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versatile1 · 30 July 2012, 01:32 PM

So what other brand of watch other then Rolex holds their value?
Every Rolex I have owned I have either got all my money out of or made money. No other watch has been that generous to me.

Thoughts?

patek.wis · 30 July 2012, 01:45 PM

Depends on what price You buy at like all things

I've broken even or made a small amount on all Rolex

Every brietling I've had has made me a very, very generous return.
All relative

In terms of msrp though they lose not that much maybe 20-25%? They do very well.

Resale is stronger in Rolex but there are a lot on market at any time so could take a bit to sell.

J. Alan · 30 July 2012, 04:22 PM

Patek Philippe

J. Alan

911SC · 30 July 2012, 04:34 PM

You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet.

padi56 · 30 July 2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by versatile1

So what other brand of watch other then Rolex holds their value?
Every Rolex I have owned I have either got all my money out of or made money. No other watch has been that generous to me.

Thoughts?

Rolex watches and a few others like Patek have always held there prices well in the market place.But Rolex watch are not all about £££££££$$$$$$$ its about owning and wearing one of the finest mechanical watches made today.

MonBK · 30 July 2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Alan

Patek Philippe

J. Alan

Never heard of a J.Alan watch?

EE33 · 30 July 2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MonBK

Never heard of a J.Alan watch?

It's Canadian.

mikkolopez · 30 July 2012, 05:29 PM

Other than Rolex, some Omega models also hold value like the Speedmaster Pro Limited Editions. I've been meaning to land a meteorite sub-dialled Speedy Pro. I hear that model holds value.

MonBK · 30 July 2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EE33

It's Canadian.

travisb · 30 July 2012, 06:34 PM

Patek.

Andad · 30 July 2012, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Rolex watches and a few others like Patek have always held there prices well in the market place.But Rolex watch are not all about £££££££$$$$$$$ its about owning and wearing one of the finest mechanical watches made today.

Didn't you mean 'not' about $$$'s Peter?

Thanks mate just done a quick edit.

boywondergq1 · 30 July 2012, 07:20 PM

I agree on the Omega Speedmaster line.

Psmith · 30 July 2012, 07:26 PM

Some Panerai models hold their value well - the Luminor Base and Marina models in particular

Basically, any popular steel Swiss watch that is not produced in vast quantities (or is but the manufacturer/dealers won't admit it) and not deeply discounted will resell pretty well (YMMV)

kkwn98 · 30 July 2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 911SC

You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet.

This is just plain wrong.

Chad072 · 30 July 2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mikkolopez

Other than Rolex, some Omega models also hold value like the Speedmaster Pro Limited Editions. I've been meaning to land a meteorite sub-dialled Speedy Pro. I hear that model holds value.

I'm seeing the 2254.50's on the used market for $3-500 more than I paid from my AD new.

911SC · 31 July 2012, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kkwn98

This is just plain wrong.

Your reading to much into my statement my friend. I'm not talking about a 10k Rolex, I'm referring to complicated watches that cost 100k plus in regards to a high investment standpoint. That most likely will only go up in value.

slcbbrown · 31 July 2012, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 911SC

You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet.

With few exceptions (Rolex and maybe PP) the high end watches take a pounding at resale. If you pay MSRP, expect a substantial depreciation as you walk out the door. The exception that someone is going to mention will be when you pay a discounted price, which rarely happens with Rolex.

As to complicated watches (spelled even more expensive, usually), there is an even smaller market for these, so resale can be very spotty/inconsistent.

GermanyMatt · 31 July 2012, 11:35 PM

Panerai can be good, but you have to choose the right model.

HL65 · 31 July 2012, 11:56 PM

Everything depends on what you pay and that includes Rolex. Pay retail on any watch and you are out big. Only exception is certain Pateks and AP LE's--other than know your watches and entry points. Buy right and buy smart!

mltworldwide · 1 August 2012, 07:20 AM

Most watches bought new you will lose money on. sometimes if held a long time you will make money but not always. Rolex if bought with a discount or used will maintain or increase in value. Depends on the model too.

advan24r · 1 August 2012, 08:08 AM

What about Zenith? Would it be better to purchase preowned?

capote · 1 August 2012, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelerFan65

Buy right and buy smart!

I will echo that.

B. Doggy · 1 August 2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GermanyMatt

Panerai can be good, but you have to choose the right model.

...used to be the case.

liuk3 · 1 August 2012, 09:53 AM

Who pays retail?

SpunkyQ8 · 1 August 2012, 10:37 PM

from my personal experience I'd bet on the following,

Limited edition Panerai's
Rolex
Audemars Piguet
IWC (Pilots and Portugues)
Patek philippe

ToyCollector · 2 August 2012, 01:05 AM

Good list Spunky, and I agree. I have found the more common Panerais are not holding up too well if bought new. My 232 is the only one that has done well so far.

unknown · 2 August 2012, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SpunkyQ8

from my personal experience I'd bet on the following,

Limited edition Panerai's
Rolex
Audemars Piguet
IWC (Pilots and Portugues)
Patek philippe

AP ??? Offshore are -50% they minute you walk out the store, -40% for the royal oak

unknown · 2 August 2012, 02:30 AM

I would say most brands will go -40 to - 50 % the day after you bought them

Rolex sportsmodels and Panerai go - 35% (in both cases only steel)

Patek, only chronographs and steel Nautilusses will keep good value ( barely - 20%). Calatrava,annual and perpetual calendars also - 30 %
Also the super complications like 5207 - 3939 - etc but these are so expensive we better forget them :-)

Exceptions that go ABOVE list

Panerai - limted edtitions if historic correct so forget about gold cases , chrono's, and other complications
but think about the 127 - 217 - 232 - 249 - 339 - 382 - 390 - 448 - 449 - 360 - 21 - 230 and a few others

Patek all the lemania based chrongraphs but these are discontinued.
Limited editions like the advanced research series, boutique edtions, ... and ofcourse vintage pieces

Rolex ... nothing. It used to be the 16520 and 116520 but they ended in 2008.

AP SOME limited editions but also here this seems to be a thing of the past. Since they charge euro 30 tot 35K for a LE offshore people are not insane enough to give a premium anymore

Zenith ... here is a bet I want to take. The new Montre d'aéronef TYPE 20.
This wil be the first Zenith which sells good above listprice (again only the titanium) - this is my personal opinion but after 20 years collecting I think I know what I'm talking about

johnswatch · 2 August 2012, 03:28 AM

I echo the advice from Unknown.

Most high end complications take a beating at auction with the exception of some of the rare Patek and Vacherons.

You can get some wonderful exotic pieces for 30% of the retail at auction.

Another brand keeping a good resale would be Dornbluth. With waiting lists of up to 9 months for a new one you can sell one with little to no depreciation.

mb23 · 2 August 2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by unknown

AP ??? Offshore are -50% they minute you walk out the store, -40% for the royal oak

Offshore's arent 50% off, they tend to hover at 35-40 range. I just bought and sold a Panda at 17k a few months old. And the new releases hover in this area.

30 July 2012, 01:32 PM	#1
versatile1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Real Name: Jeff Location: Nanaimo, B.C. Watch: DJ2 Blue Romans Posts: 1,980	Other brands hold value? So what other brand of watch other then Rolex holds their value? Every Rolex I have owned I have either got all my money out of or made money. No other watch has been that generous to me. Thoughts?

30 July 2012, 04:34 PM	#4
911SC "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago/Michigan Watch: 16623 YM40 Posts: 1,305	You can bank on Rolex because frankly its a "Rolex", but almost any Swiss made watch will either hold their value or make you some money. If you want to talk numbers, any -high end- Swiss made "Complicated" time piece is a sure bet. __________________ “Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.” Steve McQueen

30 July 2012, 07:26 PM	#13
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	Some Panerai models hold their value well - the Luminor Base and Marina models in particular Basically, any popular steel Swiss watch that is not produced in vast quantities (or is but the manufacturer/dealers won't admit it) and not deeply discounted will resell pretty well (YMMV) __________________

31 July 2012, 11:56 PM	#19
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 DATE-JUST41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 63,480	Everything depends on what you pay and that includes Rolex. Pay retail on any watch and you are out big. Only exception is certain Pateks and AP LE's--other than know your watches and entry points. Buy right and buy smart! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

1 August 2012, 09:53 AM	#24
liuk3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,347	Who pays retail? __________________ "Appreciate your life!"

30 July 2012, 01:45 PM	#2
patek.wis "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Will Location: Canada Watch: The Sky Posts: 1,824	Depends on what price You buy at like all things I've broken even or made a small amount on all Rolex Every brietling I've had has made me a very, very generous return. All relative In terms of msrp though they lose not that much maybe 20-25%? They do very well. Resale is stronger in Rolex but there are a lot on market at any time so could take a bit to sell.

30 July 2012, 04:22 PM	#3
J. Alan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 529	Patek Philippe J. Alan

30 July 2012, 05:29 PM	#8
mikkolopez "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Philippines Posts: 2,301	Other than Rolex, some Omega models also hold value like the Speedmaster Pro Limited Editions. I've been meaning to land a meteorite sub-dialled Speedy Pro. I hear that model holds value.

30 July 2012, 06:34 PM	#10
travisb 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Travis Location: FL / NYC Watch: Yes.. Posts: 32,391	Patek.

30 July 2012, 07:20 PM	#12
boywondergq1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 792	I agree on the Omega Speedmaster line.

31 July 2012, 11:35 PM	#18
GermanyMatt "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: Matt Location: Northern VA Watch: 126711, 126610 Posts: 1,803	Panerai can be good, but you have to choose the right model.

1 August 2012, 07:20 AM	#20
mltworldwide 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: florida Posts: 8,331	Most watches bought new you will lose money on. sometimes if held a long time you will make money but not always. Rolex if bought with a discount or used will maintain or increase in value. Depends on the model too.

1 August 2012, 08:08 AM	#21
advan24r "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 85	What about Zenith? Would it be better to purchase preowned?

1 August 2012, 10:37 PM	#25
SpunkyQ8 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Aj Location: Kuwait Watch: RM,AP,PP,RLX,PAM Posts: 1,056	from my personal experience I'd bet on the following, Limited edition Panerai's Rolex Audemars Piguet IWC (Pilots and Portugues) Patek philippe

2 August 2012, 01:05 AM	#26
ToyCollector "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Georgia Posts: 130	Good list Spunky, and I agree. I have found the more common Panerais are not holding up too well if bought new. My 232 is the only one that has done well so far.

2 August 2012, 02:30 AM	#28
unknown "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 2,812	I would say most brands will go -40 to - 50 % the day after you bought them Rolex sportsmodels and Panerai go - 35% (in both cases only steel) Patek, only chronographs and steel Nautilusses will keep good value ( barely - 20%). Calatrava,annual and perpetual calendars also - 30 % Also the super complications like 5207 - 3939 - etc but these are so expensive we better forget them :-) Exceptions that go ABOVE list Panerai - limted edtitions if historic correct so forget about gold cases , chrono's, and other complications but think about the 127 - 217 - 232 - 249 - 339 - 382 - 390 - 448 - 449 - 360 - 21 - 230 and a few others Patek all the lemania based chrongraphs but these are discontinued. Limited editions like the advanced research series, boutique edtions, ... and ofcourse vintage pieces Rolex ... nothing. It used to be the 16520 and 116520 but they ended in 2008. AP SOME limited editions but also here this seems to be a thing of the past. Since they charge euro 30 tot 35K for a LE offshore people are not insane enough to give a premium anymore Zenith ... here is a bet I want to take. The new Montre d'aéronef TYPE 20. This wil be the first Zenith which sells good above listprice (again only the titanium) - this is my personal opinion but after 20 years collecting I think I know what I'm talking about __________________ Instagram : @collectible_watches

2 August 2012, 03:28 AM	#29
johnswatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a dream world Posts: 488	I echo the advice from Unknown. Most high end complications take a beating at auction with the exception of some of the rare Patek and Vacherons. You can get some wonderful exotic pieces for 30% of the retail at auction. Another brand keeping a good resale would be Dornbluth. With waiting lists of up to 9 months for a new one you can sell one with little to no depreciation. __________________ 18k GMTIIc, II,16013 DJ, PAM 112, Patek ref 96J, Helson Bronze, Elgin Trench, Gruen Curvex, Omega F300 and a few others......

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