The Voutilainen journey

[subtona]

For me blue is always a fine choice and less is more if there is doubt about options..


strikes me as a bit of a paradox to choose WG, for a custom piece when your intent was PT?
i don't believe i would make the concession simply on price, would a less detailed engraving option be a way to keep the PT?

what also struck me is this incoming may potentially beat the record holder for the previous longest incoming … i forget who held the title

congrats on the journey

[lapince]

Originally Posted by subtona

For me blue is always a fine choice and less is more if there is doubt about options..


strikes me as a bit of a paradox to choose WG, for a custom piece when your intent was PT? i don't believe i would make the concession simply on price? would a less detailed engraving option be a way to keep the PT?

what also struck me is this incoming may potentially beat the record holder for the previous longest incoming … i forget who held the title

congrats on the journey

You would choose PT if the difference between WG and PT was more than 40K? I got an exceptional price because he had a case with officers caseback ready, whereas in PT he needed to make it, hence 40+K more, WG is fine for me, I think you understand better now before I decided to go all in and was just getting the watch with customization of the dial but no officers case back and hand engraving, yes I was going PT, the difference is too small to take WG IMO, far from being the case now...

[subtona]

Originally Posted by lapince

You would choose PT if the difference between WG and PT was more than 40K? I got an exceptional price because he had a case with officers caseback ready, whereas in PT he needed to make it, hence 40+K more, WG is fine for me, I think you understand better now before I decided to go all in and was just getting the watch with customization of the dial but no officers case back and hand engraving, yes I was going PT, the difference is too small to take WG IMO, far from being the case now...

yes, i would choose PT if that is what i wanted.

i understood the engraving of the platinum was driving the price?

[lapince]

Originally Posted by subtona

yes, i would choose PT if that is what i wanted.

i understood the engraving of the platinum was driving the price?

No, the exact same watch as I want it if to take PT is 40+K more, as I said he had a ready WG case and because of this I got a great price.

I wanted PT when the idea was the simple Vingt-8, no caseback, no engraving, I can't justify or afford to put 40+K just to have PT instead of WG, this is way and beyond my limits

[lapince]

I prefer making a concession on the PT rather than what you suggested, making a less detailed ingraving, but between the same watch with the platinum one costing 40K more than the WG, is a total no brainer for me

[asadtiger]

I suggest put it like it is the picture...on the lid outside next to engraving...while I am normally conservative, in this case it is a very important and beautiful fact that shouldn't be relegated to an invisible corner ...lovely watches Karl and Angus..so cool.

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[fmc000]

Originally Posted by lapince

I prefer making a concession on the PT rather than what you suggested, making a less detailed ingraving, but between the same watch with the platinum one costing 40K more than the WG, is a total no brainer for me

[texex91]

Karl did you go PT? Please say yes.

If it were me and I'm having a watch made, I'd design it the way I want.

I would not settle to save a few thousand here or there--get the perfect watch period, knowing I'd be keeping it forever.

I agree, PT is the way to go on something like this for me.

Nipples look better in platinum, IMHO.

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by texex91

Karl did you go PT? Please say yes.

If it were me and I'm having a watch made, I'd design it the way I want.

I would not settle to save a few thousand here or there--get the perfect watch period, knowing I'd be keeping it forever.

I agree, PT is the way to go on something like this for me.

Nipples look better in platinum, IMHO.

Yip. PT and I suggested to Kari that Arnaud specially asked me to convey his thoughts on 2 topless, Viking,female warriors straddling a stripper pole surrounded by adoring nymphets! He appeared surprised at 2?

[KarlS]

Forgot I added Power Reserve....he couldn't attach Fitbit so guess we just stick to thatt!!

[texex91]

Originally Posted by KarlS

Yip. PT and I suggested to Kari that Arnaud specially asked me to convey his thoughts on 2 topless, Viking,female warriors straddling a stripper pole surrounded by adoring nymphets! He appeared surprised at 2?

on PT selection.

I do look forward to your choice of caseback.

I assume the more women the higher the price? Will be worth every penny

[KarlS]

Originally Posted by texex91

on PT selection.

I do look forward to your choice of caseback.

I assume the more women the higher the price? Will be worth every penny

No caseback for me!! I want to see my movement ...in the horological sense of course!!

[texex91]

Originally Posted by KarlS

No caseback for me!! I want to see my movement ...in the horological sense of course!!

SMART! MUCH better idea.

Clear back w/ case in PT = perfect.

Naked ladies on case backs so yesterday anyways

[lapince]

Originally Posted by texex91

Karl did you go PT? Please say yes.

If it were me and I'm having a watch made, I'd design it the way I want.

I would not settle to save a few thousand here or there--get the perfect watch period, knowing I'd be keeping it forever.

I agree, PT is the way to go on something like this for me.

Nipples look better in platinum, IMHO.

Crap, I just wrote a few lines which disappeared if in PT you enter a whole new ball game, the one in which plays 5270 and other heavyweights, and this is way out of my comfort zone, already wondering if I will be comfortable wearing this one in the street.
The deal I am getting is a great one, if getting it in PT was 15K more, in worse case 20, probably would do it, but not for more than 40.

Originally Posted by KarlS

Yip. PT and I suggested to Kari that Arnaud specially asked me to convey his thoughts on 2 topless, Viking,female warriors straddling a stripper pole surrounded by adoring nymphets! He appeared surprised at 2?

Originally Posted by KarlS

Forgot I added Power Reserve....he couldn't attach Fitbit so guess we just stick to thatt!!

PR is awesome, it's gonna be great

Originally Posted by texex91

SMART! MUCH better idea.

Clear back in PT = perfect.

Naked ladies on case backs so yesterday anyways

Lol, at first my order was clear back in PT, then I thought that a sexy engraved case back on top would just be perfect, I know I'm an old school guy, but for me the engraved caseback is 50% what makes the watch so unique, always found them to be one of the nicest thing ever on a watch

[texex91]

Originally Posted by lapince

I'm an old school guy, but for me the engraved caseback is 50% what makes the watch so unique, always found them to be one of the nicest thing ever on a watch

Well that's the great part, you can design exactly how you want.

For me, I'd have to see the movement--that's half the fun

[PJ S]

Originally Posted by lapince

If you have some ideas for the engraving I would love to hear them.
The idea is one or a few warrior women, of course beautiful ones, so either 1-2, either like on the engraving here, need to lnow which pluses and minuses each possibility has, plus some things like what is in the center here, and other elements, Kari and the engraver will help put my ideas on paper and how to make the end result the most perfect possible, will take into consideration your ideas.

Originally Posted by lapince

Need you guys' help.

Would you want the "unique piece" to be discreetly engraved on the back of the case, or like on this one to be part of the engraved caseback?

On this I haven't decided yet, on this caseback it looks awesome, do you think it would look as good on the type of caseback mine will have?

What’s with the fascination with softcore porn? Leave that sort of crap to Invicta, and others!
And if those faces are the best that Kari’s engraver can manage, then I’d seriously urge you to forget about the Officer’s Back altogether.
I read something about Viking women – are you a descendant of Viking origin?

Dial side looks beautifully expensive, then you flip it over it – and it looks tacky and cheap.
Stick with the display case back only, assuming you don’t have a family coat of arms to have engraved instead.
Moreover, by dispensing with the engraved back, does that make going for a regular Platinum case a viable option?

[lapince]

Originally Posted by PJ S

What’s with the fascination with softcore porn? Leave that sort of crap to Invicta, and others!
And if those faces are the best that Kari’s engraver can manage, then I’d seriously urge you to forget about the Officer’s Back altogether.
I read something about Viking women – are you a descendant of Viking origin?

Dial side looks beautifully expensive, then you flip it over it – and it looks tacky and cheap.
Stick with the display case back only, assuming you don’t have a family coat of arms to have engraved instead.
Moreover, by dispensing with the engraved back, does that make going for a regular Platinum case a viable option?

Of course, without the engraving and caseback we are back to what was my first order.
You know that many high end horology brands have a history of soft porn, either with engraved case backs, either with a moving scene.
I love the type of engraving I posted, but mine will be of 1 female warrior, and not viking, greek-roman style.
I thought about putting our coat of arms, but decided not to, though think will put the family devise "ferrum ferro, ferro feror" I carry steel, steel carries me...
These are their coat of arms, the thought did go through my head, but this is on my mothers side, and in France aristocratic title and right to bear arms, coat of, are passed on only by men, not women, if women could do it, I would be a marquis, not joking... For those who like History, my family is Montalembert d'Esse, you wouldn't imagine what kind of ancestors I have, a Paris street is named in honor of one of them, but it's the aristocracy which lost everything, until 1960 they had many properties and castles, now nothing left, the castle in which my mother was born now belongs to a communist run commune near Paris

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[KarlS]

PJS...if I read between the lines u don't seem to be a fan of the caseback????

Now KV may not wear a Datograph but he wears this

[lapince]

Originally Posted by texex91

Well that's the great part, you can design exactly how you want.

For me, I'd have to see the movement--that's half the fun

Paul, on mine too you see the movement, after you open the caseback

Yes Karl, PJ isn't fan of the caseback whereas I love it, I will not even budge on this, always wanted one

Well I certainly prefer the watch Kari wears, congrats on the PR.
Maybe you should as well make your own thread about your journey.

What colors did you choose, blue or blue and grey?

[texex91]

Originally Posted by lapince

Paul, on mine too you see the movement, after you open the caseback

Understand, agree with PJ on skipping all together and letting movement shine 100% of the time.

Sounds like part of getting the 'great deal' was taking the case back that he already has made? I'm assuming you could change it before he makes the watch???

You asked for feedback, so we all are just talking--no right or wrong.

It's your watch

[KarlS]

My thread has no porn sadly although Sven Andersen is an interesting watchmaker...I only have all those boring details like how often do you service, service times, guarantee periods, what happens when you die blah blah blah

[lapince]

Originally Posted by texex91

Understand, agree with PJ on skipping all together and letting movement shine 100% of the time.

Sounds like part of getting the 'great deal' was taking the case back that he already has made? I'm assuming you could change it before he makes the watch???

You asked for feedback, so we all are just talking--no right or wrong.

It's your watch

Yes I can always ask without, but I prefer ten times with than without

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by lapince

Sorry forgot to answer, he is based in Môtiers, it seems lovely, looking forward to seeing him, heard only excellent things about him

Ah, was jealous if you got to go to Finland. I loved it there.

[masterserg]

Congrats! I love it.

If it was for me, I'd go with the caseback. I love the idea of opening to view the movement (I assume there's s sapphire under the solid back? Is it hinged or does it just come off?). I would however go with a more muted design. No naked warrior chicks for me ... well, not on my watch anyway :)

I agree with you re. WG vs platinum. Platinum is an incredible material, but 40k is not a few bucks here and there.

I would add a power reserve.

If the choice would be Platinum + PR vs. caseback ... there wouldn't be a choice for me. I have no idea how the money works though.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

Ah, was jealous if you got to go to Finland. I loved it there.

I was for one month in summer very close, had a hard time with there being only a few hours of darkness at night, loved Tallin, Riga, lived there 2 years, hard winters there, first one for 4 months temperature was between minus 15 to minus 43 degrees celsius, with wind, under minus 40 I was incapable of walking 50 meters in the street, but it was only a few nights, not daytime, most clubs there had anywhere between 60-90% girls, and nice ones, in France samemnumbers but the other way around, after 2 weeks I was super motivated to learn russian, but that was 15 years ago, heard it's really not good now, since they installed many charters from GB, love English people, but many of the lower class people there get drunk as much as they can and start fights, the people there are sick of it.

if you like eastern countries many are great and understated, Romania, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Bielorussia and others

[lapince]

Originally Posted by masterserg

Congrats! I love it.

If it was for me, I'd go with the caseback. I love the idea of opening to view the movement (I assume there's s sapphire under the solid back? Is it hinged or does it just come off?). I would however go with a more muted design. No naked warrior chicks for me ... well, not on my watch anyway :)

I agree with you re. WG vs platinum. Platinum is an incredible material, but 40k is not a few bucks here and there.

I would add a power reserve.

If the choice would be Platinum + PR vs. caseback ... there wouldn't be a choice for me. I have no idea how the money works though.

She won't be naked but in armor
Of course under the caseback you have the back of most watches, exhibition back, the caseback is attached on one side, I always loved the idea, as well as some engravings like the one I posted, but mine should be nicer, in any case I am getting it that won't change

[SearChart]

Arnaud is getting a dress watch!!

[Samui]

Originally Posted by Marciano490

Ah, was jealous if you got to go to Finland. I loved it there.

What did you like so much about finland? I found it to be quite boring tbh.

[lapince]

Originally Posted by SearChart

Arnaud is getting a dress watch!!

A very funky dress watch Bas, doesn't count

Originally Posted by Samui

What did you like so much about finland? I found it to be quite boring tbh.

Maybe all the stunning girls there?

[Marciano490]

Originally Posted by Samui

What did you like so much about finland? I found it to be quite boring tbh.

I was 17, so the 5'10 blondes and their fascination with my dark hair and eyes. Plus good beer and I enjoyed reindeer more than I thought. Poor Rudolph :(