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Beckertime · 10 October 2014, 01:27 AM

Hello All...I hope everyone is enjoying their week. I m looking for a GENUINE solid 18k rose gold ROLEX buckle. 16mm. I found one on ebay and need your thoughts regarding authenticity. I know the history this seller has with fake buckles...but if it is a legit buckle, thats what matters. The price is not fabulous...but I know I am looking for a needle in a haystack.

The following is the listing:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-18k-RO...item3a93583025

Let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate everyone's thoughts.

AlBacon!974 · 10 October 2014, 02:18 AM

I also bought a YG Rolex buckle from the same seller and was under the impression that it is legit.

But, I also bought this crocodile strap from Beckertime and I wonder if this is legit also?

Any input on both will be helpful.

mdw3 · 10 October 2014, 02:28 AM

No, on the buckles. Same seller has fake gold Oyster band, and had listed fake Paul Newman Daytona for a while, even though advised as such.

crowncollection · 10 October 2014, 05:42 AM

Buckle is fine older style.

mdw3 · 10 October 2014, 02:20 PM

I have never seen those maker's marks on a valid buckle, old or new. And, the crude casting marks underneath are the giveaway of a fraudulent item made by molding a genuine one.

AlBacon!974 · 11 October 2014, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdw3

I have never seen those maker's marks on a valid buckle, old or new. And, the crude casting marks underneath are the giveaway of a fraudulent item made by molding a genuine one.

Getting some conflicting info on authenticity. From my understanding there are different styles with different markings from various decades, does anyone have any pictures to compare them to?

Old Expat Beast · 11 October 2014, 10:18 AM

Is this a serious question? I thought Beckertime was supposed to be able to tell aftermarket from original Rolex parts.

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=95082

Paul · 11 October 2014, 12:24 PM

Call me cynical but when something is described as ....

" Like new, appears never to have been used or worn "

.... that suggests to me that the seller wants to represent it as a new item without actually saying so.

Any later-issue Rolex items I've ever handled have been supplied in a Rolex branded blister pack - a pack that can only be freshly opened once.
At other times, true NOS vintage parts have come to me in waxy Rolex-branded envelopes.

Can I ask how items from this seller arrive - I'm guessing a zip-lock baggie and that doesn't smell like genuine Rolex to me

Paul · 11 October 2014, 12:56 PM

Call me cynical but when something is described as ....

" Like new, appears never to have been used or worn "

.... that says to me that they are wanting to represent it as a new item without actually saying so.

Any newer issue Rolex items I've ever handled have been carefully wrapped in a blister pack - a pack that can only be freshly opened once.
At other times, true NOS vintage parts have come in waxy Rolex-branded envelopes.

Can I ask how items from this seller arrive - I'm guessing a zip-lock baggie and that doesn't smell like genuine Rolex to me

AlBacon!974 · 11 October 2014, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul

Call me cynical but when something is described as ....

" Like new, appears never to have been used or worn "

.... that says to me that they are wanting to represent it as a new item without actually saying so.

Any newer issue Rolex items I've ever handled have been carefully wrapped in a blister pack - a pack that can only be freshly opened once.
At other times, true NOS vintage parts have come in waxy Rolex-branded envelopes.

Can I ask how items from this seller arrive - I'm guessing a zip-lock baggie and that doesn't smell like genuine Rolex to me

It was packed wrapped in bubble wrap in generic watch gift box.

Beckertime · 14 October 2014, 01:48 AM

I never said I can tell the difference of every item Rolex has ever made in the histroy of their company. Your comment is not helpful Old Expat Beast

Beckertime · 14 October 2014, 01:50 AM

This is why I am asking the experts here on TRF. Lets keep this discussion positive. Old Expat Beast, do you think the clasp is real or fake and why? I value your opinion.

Beckertime · 14 October 2014, 01:53 AM

And to be clear, we did not sell the buckle. I am asking as I am looking for a buckle.

Paul · 14 October 2014, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beckertime

And to be clear, we did not sell the buckle. I am asking as I am looking for a buckle.

I'd suggest that the vast majority of buckles on the open market are questionable.
For absolute confidence, I'd go direct to Rolex who can supply

Beckertime · 14 October 2014, 02:55 AM

Thanks Paul

greekbum · 14 October 2014, 03:02 AM

The buckle on ebay is no good. I am 90% sure i have a rose gold buckle in my collection of buckles ill dig out soon.

Beckertime · 14 October 2014, 03:11 AM

I look forward to seeing the pictures.

crowncollection · 14 October 2014, 06:12 PM

Buckles is not never worn you can see it's been polished I know if at least 6 types of stampings on these buckles. Such things were not fussed over and marked that great in the old days

Aquahallic · 16 March 2015, 01:50 PM

Beckertime, did you ever purchase the buckle? If so was it real?

I too am looking for a yellow gold buckle and was thinking of purchasing one from the same seller but some have said it's good while others have said it's not good in this thread.

I never knew purchasing a buckle could be so confusing!

10 October 2014, 01:27 AM	#1
Beckertime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Keller, Texas Posts: 24	Need your thoughts regarding authenticity of a Rolex buckle Hello All...I hope everyone is enjoying their week. I m looking for a GENUINE solid 18k rose gold ROLEX buckle. 16mm. I found one on ebay and need your thoughts regarding authenticity. I know the history this seller has with fake buckles...but if it is a legit buckle, thats what matters. The price is not fabulous...but I know I am looking for a needle in a haystack. The following is the listing: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-18k-RO...item3a93583025 Let me know your thoughts. I would appreciate everyone's thoughts.

10 October 2014, 05:42 AM	#4
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,159	Buckle is fine older style. __________________ watches many

11 October 2014, 12:24 PM	#8
Paul "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,000	Packaging ? Call me cynical but when something is described as .... " Like new, appears never to have been used or worn " .... that suggests to me that the seller wants to represent it as a new item without actually saying so. Any later-issue Rolex items I've ever handled have been supplied in a Rolex branded blister pack - a pack that can only be freshly opened once. At other times, true NOS vintage parts have come to me in waxy Rolex-branded envelopes. Can I ask how items from this seller arrive - I'm guessing a zip-lock baggie and that doesn't smell like genuine Rolex to me

11 October 2014, 12:56 PM	#9
Paul "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,000	Packaging ? Call me cynical but when something is described as .... " Like new, appears never to have been used or worn " .... that says to me that they are wanting to represent it as a new item without actually saying so. Any newer issue Rolex items I've ever handled have been carefully wrapped in a blister pack - a pack that can only be freshly opened once. At other times, true NOS vintage parts have come in waxy Rolex-branded envelopes. Can I ask how items from this seller arrive - I'm guessing a zip-lock baggie and that doesn't smell like genuine Rolex to me

14 October 2014, 03:02 AM	#16
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,415	The buckle on ebay is no good. I am 90% sure i have a rose gold buckle in my collection of buckles ill dig out soon. __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

10 October 2014, 02:18 AM	#2
AlBacon!974 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Real Name: Nunyo Location: Texas Watch: 1803 Day-Date Posts: 427	I also bought a YG Rolex buckle from the same seller and was under the impression that it is legit. But, I also bought this crocodile strap from Beckertime and I wonder if this is legit also? Any input on both will be helpful.

10 October 2014, 02:28 AM	#3
mdw3 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 677	No, on the buckles. Same seller has fake gold Oyster band, and had listed fake Paul Newman Daytona for a while, even though advised as such.

10 October 2014, 02:20 PM	#5
mdw3 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 677	I have never seen those maker's marks on a valid buckle, old or new. And, the crude casting marks underneath are the giveaway of a fraudulent item made by molding a genuine one.

11 October 2014, 10:18 AM	#7
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Hong Kong Watch: SEIKO Posts: 28,399	Is this a serious question? I thought Beckertime was supposed to be able to tell aftermarket from original Rolex parts. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=95082

14 October 2014, 01:48 AM	#11
Beckertime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Keller, Texas Posts: 24	I never said I can tell the difference of every item Rolex has ever made in the histroy of their company. Your comment is not helpful Old Expat Beast

14 October 2014, 01:50 AM	#12
Beckertime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Keller, Texas Posts: 24	This is why I am asking the experts here on TRF. Lets keep this discussion positive. Old Expat Beast, do you think the clasp is real or fake and why? I value your opinion.

14 October 2014, 01:53 AM	#13
Beckertime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Keller, Texas Posts: 24	And to be clear, we did not sell the buckle. I am asking as I am looking for a buckle.

14 October 2014, 02:55 AM	#15
Beckertime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Keller, Texas Posts: 24	Thanks Paul

14 October 2014, 03:11 AM	#17
Beckertime "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Matt Location: Keller, Texas Posts: 24	I look forward to seeing the pictures.

14 October 2014, 06:12 PM	#18
crowncollection "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Real Name: David Location: australia Posts: 20,159	Buckles is not never worn you can see it's been polished I know if at least 6 types of stampings on these buckles. Such things were not fussed over and marked that great in the old days __________________ watches many

16 March 2015, 01:50 PM	#19
Aquahallic "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: ☀️FL Posts: 72	Beckertime, did you ever purchase the buckle? If so was it real? I too am looking for a yellow gold buckle and was thinking of purchasing one from the same seller but some have said it's good while others have said it's not good in this thread. I never knew purchasing a buckle could be so confusing!

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