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southtexas · 29 July 2016, 07:47 AM

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-Vint...%257Ciid%253A2

Thought this was a cool find. It's a 3 mil red serial sub (unfortunately with white service dial). Comes with papers, he purchased it as a cadet.

I'm not sure the premium resulting from its "celebrity" status will be realized??

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marcusjcw21 · 29 July 2016, 07:52 AM

That is a very cool find!

JustinK · 29 July 2016, 08:20 AM

Cool piece of history if it was really his. I think all the replacement parts and polishing diminish its value greatly. Probably worth less than 6K without his name attached.

It would still be cool to own.

Paul_I · 29 July 2016, 10:33 AM

I'll sell you a Seamaster owned by a Navy JAG if you got the cash ....

rebel_1 · 29 July 2016, 10:58 AM

I'm friends with his brother-in-law. I just forwarded him the listing. I'll let you know what he says.

77T · 29 July 2016, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rebel_1

I'm friends with his brother-in-law. I just forwarded him the listing. I'll let you know what he says.

That's a good idea to validate this auction. I did the same a while back for a driver who had won the 24 Hours of Daytona and had his winning watch on eBay.

BTW, IMHO the price isn't really supported for future value unless the General writes something meaningful as part of the provenance. Just saying I owned this Sub might work for some, but saying I wore this during xxx missions, etc. makes a huge difference.

Consider General Patton's Tiffany & Co Patek Phillippe...

https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/Ge...Patek-Philippe

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And the accompanying story makes it all the more special...

rebel_1 · 29 July 2016, 11:05 PM

Interesting article. Thanks for the link.

linesiders · 29 July 2016, 11:12 PM

Pretty cool, with confirmation

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Originally Posted by Paul_I

I'll sell you a Seamaster owned by a Navy JAG if you got the cash ....

Does that make a $4,000 Seamaster worth $3,000?

Can you provide provenance? "Watch was worn during Fat Leonard investigation"

Stuntpilot · 29 July 2016, 11:57 PM

Awesome!!!

Etschell · 30 July 2016, 04:19 AM

looks like he wore it in battle. that said i cant justify the price. 20k for something worth 3-4 times less.

Sunny Arizona · 30 July 2016, 02:33 PM

Good Division Commander of 101 during OIF1.

BNA/LION · 30 July 2016, 02:47 PM

Interesting... Bidding could get CrAzY.

Runnin' Rebel · 31 July 2016, 08:05 PM

Oh yes.!!

Imagine all the paper work if he has it ? Name on the warranty etc.. And pictures of him with it while in meetings or with the troops. the provenance, stories.

I didn't click the link but wow

tomilg · 2 August 2016, 12:26 AM

Is this a silly question......Is it still a "Red Sub" if it no longer has the original Red Sub Dial, but now sports a white service dial replacement?

Wouldn't this be the same as purchasing a vintage Corvette that was white in color, but the Ser# or build sheet indicates that it came from the factory with red paint. At the end of the day, your still just buying a white Corvette.

southtexas · 2 August 2016, 04:52 AM

It is no longer a "red sub" without that which makes it rare and (more) valuable and, well, red.

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linesiders · 2 August 2016, 05:15 AM

Agree, the value is a 70s sub with service parts - plus - value added by the original owner rather than a 70s RED sub with original vintage parts - plus - value added by the original owner

29 July 2016, 07:47 AM	#1
southtexas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,684	Gen. David Patraeus 1680 on ebay http://m.ebay.com/itm/Excellent-Vint...%257Ciid%253A2 Thought this was a cool find. It's a 3 mil red serial sub (unfortunately with white service dial). Comes with papers, he purchased it as a cadet. I'm not sure the premium resulting from its "celebrity" status will be realized?? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

29 July 2016, 10:33 AM	#4
Paul_I "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,448	I'll sell you a Seamaster owned by a Navy JAG if you got the cash .... __________________

29 July 2016, 10:58 AM	#5
rebel_1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,132	I'm friends with his brother-in-law. I just forwarded him the listing. I'll let you know what he says. __________________ Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017

29 July 2016, 11:05 PM	#7
rebel_1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,132	Interesting article. Thanks for the link. __________________ Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017

30 July 2016, 04:19 AM	#10
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	looks like he wore it in battle. that said i cant justify the price. 20k for something worth 3-4 times less. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

29 July 2016, 07:52 AM	#2
marcusjcw21 Banned Join Date: Jul 2016 Real Name: Marcus Location: Buffalo, NY Watch: Rolex 2 tone 1005 Posts: 351	That is a very cool find!

29 July 2016, 08:20 AM	#3
JustinK 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Real Name: Justin Location: Jupiter, FL Watch: 1530,1665,1680 Posts: 2,054	Cool piece of history if it was really his. I think all the replacement parts and polishing diminish its value greatly. Probably worth less than 6K without his name attached. It would still be cool to own.

29 July 2016, 11:57 PM	#9
Stuntpilot Banned Join Date: May 2015 Location: MS Posts: 373	Awesome!!!

30 July 2016, 02:33 PM	#11
Sunny Arizona "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Brad Location: Colorado Watch: 16613 Posts: 1,255	Good Division Commander of 101 during OIF1.

30 July 2016, 02:47 PM	#12
BNA/LION 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Real Name: Larry Location: San Diego, CA Watch: ROLEX Posts: 25,206	Interesting... Bidding could get CrAzY. __________________ ✦ 28238 President DD 18K/YG ✦ 16610LN SS Sub ✦ 16613 18K/SS Serti ✦ 16550 Exp II Non-Rail Cream Dial ✦ Daytona C 116500 ✦ 126710 BLRO GMT-Master II ✦ NEXT-->? ⛳ Hole In One! 10/3/19 DMCC 5th hole, par 3, 168 yards w/ 4-Iron.

31 July 2016, 08:05 PM	#13
Runnin' Rebel "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: Mark Location: 🤔 Posts: 8,424	Oh yes.!! Imagine all the paper work if he has it ? Name on the warranty etc.. And pictures of him with it while in meetings or with the troops. the provenance, stories. I didn't click the link but wow __________________ ♛

2 August 2016, 12:26 AM	#14
tomilg "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Tom Location: Sarasota, FL Watch: 5513, SD4K Posts: 462	Is this a silly question......Is it still a "Red Sub" if it no longer has the original Red Sub Dial, but now sports a white service dial replacement? Wouldn't this be the same as purchasing a vintage Corvette that was white in color, but the Ser# or build sheet indicates that it came from the factory with red paint. At the end of the day, your still just buying a white Corvette.

2 August 2016, 04:52 AM	#15
southtexas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Great State of TX Posts: 5,684	Gen. David Patraeus 1680 on ebay It is no longer a "red sub" without that which makes it rare and (more) valuable and, well, red. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Forty six & 2 are just ahead of me. Follow me on Instagram @ccrolex

2 August 2016, 05:15 AM	#16
linesiders 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: RedSox Nation Watch: U Talkn Bout Wilis Posts: 5,425	Agree, the value is a 70s sub with service parts - plus - value added by the original owner rather than a 70s RED sub with original vintage parts - plus - value added by the original owner __________________ I'm a sailor peg. And I've lost my leg. Climbing up the top sails. I've lost my leg!

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