Upset About the New Pepsi

[Runnin' Rebel]

I sell my only child if the coke comes out in platinum

[normandy]

my buddy always say: you've gotta pay to play

[time2see]

Nice vintage. Great picture.

Originally Posted by cdnwatchguy

I don't need a white gold ceramic bezel one. I have this.

[cinch]

It's funny I never fancied a Pepsi gmt, since all the talk and pics of the new one it's really drawn me to this watch. I've got a 16700 coming in today and I can't wait!!
I'm happy!

[Singslinger]

Actually, although I would have loved a steel Pepsi GMT in ceramic, I'm relieved because it means I'm not faced with a dilemma of whether to buy one outright or flip my black ceramic (and take a loss).

[lmcgbaj]

[Furbo]

I could not care less about WG pepsi since they made much nicer BLNR in steel. :P

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by lmcgbaj

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

I was hoping Rolex would remake the pepsi with a ceramic bezel and new bracelet, but they've also decided to make it in white gold!

There's no way I will be able to reasonably afford one. Well, at least I scored four touchdowns in a single game once.

Anyone else as frustrated as I am?

Gonna have to sell a whole lot of shoes to buy the new Pepsi Mr. Bundy...

[Snow-Dweller]

Originally Posted by furbo

i could not care less about wg pepsi since they made much nicer blnr in steel. :p

x2

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

The Pepsi will be available in steel eventually.

There really is no reason that it shouldn't, as Rolex would be missing out on a huge market.

It is after all a tool watch and it deserves to made of a material that lends itself to that purpose.

Originally Posted by cmkooi

You couldn't be more wrong... on all points. Rolex will never make a white gold model or its colors in steel.

Surely, you must have some precedent upon you which you base your position.

I, personally, would point to the YMII as a good precedent for the course Rolex has planned for the BLRO, as Rolex recoups their R&D money from all the time and effort they put into creating the bezel.

Furthermore, how can anyone say that anyone else is wrong, as none of us know for sure what will happen. We simply have opinions based on our previous observations of how Rolex operates?

[AK797]

Originally Posted by lmcgbaj

Its not a case of cannot, I can, it is will not as this is a fun watch and thus better suited to steel imho.

[michel33]

I prefer the BLNR insert for the new Gmt Ceramic, because I think it is both sporty and sober, and I have a bunch of aluminum Pepsi inserts with superb colors that a Ceramic insert will never feature.
So I'm not upset, but to each his own.

[HL65]

Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

Surely, you must have some precedent upon you which you base your position.

I, personally, would point to the YMII as a good precedent for the course Rolex has planned for the BLRO, as Rolex recoups their R&D money from all the time and effort they put into creating the bezel.

Furthermore, how can anyone say that anyone else is wrong, as none of us know for sure what will happen. We simply have opinions based on our previous observations of how Rolex operates?

Poor example Grady--sorry. The KEY DIFFERENTIATING factor between the YMII in WG and SS is the bezel. The KEY DIFFERENTIATING factor between the WG GMT and the SS GMT's are the bezels. It isn't gonna happen and again that ship has sailed---and rightfully so. Sorry but time for people who love new GMT's to embrace the black or the BLNR bezel as the BLRO is and will always be reserved for WG.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by JAGERVEGAS

I sell my only child if the coke comes out in platinum

How much?

[SaddleSC]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Poor example Grady--sorry. The KEY DIFFERENTIATING factor between the YMII in WG and SS is the bezel. The KEY DIFFERENTIATING factor between the WG GMT and the SS GMT's are the bezels. It isn't gonna happen and again that ship has sailed---and rightfully so. Sorry but time for people who love new GMT's to embrace the black or the BLNR bezel as the BLRO is and will always be reserved for WG.

x100

The term I have been using to explain this to people is "visually distinct". Rolex will never make a model in both SS and WG that are not visually distinct from one another. The SS YMII and the WG YMII look completely different by using different bezel inserts, sub dials and index colors.

A SS BLRO would be visually identical to the WG version and therefore will NEVER happen.

[mikkemus23]

In all respect I'm going to say it like Eddie Murphy (pun intended) tongue in cheek no offence

[stockae92]

Originally Posted by Al Bundy

I was hoping Rolex would remake the pepsi with a ceramic bezel and new bracelet, but they've also decided to make it in white gold!

There's no way I will be able to reasonably afford one. Well, at least I scored four touchdowns in a single game once.

Anyone else as frustrated as I am?

Wait, let me get this straight.

You are upset about Rolex's business decision because you don't make enough money to afford the new pepsi GMTc in white gold?

Oh boy I am agree, and I am upset about Ferrari, Lambo, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia ...

[kegan]

Originally Posted by stockae92

Wait, let me get this straight.

You are upset about Rolex's business decision because you don't make enough money to afford the new pepsi GMTc in white gold?

Oh boy I am agree, and I am upset about Ferrari, Lambo, Nissan, Hyundai, Kia ...

Being able to afford it or not has nothing to do with why the white gold gmt
Has caused all this debate. I think this is possibly one of the most radical
Decisions rolex has ever made. The only thing they could do that would
Even compare to this would be if the submariner (no date) was only
Available in white gold when it was upgraded to ceramic

Customers who were interested in the classic gmt master (blue/red), which
Was continuously available for over 50 years, for the most part were not
The sort that would buy a gold watch. To use your example they basically
Changed a Jeep into a Farrari. This has been going on for a long time
Though...lets face it the price of a stainless steel gmt nearly tripled if
You look back ten years from the introduction of the ceramic bezel. This alone has excluded most reasonable thinking people.

Personally I dont care as I am only interested in vintage sports models now however I totally understand how the new version of the iconic blue red has caused dissapointment for those who were looking forward to it. For
me the further rolex gets away from the day when a young serviceman
could drop two weeks pay at the px and walk out with a sub or gmt that would
end up being passed down to who knows how many generations the less interesting these watches become

[landroverking]

Originally Posted by kegan

Being able to afford it or not has nothing to do with why the white gold gmt
Has caused all this debate. I think this is possibly one of the most radical
Decisions rolex has ever made. The only thing they could do that would
Even compare to this would be if the submariner (no date) was only
Available in white gold when it was upgraded to ceramic

Customers who were interested in the classic gmt master (blue/red), which
Was continuously available for over 50 years, for the most part were not
The sort that would buy a gold watch. To use your example they basically
Changed a Jeep into a Farrari. This has been going on for a long time
Though...lets face it the price of a stainless steel gmt nearly tripled if
You look back ten years from the introduction of the ceramic bezel. This alone has excluded most reasonable thinking people.

Personally I dont care as I am only interested in vintage sports models now however I totally understand how the new version of the iconic blue red has caused dissapointment for those who were looking forward to it. For
me the further rolex gets away from the day when a young serviceman
could drop two weeks pay at the px and walk out with a sub or gmt that would
end up being passed down to who knows how many generations the less interesting these watches become

If you want a classic go vintage not modern.
Rolex making a WG Pepsi GMT is good for business just like making any sport/tool watch in gold.

Time to move on here folks....nothing going to change to make everyone happy.

[rolexnub]

Which one? The Pepsi Next?

[Racerdj]

My prediction, Rolex will sell all that they produce and will be scarce.

[alanc]

Originally Posted by kegan

Being able to afford it or not has nothing to do with why the white gold gmt
Has caused all this debate. I think this is possibly one of the most radical
Decisions rolex has ever made. The only thing they could do that would
Even compare to this would be if the submariner (no date) was only
Available in white gold when it was upgraded to ceramic

Customers who were interested in the classic gmt master (blue/red), which
Was continuously available for over 50 years, for the most part were not
The sort that would buy a gold watch. To use your example they basically
Changed a Jeep into a Farrari. This has been going on for a long time
Though...lets face it the price of a stainless steel gmt nearly tripled if
You look back ten years from the introduction of the ceramic bezel. This alone has excluded most reasonable thinking people.

Personally I dont care as I am only interested in vintage sports models now however I totally understand how the new version of the iconic blue red has caused dissapointment for those who were looking forward to it. For
me the further rolex gets away from the day when a young serviceman
could drop two weeks pay at the px and walk out with a sub or gmt that would
end up being passed down to who knows how many generations the less interesting these watches become

Well said!

[ufboy73]

Originally Posted by kegan

The only thing they could do that would
Even compare to this would be if the submariner (no date) was only
Available in white gold when it was upgraded to ceramic

not really a good example, as there would be NO variant of a SS no-date sub in your scenario.

there are, in fact, TWO variants of GMT-C currently available in SS - so, its not as if those that like the model are being disenfranchised.

sure, those that may have wanted a SS GMT-C in Pepsi and do not want WG are left out in the cold...but i assume they have been boycotting rolex for the last several years, as Rolex was not ever providing them with a SS GMT-C in pepsi, right?

thats the part i dont understand with all the expressed displeasure..Rolex didnt owe them ANY GMT-C pepsi...now, at least, there is one.

[michel33]

Originally Posted by ufboy73
not really a good example, as there would be NO variant of a SS no-date sub in your scenario.



Let's say Rolex issued the Submariner ceramic LV for the steel variant and the classic black one only in a white gold.
How would the Rolex Submariner's fans have reacted? I guess they would all and endure sleepless nights. :


Originally Posted by ufboy73
Sure, those that may have wanted a SS GMT-C in Pepsi and do not want WG are left out in the cold...but i assume they have been boycotting rolex for the last several years, as Rolex was not ever providing them with a SS GMT-C in pepsi, right


You're right, they were waiting for the stainless steel version.


[U]Originally Posted by ufboy73[/U]
thats the part i dont understand with all the expressed displeasure..Rolex didnt owe them ANY GMT-C pepsi...now, at least, there is one.



Right, Rolex does not owe its fans anything. But if some (most?) of them feel they have been "betrayed", they can express their disappointment nonetheless. (And I'm not one of them, as stated above).

[FeelingTheBlues]

Personally I'm not upset, I quite like the look of it and the fact that it's made in white gold. Besides, if I wanted a Pepsi I'd go the vintage route myself.

[QueueCumber]

Originally Posted by FeelingTheBlues

Personally I'm not upset, I quite like the look of it and the fact that it's made in white gold. Besides, if I wanted a Pepsi I'd go the vintage route myself.

This is a good point. There are plenty of them out there to be had.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Poor example Grady--sorry. The KEY DIFFERENTIATING factor between the YMII in WG and SS is the bezel. The KEY DIFFERENTIATING factor between the WG GMT and the SS GMT's are the bezels. It isn't gonna happen and again that ship has sailed---and rightfully so. Sorry but time for people who love new GMT's to embrace the black or the BLNR bezel as the BLRO is and will always be reserved for WG.

Your prediction that the Sea Dweller would emerge this year puts me in a difficult position to question your sagacity, but I'm still waiting for someone, anyone, to tell me why it will not happen that Rolex will never introduce a steel GMTIIc BLNR. Hasn't Rolex offered multiple GMT steel models before?

You say that ship has sailed, but didn't a lot of people say that we'd never see another 40mm Sea Dweller again and that that ship had sailed?

I'm pretty sure I remember those exact words.

Anyway, everyone's entitled to his own opinion and I'll keep waiting for the steel BLNR.

[GradyPhilpott]

Originally Posted by SaddleSC

The term I have been using to explain this to people is "visually distinct". Rolex will never make a model in both SS and WG that are not visually distinct from one another.

Put this way, I do concede that this is a compelling argument.

[azguy]

Al rocks