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Old 22 April 2017, 12:20 AM   #31
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I've seen the 24-hour hand painted solid red before, not common, but they are out there.
Thanks buddy, quite rare aren't they?
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Old 22 April 2017, 12:31 AM   #32
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What's the story with the brass bezel? I don't remember seeing that before. Admittedly, I'm not an expert. Just trying to learn.
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Old 22 April 2017, 12:58 AM   #33
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The stainless plating wears away over time and reveals the brass underneath. You'll see its quite common on these and the older 6538, 5510 etc.
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Old 22 April 2017, 11:00 AM   #34
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Old 29 April 2017, 10:11 PM   #35
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My dream watch! very nice example Justin!
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Old 30 April 2017, 01:54 AM   #36
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It would be exciting if others would post their before unnoticed all red small pointer gmt hand 6542's
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Old 8 May 2017, 06:36 PM   #37
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Looked at this watch , from my understanding all Red 24 hr hands came around in the early 1675. The hands look later than the watch unfortunately .
The bezel insert has odd bleeding around the numerals and the font looks in uniform but it could be the camera angle . I notice it's on Chrono24 for sale now ..,
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Old 8 May 2017, 07:19 PM   #38
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Looked at this watch , from my understanding all Red 24 hr hands came around in the early 1675. The hands look later than the watch unfortunately .
The bezel insert has odd bleeding around the numerals and the font looks in uniform but it could be the camera angle . I notice it's on Chrono24 for sale now ..,
Yes it's up for sale on chrono
I'm a modern watch dealer this is a personal watch I'd like to sell or trade always looking for offers so I put up as price on request to see what interest it generated.

The all red hand I've been told definitely exists on the 6542 haven't seen many myself whilst looking eiva.
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Old 8 May 2017, 07:32 PM   #39
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Yes , all red mini 24hr hands do exist on 6542's but they are few and far between .
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Old 8 May 2017, 07:36 PM   #40
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Yes , all red mini 24hr hands do exist on 6542's but they are few and far between .
Thanks for clarification Jed
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Old 8 May 2017, 08:08 PM   #41
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Ugggg....

My dream watch. I'd like to trade my family for this ��

There's another 6542 one on Chrono listed from 1945. That must be the rarest of them all

Wonder if Haywood Milton weighs in on this ?
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Old 8 May 2017, 08:59 PM   #42
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Ugggg....

My dream watch. I'd like to trade my family for this ��

There's another 6542 one on Chrono listed from 1945. That must be the rarest of them all

Wonder if Haywood Milton weighs in on this ?


I'd be interested in trading against a 6263 if the right one came up 💪🏻
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Old 8 May 2017, 09:05 PM   #43
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I still have my doubts on that bakelite. Since it is for sale I am throwing it out again. Does it glow? Checked radiation? Any expert feeling to vouch for this version? I could be wrong so please let me know if it looks AOK.

To me it either looks aftermarket or refinished.
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Old 8 May 2017, 11:45 PM   #44
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I still have my doubts on that bakelite. Since it is for sale I am throwing it out again. Does it glow? Checked radiation? Any expert feeling to vouch for this version? I could be wrong so please let me know if it looks AOK.

To me it either looks aftermarket or refinished.
Have you ever owned a Bakelite? Have you ever seen one In person?
Are you considering buying?

If none of the above applies to you i feel like you want this to be after market.

Rolex in the late 50's called back some of these bezels due to the radiation scare relumed them with other weaker radium compounds like PM147 the Bakelite produced after this time was also of a weaker radium compound

Yes I have used a Geiger although not the best quality.

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Old 8 May 2017, 11:58 PM   #45
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Have you ever owned a Bakelite? Have you ever seen one In person?
Are you considering buying?

If none of the above applies to you i feel like you want this to be after market.

Rolex in the late 50's called back some of these bezels due to the radiation scare relumed them with other weaker radium compounds like PM147 the Bakelite produced after this time was also of a weaker radium compound

Yes I have used a Geiger although not the best quality.

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I have owned a few yes. I am not considering buying but as you post it here at the same time as you advertise it on C24 I'm at least highlighting it. It would be interesting to hear others opinions as well. The fonts, bleeding and shape of the insert bothers me. I'm not saying it is wrong but I would be very interested in hearing others opinion as said.

It just doesn't look good to me. I'd be happy to be wrong though. It could be an original which is refinished as well as aftermaeket. Or I'm just wrong. Then I apologize for questioning. Feels important that we get it right as it is half the watch value wise.
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Old 9 May 2017, 12:15 AM   #46
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I have owned a few yes. I am not considering buying but as you post it here at the same time as you advertise it on C24 I'm at least highlighting it. It would be interesting to hear others opinions as well. The fonts, bleeding and shape of the insert bothers me. I'm not saying it is wrong but I would be very interested in hearing others opinion as said.

It just doesn't look good to me. I'd be happy to be wrong though. It could be an original which is refinished as well as aftermaeket. Or I'm just wrong. Then I apologize for questioning. Feels important that we get it right as it is half the watch value wise.
In that case I understand
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Old 9 May 2017, 12:42 AM   #47
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Have you ever owned a Bakelite? Have you ever seen one In person?
Are you considering buying?

If none of the above applies to you i feel like you want this to be after market.

Rolex in the late 50's called back some of these bezels due to the radiation scare relumed them with other weaker radium compounds like PM147 the Bakelite produced after this time was also of a weaker radium compound

Yes I have used a Geiger although not the best quality.

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The bezels were changed to an Aluminium bezel befoe or after the court case of 1960 . Rolex never ` operated ` on the bakelite bezels and changed the paint used in the numerals. I doubt it would even be possible.
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Old 9 May 2017, 12:54 AM   #48
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The bezels were changed to an Aluminium bezel befoe or after the court case of 1960 . Rolex never ` operated ` on the bakelite bezels and changed the paint used in the numerals. I doubt it would even be possible.
So if rolex wasn't able to operate on them because you doubt it would be impossible, why would anyone else be able to?

I have read in a few places that there was different versions of these bezels.
My insert has been seen by professionals and they agree it's genuine

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Old 9 May 2017, 12:58 AM   #49
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Hi Justin,

Is it possible for you to take some pictures of the watch straight on rather than at an angle? Seems like it would be easier to get a good look at the bezel without the reflections off of the crystal.

Thanks.
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Old 9 May 2017, 01:04 AM   #50
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So if rolex wasn't able to operate on them because you doubt it would be impossible, why would anyone else be able to?

I have read in a few places that there was different versions of these bezels.
My insert has been seen by professionals and they agree it's genuine

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I didn`t say I doubt it would be impossible, . I said I doubt it would even be possible.
There are rumours of service bezels inserts that were already produced prior to the recall that would of replaced the originals if they broke, which they did. But I think its safe to say any that were replaced under the recall were swapped for a metal insert.
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Old 9 May 2017, 01:09 AM   #51
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Thanks for clarification Jed
I addressed the all red hand many posts ago.
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Old 9 May 2017, 01:37 AM   #52
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I guess the only way to know that the illusive all Red hands were factory made would be through confirmed one owner watches , a lot can happen in 60 years and it's possible some watches that exist now with them didn't when they were sold . There is very limited resource out there to prove otherwise from my research .
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Old 9 May 2017, 01:45 AM   #53
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I addressed the all red hand many posts ago.
Yes indeed you did buddy but someon brought it up again
Jed clarified it to them
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Old 9 May 2017, 02:01 AM   #54
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very...very stunning!!!
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Old 9 May 2017, 05:08 AM   #55
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I didn`t say I doubt it would be impossible, . I said I doubt it would even be possible.
There are rumours of service bezels inserts that were already produced prior to the recall that would of replaced the originals if they broke, which they did. But I think its safe to say any that were replaced under the recall were swapped for a metal insert.
Maybe this could have been a service one who knows but 100% from Rolex
Here's some pics not great one at that

Where the numbers look like there double that's because it's reflecting of the lip on the inside of the insert

Bit scared to pop out of the bezel though
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Old 9 May 2017, 05:27 AM   #56
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Bit scared to pop out of the bezel though
I can believe you just did that!!!
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Old 9 May 2017, 05:41 AM   #57
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I can believe you just did that!!!
Haha no remove the bezel from the watch is easy
But removing the insert from the bezel is a different story

I broke a 5513 insert before and that killed me so not sure I wanna start breaking Bakelite inserts ��
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Haha no remove the bezel from the watch is easy
But removing the insert from the bezel is a different story

I broke a 5513 insert before and that killed me so not sure I wanna start breaking Bakelite inserts ��
definitely dont remove it, it does actually look better in your last pic though . Its hard to tell for sure.
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Old 9 May 2017, 06:53 AM   #59
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definitely dont remove it, it does actually look better in your last pic though . Its hard to tell for sure.
No I won't, I can just imagine it happening
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