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Old 21 November 2015, 06:44 PM   #31
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So, for the purposes of newbie outsiders like myself, there was a dial restorer or restorers who recreated 369 dials. These were made innocently to recreate the rare look. Some naughty people decided to sell them on as real. How many were real? It seems that over time they appeared all of a sudden and then.......
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Old 22 November 2015, 12:58 AM   #32
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So, for the purposes of newbie outsiders like myself, there was a dial restorer or restorers who recreated 369 dials. These were made innocently to recreate the rare look. Some naughty people decided to sell them on as real. How many were real? It seems that over time they appeared all of a sudden and then.......

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Mikes in the OP is 100% correct and mine further down is also correct hopefully the pics will help you understand .

How many 369s are there ?. I think Haywoods post on the link will give you a idea when he said it would possibly make a mil sub look reasonable.

What Mike didn't say in the OP was he had all the paperwork and the original invoice for his uncles old watch, It was invoiced at £64.50 in 1964 , His uncle being a shrewd negotiator negotiated a 10 shillings discount , So £64 in 1964 , The post is closed but I'm sure Mike won't mind me elaborating , He thought it was only worth around £500gbp it was kept on his mantle piece for 19 years, The best offer he received by PM was $200k , Did he sell it ? . I can't say , But know he met a guy on his way back from the 1st Phillips auction in May. As he travelled back from Switzerland .
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Old 22 November 2015, 01:05 AM   #33
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Jed, I know the dial maker, I hear what you are saying about inspecting in person and not judging based on 2d pics but I have a lot of experience and can help ppl. Any redials being done after those pics were released now have "encan restore" engraved on the back of the dial plates (so ppl know it's a redial). I happen to know that those dials (3-6-9 dbl t<25) were never updated so one made today would still have the same tells and it would have the new engraving on the back. I can tell in 2d that the dial in question is good, unequivocally. The dial maker no matter what ppl want to believe is not trying to fool anyone, unfortunately there are those out there that are.
Would love to know the name of this dial maker...
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Old 22 November 2015, 01:36 AM   #34
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His name isn't the point of this thread, Philipp stated that the dial is fake but it isn't so I wonder what he saw or why he thinks that. The Comex On the other hand might be fake but I'm not an expert on them so I can't say.
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Old 22 November 2015, 01:47 AM   #35
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369 went for £90000 + premium
mil subs and comex didn't sell
think the comex might have been withdrawn can't be sure
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Old 22 November 2015, 01:56 AM   #36
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At least two watches were withdrawn from the sale, but there can be any number of reasons why this happens.

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