about how it came about.

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Old 16 February 2016, 03:03 AM   #13
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FYI.
The only dials now available from Rolex (UK) to replace a damaged double red dial in a correct case are luminova with white script.
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Old 17 February 2016, 09:30 PM   #14
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real 500m single-red seadwellers were prototypes (no box or papers) maybe 6 known in the world ... I doubt service dials even exist for these - Rolex museum would want words first surely... here is a real one:

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Old 17 February 2016, 09:37 PM   #15
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^^^ what kind of bracket did that come with?
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Old 17 February 2016, 11:21 PM   #16
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My two cents.
I'm sure it is "rare" in a way, since who in their right mind would change an original DRSD dial to a Service dial?

"Rare" and "wanted" are not necessarily something that goes hand in hand. Take the 168000 as an example.

I would never call a Service dial Rare, as it's something that can be made, hard to say if this is the current service dial or not...?

The watch pictured, should not have a crazy price IMHO, because all that is valuable is taken from it. The insert is brand new, so is the dial (obviously). Impossible to say from the pics, that is it even a genuine DRSD... Checked the caseback? Should have the case serial.
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