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SC11 · 22 August 2017, 08:31 AM

Ignoring the fact I have a 5167a as that may be a short lived family member.

You can tell I'm new to PP as I've only just been made aware the 5712a is priced on par with the 5164a, for some reason I had the 5712 in my mind just under 30k gbp.

I can't see me having more then one PP at a time and feel if I'm to have just one it needs to have a compilation.

So I was originally thinking of flipping the 5167 for the 5164 but now the 5712 has entered the ring.

Thoughts please

nyc2la · 22 August 2017, 08:33 AM

Put the trade on the tape...

martinr · 22 August 2017, 08:39 AM

5164

Sam Philip · 22 August 2017, 10:18 AM

Have you considered the 5990?

mps354 · 22 August 2017, 10:29 AM

I prefer the 5164. Add a 5711 later on

thomaspp · 22 August 2017, 10:36 AM

5164 + 5711 best combo

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kitsgq · 22 August 2017, 10:45 AM

5712.

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GB-man · 22 August 2017, 11:09 AM

As you know I'm quite fond of both sam. I think the 5712 would offer the most variety seeing as you have your 26400 on black rubber.

Then again, you don't like blue dials I thought?

Sometimes best to stick to what you love and if that's a black face and rubber strap then so be it!

AK797 · 22 August 2017, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by nyc2la

Put the trade on the tape...

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Originally Posted by kitsgq

5712.

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Fantastic shots! For me 5712>5164>5711

dmash · 22 August 2017, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thomaspp

5164 + 5711 best combo

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This.

5712 is purely a love or hate type of thing. I personally don't like the dial layout, but can appreciate that others enjoy it. On the other hand, 5164 is a fantastic looking watch to me.

Mikegp · 22 August 2017, 11:46 AM

Between those 2 I'd take 5164, but if it's going to be your ONLY Patek I'd go 5712. I think it's a better representation of the brand.

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alexlt730512 · 22 August 2017, 11:50 AM

I'll go for 5712 if I've to pick one from those two.

ap1 · 22 August 2017, 01:07 PM

12

Grisha40299 · 22 August 2017, 01:15 PM

To me dial of 5712 was more interesting, so that was my choice.

Helmi · 22 August 2017, 01:34 PM

5712...that movement

Abdullasaif · 22 August 2017, 03:03 PM

I had both i enjoyed them equally and sold them both, different watches for the occasion.

tyler1980 · 22 August 2017, 05:09 PM

tough call as the 5164 is much more under the radar where as a Nautilus is not. No one says anything about my 5164 but i have gotten a lot of comments on the 5712 so far. I tend to lean toward being low key as the more positive attribute.

5164 is more practical as far as usefulness where as the 5712 has one of the most unique dials out there. 5712 also wins in the movement comparison.

Considering you would pair it with a ROO on a strap, the 5712 would probably be a better pair.

If i could only have a 1 watch collection though i would pick a 5164 as it covers pretty much everything.

Hramez · 22 August 2017, 09:10 PM

Both are gorgeous, but if it is your first Patek , I will recommend the 5712A , nautilus is my first choice , aquanaut comes as an addition

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kilyung · 23 August 2017, 12:54 AM

I had both. Kept the 5164a.

lapince · 23 August 2017, 04:01 AM

No comparison, I have the RG 5167, and the 5712, 5712 by far for me

SC11 · 23 August 2017, 04:15 AM

Seems to be a split decision!

Luckily I know a UK member who has both so I might try and arrange seeing big side by side (he doesn't know it yet

)

Both are looking to be an ETA of next year so I have a while to decide I really think I might let the 5167a go sooner rather then later as I know it will devalue if marked and currently it's not even been out of the house, shame as I do really want to wear it but I know it's a compromise on what I really want.

On a big plus having the 5167a at home has really allowed me to appricate the brand and it has a wonder delicate finish compared to the modern angular finish to my ROO.

My nature of wear will have the ROO as the top dog on wear but don't think anything can beat a nice PP for the finer moments in life

I can really see my collection evolving to the 116600 as my daily the 44Ti as my weekend warrior maybe with a ROC or 15202st as a companion and a PP for when class is required

It does look good but feel the impression of a bigger case with the 5164's pushers and the 5712 having the bracelet will help the watch flow better with my wrist size.
Plus a PP does need an added compilation..

22 August 2017, 08:31 AM	#1
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	5712a Vs 5164a Ignoring the fact I have a 5167a as that may be a short lived family member. You can tell I'm new to PP as I've only just been made aware the 5712a is priced on par with the 5164a, for some reason I had the 5712 in my mind just under 30k gbp. I can't see me having more then one PP at a time and feel if I'm to have just one it needs to have a compilation. So I was originally thinking of flipping the 5167 for the 5164 but now the 5712 has entered the ring. Thoughts please

22 August 2017, 08:33 AM	#2
nyc2la "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Stephen Location: Beach Watch: 16660 Posts: 9,176	Put the trade on the tape... __________________ "Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm." --- RWE

22 August 2017, 10:36 AM	#6
thomaspp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: N/A Posts: 11,136	5164 + 5711 best combo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Instagram: @watches_anonymous

22 August 2017, 11:09 AM	#8
GB-man 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 36,856	As you know I'm quite fond of both sam. I think the 5712 would offer the most variety seeing as you have your 26400 on black rubber. Then again, you don't like blue dials I thought? Sometimes best to stick to what you love and if that's a black face and rubber strap then so be it! __________________

22 August 2017, 08:39 AM	#3
martinr "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: California Posts: 3,099	5164

22 August 2017, 10:18 AM	#4
Sam Philip Banned Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: UK Posts: 4,345	Have you considered the 5990?

22 August 2017, 10:29 AM	#5
mps354 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: CT Posts: 8,971	I prefer the 5164. Add a 5711 later on

22 August 2017, 10:45 AM	#7
kitsgq "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: US Posts: 403	5712. Sent from my SM-N920W8 using Tapatalk

22 August 2017, 11:46 AM	#11
Mikegp "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Unites States Posts: 790	Between those 2 I'd take 5164, but if it's going to be your ONLY Patek I'd go 5712. I think it's a better representation of the brand. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

22 August 2017, 11:50 AM	#12
alexlt730512 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,245	I'll go for 5712 if I've to pick one from those two.

22 August 2017, 01:07 PM	#13
ap1 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,036	12

22 August 2017, 01:15 PM	#14
Grisha40299 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: US Posts: 219	To me dial of 5712 was more interesting, so that was my choice.

22 August 2017, 01:34 PM	#15
Helmi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Doha Posts: 2,065	5712...that movement

22 August 2017, 03:03 PM	#16
Abdullasaif "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Dubai Watch: bipolar Posts: 2,854	I had both i enjoyed them equally and sold them both, different watches for the occasion.

22 August 2017, 05:09 PM	#17
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	tough call as the 5164 is much more under the radar where as a Nautilus is not. No one says anything about my 5164 but i have gotten a lot of comments on the 5712 so far. I tend to lean toward being low key as the more positive attribute. 5164 is more practical as far as usefulness where as the 5712 has one of the most unique dials out there. 5712 also wins in the movement comparison. Considering you would pair it with a ROO on a strap, the 5712 would probably be a better pair. If i could only have a 1 watch collection though i would pick a 5164 as it covers pretty much everything.

22 August 2017, 09:10 PM	#18
Hramez "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: planet earth Watch: Patek Philippe Posts: 210	Both are gorgeous, but if it is your first Patek , I will recommend the 5712A , nautilus is my first choice , aquanaut comes as an addition Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

23 August 2017, 12:54 AM	#19
kilyung 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Cave Watch: Sundial Posts: 33,870	I had both. Kept the 5164a.

23 August 2017, 04:01 AM	#20
lapince "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Mars Watch: 5712 Posts: 11,509	No comparison, I have the RG 5167, and the 5712, 5712 by far for me

23 August 2017, 04:15 AM	#21
SC11 Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Sam Location: UK Watch: AP ☠️ Posts: 6,151	Seems to be a split decision! Luckily I know a UK member who has both so I might try and arrange seeing big side by side (he doesn't know it yet ) Both are looking to be an ETA of next year so I have a while to decide I really think I might let the 5167a go sooner rather then later as I know it will devalue if marked and currently it's not even been out of the house, shame as I do really want to wear it but I know it's a compromise on what I really want. On a big plus having the 5167a at home has really allowed me to appricate the brand and it has a wonder delicate finish compared to the modern angular finish to my ROO. My nature of wear will have the ROO as the top dog on wear but don't think anything can beat a nice PP for the finer moments in life I can really see my collection evolving to the 116600 as my daily the 44Ti as my weekend warrior maybe with a ROC or 15202st as a companion and a PP for when class is required It does look good but feel the impression of a bigger case with the 5164's pushers and the 5712 having the bracelet will help the watch flow better with my wrist size. Plus a PP does need an added compilation..

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