Vintage rivet bracelet help needed

[The moose]

I am currently looking at a vintage DJ that have a folded riveted bracelet with 258 end links (20mm). Something seems off about the bracelet and the end links. Can it be that the Watch has been fitted with a 19mm riveted bracelet that someone put 20mm end links on?
Here are some detailed pics so you see for yourself and maybe help me out:

[Kingface66]

Yup, it had end links fitted to it afterward. That's a C&I American-made bracelet, which originally came with un-stamped end links.

[The moose]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

Yup, it had end links fitted to it afterward. That's a C&I American-made bracelet, which originally came with un-stamped end links.

I see. Would you say that the bracelet is a 19mm one or a 20mm one?

[Richard Carver]

Not exactly relevant to your main question of bracelet size but interesting general info (stolen from VRF)

258 are for smaller cases like a 36 mm datejust on a folded band. In fact it is simple:

- rivetted swiss bands always had 2 digit bands, mostly 80 and 58
- folded bands had always 3 digits, 280/380 and 258
- solid bands also always have 3 digits, for example 580 and 558

The 40 mm cases use the 80 variants, the 36 mm the 58.
(there are many more numbers, but these are most common)

[Kingface66]

Originally Posted by The moose

I see. Would you say that the bracelet is a 19mm one or a 20mm one?

From how your bracelet lines up against the end links, it appears to be 19mm. A 20mm should be as wide at its end where it meets the end link.

Here's my 1966 20mm C&I bracelet w the end links it came with (currently on one of my Subs)

And a 7836 bracelet (20mm) with 258 end links, for a GMT

[The moose]

Originally Posted by Kingface66

From how your bracelet lines up against the end links, it appears to be 19mm. A 20mm should be as wide at its end where it meets the end link.

Here's my 1966 20mm C&I bracelet w the end links it came with (currently on one of my Subs)

And a 7836 bracelet (20mm) with 258 end links, for a GMT

Perfect! Exactly what I needed, now it seems really clear that it is a 19mm bracelet! Highly appreciated input!!

[springer]

Originally Posted by Richard Carver

Not exactly relevant to your main question of bracelet size but interesting general info (stolen from VRF)

258 are for smaller cases like a 36 mm datejust on a folded band. In fact it is simple:

- rivetted swiss bands always had 2 digit bands, mostly 80 and 58
- folded bands had always 3 digits, 280/380 and 258
- solid bands also always have 3 digits, for example 580 and 558

The 40 mm cases use the 80 variants, the 36 mm the 58.
(there are many more numbers, but these are most common)

Number 58 end links were found on the vintage 40mm GMT. Submariners used the 80 end links. Are they interchangeable - it is fairly common to see them on other watches whether original or not.

[crowncollection]

Looks like a 19mm band


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[The moose]

Originally Posted by crowncollection

Looks like a 19mm band


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Thanks!