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phdezra · 28 February 2021, 08:33 AM

I’ve looked (I think) but can’t find it, so asking here to ensure I’m not missing what I would like to buy: a Patek Philippe with small seconds with *automatic* (not manual wind).

5227R is automatic but with a long sweeping second hand, not the “small seconds” mini dial I seek in the center.

5196R has the small seconds but manual wind.

5296G is white gold and similar with long sweeping second hand akin the 5227R

3919 has the striking hobnail bezel with small seconds, yet also manual wind.

—> SO: is there a PP with automatic function and small seconds? It doesn’t overly complicate the dial, yet adds just a twenty bit of interest beyond a long sweeping second hand. Anyone?

Thank you.

phdezra · 28 February 2021, 08:41 AM

Think I jussssst found it: 2526J? It that is $65k or $38k [pre-owned] with an enamel dial. Is there nothing in between price points of the ones I mentioned earlier [$18k-$25k] and this one at $65k?

daytonaTBR · 28 February 2021, 02:48 PM

5712

phdezra · 28 February 2021, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aw15

5712

Thank you. Was looking for something more traditional. Have the blues covered for now. Thank you for this idea though!

MILGAUSS88 · 28 February 2021, 04:18 PM

The 2526 is 65 years old.
It uses the 12-600at movement. Patek's first automatic movement. And it is beautiful with the 18k guilloche rotor .
The 12-600at is shared with several other references. And guess what, they are not as expensive. You started with the cream of the crop. The 2526 is the only 12-600at model with an enamel dial and demands a significant premium.

There is the 2584, 2551 and 2552.

Or you can look at a second generation automatic the 27-460 movement, which offers an automatic movement with a small seconds as well, and at a lower price point still.

MILGAUSS88 · 28 February 2021, 04:41 PM

Here is a more complete list of references
They are automatic. I did not confirm, but I believe they all have the small second.

w/ 12-600at
2526
2540
2551
2552
2583
2584
2585
3403
3415

And a list of references with the 27-460
3425
3429
3433
3444
3445
3448
3454
3466
3473
3514
3541
3542
3558
3561

ts3 · 28 February 2021, 04:42 PM

Thinking of 3445 or 3466 with the 27-460 or the 5000s with the 240 movement.

Well... Looks like somebody just did your homework above.

watch-guy.com · 28 February 2021, 05:19 PM

Here is a selection of pp with auto move Mt ( mainly 12-600) but also 26-470

They offer really good value

Julian

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Flex368 · 28 February 2021, 09:22 PM

5085 Neptune?

28 February 2021, 08:33 AM	#1
phdezra 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC Watch: Rolex Posts: 163	*Looking for Patek Philippe small seconds as automatic(?!)* I’ve looked (I think) but can’t find it, so asking here to ensure I’m not missing what I would like to buy: a Patek Philippe with small seconds with automatic (not manual wind). 5227R is automatic but with a long sweeping second hand, not the “small seconds” mini dial I seek in the center. 5196R has the small seconds but manual wind. 5296G is white gold and similar with long sweeping second hand akin the 5227R 3919 has the striking hobnail bezel with small seconds, yet also manual wind. —> SO: is there a PP with automatic function and small seconds? It doesn’t overly complicate the dial, yet adds just a twenty bit of interest beyond a long sweeping second hand. Anyone? Thank you.

28 February 2021, 08:41 AM	#2
phdezra 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: NYC Watch: Rolex Posts: 163	Think I jussssst found it: 2526J? It that is $65k or $38k [pre-owned] with an enamel dial. Is there nothing in between price points of the ones I mentioned earlier [$18k-$25k] and this one at $65k?

28 February 2021, 02:48 PM	#3
daytonaTBR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: N/A Posts: 1,466	5712

28 February 2021, 04:18 PM	#5
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,950	The 2526 is 65 years old. It uses the 12-600at movement. Patek's first automatic movement. And it is beautiful with the 18k guilloche rotor . The 12-600at is shared with several other references. And guess what, they are not as expensive. You started with the cream of the crop. The 2526 is the only 12-600at model with an enamel dial and demands a significant premium. There is the 2584, 2551 and 2552. Or you can look at a second generation automatic the 27-460 movement, which offers an automatic movement with a small seconds as well, and at a lower price point still.

28 February 2021, 04:41 PM	#6
MILGAUSS88 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: mississippi river Posts: 2,950	Here is a more complete list of references They are automatic. I did not confirm, but I believe they all have the small second. w/ 12-600at 2526 2540 2551 2552 2583 2584 2585 3403 3415 And a list of references with the 27-460 3425 3429 3433 3444 3445 3448 3454 3466 3473 3514 3541 3542 3558 3561

28 February 2021, 04:42 PM	#7
ts3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Europe Posts: 3,239	Thinking of 3445 or 3466 with the 27-460 or the 5000s with the 240 movement. Well... Looks like somebody just did your homework above.

28 February 2021, 05:19 PM	#8
watch-guy.com Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: United States Posts: 501	Here is a selection of pp with auto move Mt ( mainly 12-600) but also 26-470 They offer really good value Julian Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

28 February 2021, 09:22 PM	#9
Flex368 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Felix Location: GMT +1 Watch: Yes! Posts: 2,975	5085 Neptune?

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