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Old 26 December 2011, 01:22 PM   #31
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iwc is pilot watches are high quality and dependable. but i still put rolex in higher regard.
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Old 26 December 2011, 02:53 PM   #32
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Most of IWC's watches are based upon highly modified ETA movements except for a few of their high end models. While Rolex uses in-house movement for all their range.

I would say the Aquatimer 2000m with yellow bezel is my favorite IWC watch.
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Old 26 December 2011, 11:53 PM   #33
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Most of IWC's watches are based upon highly modified ETA movements except for a few of their high end models. While Rolex uses in-house movement for all their range.

I would say the Aquatimer 2000m with yellow bezel is my favorite IWC watch.
That's actually incorrect. Vast majority of their models have gone in-house since ETA was acquired by Swatch.
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Old 27 December 2011, 01:28 PM   #34
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IWC has a history of using ETA movements and making cases that are, imo, overpriced. Yes, now that Swatch has announced it will cut the umbilical cord, IWC has taken many efforts to make in-house movements. Craft by coercion is not my idea of craft.

I'd take a Portuguese, but otherwise, I kinda agree with WatchSnob about the brand. Plus the ones I've seen have quite noisy movements. They sold out to the point Rolex never did. Rolex is the better brand if you have to ask me about a "vs." situation.

The fact that some people will pay outrageous prices for IWC doesn't mean they're worth it... rather more likely just proof of a truism once espoused by PT Barnum.
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Old 28 December 2011, 10:59 PM   #35
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IWC has a history of using ETA movements and making cases that are, imo, overpriced. Yes, now that Swatch has announced it will cut the umbilical cord, IWC has taken many efforts to make in-house movements. Craft by coercion is not my idea of craft.
Would also apply to the Panerai in your avatar, no?
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Good morning, Greg. As you know, I love noisy movements and overpriced cases.
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This whole "must be in-house movement" idea is silly. I guess all those 16520s with Zenith movements are rubbish, ETA equipped Tudors are crap, and Panerais with Rolex movements are valueless? Come on, everyone knows better. I say judge the merits of the movement as well as its integration into the design.
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Would also apply to the Panerai in your avatar, no?
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Old 29 December 2011, 01:00 AM   #39
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Good morning, Greg. As you know, I love noisy movements and overpriced cases.
as do I, Chris, as do I

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This whole "must be in-house movement" idea is silly. I guess all those 16520s with Zenith movements are rubbish, ETA equipped Tudors are crap, and Panerais with Rolex movements are valueless? Come on, everyone knows better. I say judge the merits of the movement as well as its integration into the design.
Couldn't have said it better.
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Old 29 December 2011, 01:42 AM   #40
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This whole "must be in-house movement" idea is silly. I guess all those 16520s with Zenith movements are rubbish, ETA equipped Tudors are crap, and Panerais with Rolex movements are valueless? Come on, everyone knows better. I say judge the merits of the movement as well as its integration into the design.
I agree with that to a large degree, but there are clearly exceptions where I prefer having in-house to a third party.
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