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Old 14 November 2017, 11:39 PM   #61
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Old 14 November 2017, 11:46 PM   #62
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I could be wrong, but a lot of the suggestions in here do not fall under the definition of manufacturing. To make something on a large scale using machinery. British tailored clothing, handmade.

Someone said Persol. Which is a brand owned by Luxxotica who manufactures in China and Italy. So my vote would be China-for nearly every major brand eye wear.

Either way, my vote would be for medical equipment made in the USA. Not a consumer product so it is largely under the radar.
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Old 14 November 2017, 11:51 PM   #63
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I could be wrong, but a lot of the suggestions in here do not fall under the definition of manufacturing. To make something on a large scale using machinery. British tailored clothing, handmade.

Someone said Persol. Which is a brand owned by Luxxotica who manufactures in China and Italy. So my vote would be China-for nearly every major brand eye wear.

Either way, my vote would be for medical equipment made in the USA. Not a consumer product so it is largely under the radar.
Manufacturing is the production of merchandise for use or sale using labour and machines, tools, chemical and biological processing, or formulation. Scale doesnt matter technically as people were manufacturing things prior to the industrial revolution. Generally the lower the scale the higher the quality IE British tailoring and bespoke shoes.
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Old 14 November 2017, 11:57 PM   #64
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Manufacturing is the production of merchandise for use or sale using labour and machines, tools, chemical and biological processing, or formulation. Scale doesnt matter. Generally the lower the scale the higher the quality IE British tailoring and bespoke shoes.
I'm just going by the definition in Websters dictionary and I'm from the motor city so when I hear manufacturing I think large scale. Your definition makes more sense.
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Old 15 November 2017, 12:07 AM   #65
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Old 15 November 2017, 12:08 AM   #66
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I'm just going by the definition in Websters dictionary and I'm from the motor city so when I hear manufacturing I think large scale. Your definition makes more sense.
i think thats what most often comes to mind, but i think small scale manufacturing is where some of the best stuff comes from. Personally it doesn't bother me either way, i just prefer small batch stuff in general.
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Old 15 November 2017, 12:55 AM   #67
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i wouldn't count high density chicken farms as high quality or the "best". Those chickens can't even stand up since they are packed in so tightly and are so fat they fall over. Plus they are pumped full of antibiotics. Free range would be quality to me. Quantity is not the same as quality.

The manufacturing process might be excellent but the raw material (chickens) isnt so the end product can't be the best.
Youíre first paragraph is wrong on every point. The chickens walk freely in the houses from food to water to rest. None of the big producers use antibiotics anymore (havenít for years). And the birds are lean, low fat, high muscle percentage (fat is waste in the chicken business). The broiler breeds are selected for muscle quality, disease reistance, and growth rate.

Unless you are visiting your local farmer for your chicken, you are likely eating meat produced by the US method. True free range has high disease and predator loss, and low production rates. Which, drives costs up. Typically 8-10 times more expensive. Are you paying 10 times more for your chicken? If not, itís produced using the US method.
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Old 15 November 2017, 12:58 AM   #68
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You’re first paragraph is wrong on every point. The chickens walk freely in the houses from food to water to rest. None of the big producers use antibiotics anymore (haven’t for years). And the birds are lean, low fat, high muscle percentage (fat is waste in the chicken business). The broiler breeds are selected for muscle quality, disease reistance, and growth rate.

Unless you are visiting your local farmer for your chicken, you are likely eating meat produced by the US method. True free range has high disease and predator loss, and low production rates. Which, drives costs up. Typically 8-10 times more expensive. Are you paying 10 times more for your chicken? If not, it’s produced using the US method.
I don't eat meat personally

maybe its different but i doubt it.... https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-welfare-farms

"A series of photographs taken a few days apart showed a normal, traditionally bred egg-laying hen as it grows from chick to maturity. Underneath were parallel pictures of the modern broiler taken at the same intervals. By day nine, the broiler’s legs can barely keep its oversized breast off the ground. By day 11, it is puffed up to double the size of its cousin. It looks like an obese nine-year-old standing on the legs of a five-year-old. By day 35 it looks more like a weightlifter on steroids and dwarfs the egg-laying hen.""The intensively produced broiler is typically kept in an artificially lit shed of around 20,000-30,000 birds. Computers control heating and ventilating systems and the dispensing of feed and water. The water and feed are medicated with drugs to control parasites or with mass doses of antibiotics as necessary. Units are cleaned only at the end of each cycle, so after two to three weeks the floor of the shed is completely covered with faeces and the air tends to be acrid with ammonia."
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Old 15 November 2017, 01:09 AM   #69
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Agree with the literal sense of your post, but the innovation and durability of the engines, etc., were long in place prior to coming to our shores.
Iím pretty sure Honda does R&D here in the states. They have a big facility here in California.

Iím not trying to take anything away from Honda or the Japanese, itís just that in this day and age itís hard to give credit to just one people/country.
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i think thats what most often comes to mind, but i think small scale manufacturing is where some of the best stuff comes from. Personally it doesn't bother me either way, i just prefer small batch stuff in general.
I agree with Ireland.
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And while not manufacturing, the do make and maintain the greatest golf courses on the planet. And Golf IS a consumable.
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I was actually talking about Japan for this. You will be treated like a King, esp if you have some friends who can get you in on the inside where tourists never go. Different world.
Again, Ireland!
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I don't eat meat personally

maybe its different but i doubt it.... https://www.theguardian.com/environm...-welfare-farms

"A series of photographs taken a few days apart showed a normal, traditionally bred egg-laying hen as it grows from chick to maturity. Underneath were parallel pictures of the modern broiler taken at the same intervals. By day nine, the broiler’s legs can barely keep its oversized breast off the ground. By day 11, it is puffed up to double the size of its cousin. It looks like an obese nine-year-old standing on the legs of a five-year-old. By day 35 it looks more like a weightlifter on steroids and dwarfs the egg-laying hen.""The intensively produced broiler is typically kept in an artificially lit shed of around 20,000-30,000 birds. Computers control heating and ventilating systems and the dispensing of feed and water. The water and feed are medicated with drugs to control parasites or with mass doses of antibiotics as necessary. Units are cleaned only at the end of each cycle, so after two to three weeks the floor of the shed is completely covered with faeces and the air tends to be acrid with ammonia."
Propaganda.

A “big” chicken is around 8 pounds at slaughter and moves around easily on its own (if they were too big to walk, how would they get to the feed and water?). Chickens larger than that are too difficult to process efficiently at the plant Keep in mind that legs and wings have markets the same as breast meat. The birds are proportioned the same as your free range birds.

Nobody uses antibiotics anymore. And when they did, they weren’t the antibiotics people and pets get. The only “drug” they get today is a vaccine in the egg at the hatchery.
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Propaganda.

A ďbigĒ chicken is around 8 pounds at slaughter and moves around easily on its own (if they were too big to walk, how would they get to the feed and water?). Chickens larger than that are too difficult to process efficiently at the plant Keep in mind that legs and wings have markets the same as breast meat. The birds are proportioned the same as your free range birds.

Nobody uses antibiotics anymore. And when they did, they werenít the antibiotics people and pets get. The only ďdrugĒ they get today is a vaccine in the egg at the hatchery.
You tell 'em chicken man.
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US - Caterpillar. The industry standard for heavy equipment.
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Cat and Liebherr are the very best at what they do.
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Another vote for Sweden. Husqvarna (chain saws and dirt bikes).
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Aren't they on KTM platforms?
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Another vote for Sweden. Husqvarna (chain saws and dirt bikes).
Germany - Stihl makes the best chainsaws. Husqvarna isnít even close.
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You are correct. I was unaware that the Husqvarna motorcycle division had been sold several times dating back to 1987 (Cagiva>BMW>KTM). I've always thought of Husqvarna as one of those benchmark Swedish brands.
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Germany - Stihl makes the best chainsaws. Husqvarna isn’t even close.
Stihl makes a damn good professional-grade chainsaw. I've owned/used Homelite & Shindaiwa (for puttering around the house) but my older Husqvarna is pretty hard to beat for the heavy-duty stuff. It was a significant improvement over an earlier Mac. Then again, it's one of the 'made in Sweden' models and Husqvarna has since expanded into the home/amateur marketplace. I read somewhere that their newer 'home' models are being made in Latin America and Asia. For $199.00 at your local Lowes, expectations shouldn't be too high.

Another factor is the quality/hardness of the blades. Nothing worse than having to stop and sharpen. I've noticed that European-built Stihls (Germany) and Huskies (Sweden) seem to utilize better-grade steel blades than their Japanese counterparts.
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I've yet to taste real Irish Guinness supposedly Nth 'Murica gets theirs from Ireland direct. Everything we get in SEAsia I assume is from local plant in Malaysia or the three in Africa.
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