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athom · 29 April 2019, 12:32 AM

Hi mates, I'm lookibg for a 16520 unpolished , no serviced parts, black dial inverted 6 dial. Here are 3, what's your opinion, for which one you'd go and why?

Many thanks considering my request !

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10390608.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10220332.htm

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/cosmo...d10694674.htmt

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 12:59 AM

All of those have been polished....so not sure why you are looking at them if you want unpolished example?? All the bezels show Polish with blurry numbers. The last one has replacement bezel also

athom · 29 April 2019, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

All of those have been polished....so not sure why you are looking at them if you want unpolished example?? All the bezels show Polish with blurry numbers. The last one has replacement bezel also

I didn't know that all have been polished ! Thanks ! I really don't know how to recognize that, if a 16520 has been polished or not...

However in the description of the last it is written :

"This specific watch is truly collectible:
...
- MK 3 bezel (correct with E7 serial)
- The green caseback sticker is still firmly affixed to the unpolished caseback.
..."

Total rubbish then?!

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 02:21 AM

Yes rubbish....find a NOS 16520 and study the bezel, crisp black numbers. I have a couple nos bezels so it’s easy for me to see and I have multiple zeniths. If the numbers are blurry or worn down they have been polished...the last example look at the words on the bezel they have large spacing between the letters. That’s a replacement bezel same as on a 116520 not proper for an inverted 6....they very last batches of luminova SEL zeniths can have that bezel but no tritium zeniths we’re fitted with that bezel...there is also a black dial fake inverted 6 on chrono24 so be careful

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 02:22 AM

Everybody wishes and claims they have unpolished 16520 but 90% are not true unpolished examples

athom · 29 April 2019, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Yes rubbish....find a NOS 16520 and study the bezel, crisp black numbers. I have a couple nos bezels so it’s easy for me to see and I have multiple zeniths. If the numbers are blurry or worn down they have been polished...the last example look at the words on the bezel they have large spacing between the letters. That’s a replacement bezel same as on a 116520 not proper for an inverted 6....they very last batches of luminova SEL zeniths can have that bezel but no tritium zeniths we’re fitted with that bezel...there is also a black dial fake inverted 6 on chrono24 so be careful

Not easy ! a NOS inverted 6 is not easy to find, I found next to my place a floating inverted 6 for US$ 60k...and a NOS from 2000 but both are not really comparable...

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 02:37 AM

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10390608.htm

This is the one with the incorrect bezel...and look at the subdial with 6 and 9...they look nothing like the other examples they are blurry and the 9 is almost closed together....I seriously doubt this is a legit dial and I would bet a lot of money it had been altered or fake all together

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 02:39 AM

Nos examples are easy to find at 50k and up.... I am just saying find pics to compare. There is always a few nos examples on chrono and there was one here on TRF last week. Easy to find yes, easy to buy lol Hell no

athom · 29 April 2019, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10390608.htm

This is the one with the incorrect bezel...and look at the subdial with 6 and 9...they look nothing like the other examples they are blurry and the 9 is almost closed together....I seriously doubt this is a legit dial and I would bet a lot of money it had been altered or fake all together

Now I see the 6 and especially the 9 are very bad ! Does is worth it to buy a 16520 NOS luminova and SEL from 2000? I mean as a watch collector, as a collectible watch? I don't talk about selling it in some years, I for sure keep the watches I buy!

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 04:44 AM

Nos zenith is super collectible, for me buying One would depend on $$$$

1665fan · 29 April 2019, 08:01 AM

My personal opinion is open up to white dial inverted 6, they are just as beautiful and then you can find a near mint example easier looking for either dial

athom · 5 May 2019, 10:32 AM

Hi mates, this one is not inverted 6 but what do you think? Also is it unpolished?

https://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/dayton...-id9843018.htm

Best

1665fan · 5 May 2019, 12:58 PM

Strong money for that but is actually unpolished unlike most people claiming they have unpolished zenith....

TurboWatch · 5 May 2019, 04:15 PM

The Zenith Daytona ain't that rare. Period! That is with the exception of porcelain ones.There are many of them out there. Unless money grows on tree for you, take your time....

Hey, as the owner of MANY full set 16520s, I would love to get $50K for my A serial safe queen

Mik8yu · 5 May 2019, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboWatch

The Zenith Daytona ain't that rare. Period! That is with the exception of porcelain ones.There are many of them out there. Unless money grows on tree for you, take your time....

Hey, as the owner of MANY full set 16520s, I would love to get $50K for my A serial safe queen

USD50k ? You must be joking. These are on offer for a lot more !

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TurboWatch · 5 May 2019, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mik8yu

USD50k ? You must be joking. These are on offer for a lot more !

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Mate, there is this saying:

"A fool and his money will soon be parted!".

Just don't believe the hype. There are many of them around. Don't pay stupid money for them. Yes, they are nice and all. BUT....

I'd bet ya I'd get more than $50K for my (some called light Patrizzi) full set ( even comes with the original plastic bezel cover (never serviced, never polished safe queen) :

Mik8yu · 5 May 2019, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboWatch

Mate, there is this saying:

"A fool and his money will soon be parted!".

Just don't believe the hype. There are many of them around. Don't pay stupid money for them. Yes, they are nice and all. BUT....

I'd bet ya I'd get more than $50K for my (some called light Patrizzi) full set ( even comes with the original plastic bezel cover (never serviced, never polished safe queen) :

Can’t agree more.

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1665fan · 5 May 2019, 11:38 PM

Yes zeniths are only going up in value that’s for sure

athom · 6 May 2019, 04:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Strong money for that but is actually unpolished unlike most people claiming they have unpolished zenith....

Thanks 1665fan, always there to answer me

So you find the price really to high for this full set unpolished one?

Best.

1665fan · 6 May 2019, 04:49 AM

Not really high but on the high side of the spectrum, but black dial zeniths generally go for more. Nice watch though and I’d be happy with it at high twenties US

athom · 7 May 2019, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Not really high but on the high side of the spectrum, but black dial zeniths generally go for more. Nice watch though and I’d be happy with it at high twenties US

Which price shall I propose him? What would be a final fair price? Best.

WatchBrothersLondon · 8 May 2019, 07:10 PM

For this purchase I would look to established dealers who often float their stock on Instagram. I've seen a number of unpolished/potentially unworn black dial 16520's pop up recently from the likes of Kevin Acuna, Eric Ku and Fog City Vintage. Best of luck with the hunt.

athom · 10 May 2019, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchBrothersLondon

For this purchase I would look to established dealers who often float their stock on Instagram. I've seen a number of unpolished/potentially unworn black dial 16520's pop up recently from the likes of Kevin Acuna, Eric Ku and Fog City Vintage. Best of luck with the hunt.

What a hunt ! Thanks for the tips! I'm looking for a NOS Serial A for 37k€ and a full set very good condition but once polished Serial A for 29k€ yet...let's see..

Frakis · 5 October 2019, 04:05 PM

Any updates on your hunt OP?

Sublovin · 5 October 2019, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by athom

I didn't know that all have been polished ! Thanks ! I really don't know how to recognize that, if a 16520 has been polished or not...

However in the description of the last it is written :

"This specific watch is truly collectible:
...
- MK 3 bezel (correct with E7 serial)
- The green caseback sticker is still firmly affixed to the unpolished caseback.
..."

Total rubbish then?!

A case back being unpolished doesn’t mean the entire watch is unpolished

29 April 2019, 12:32 AM	#1
athom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 688	16520 Advices Hi mates, I'm lookibg for a 16520 unpolished , no serviced parts, black dial inverted 6 dial. Here are 3, what's your opinion, for which one you'd go and why? Many thanks considering my request ! https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10390608.htm https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10220332.htm https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/cosmo...d10694674.htmt

5 October 2019, 04:05 PM	#24
Frakis 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: USA Posts: 2,819	Any updates on your hunt OP? __________________ Two Factor Authentication Enabled On My Account.

29 April 2019, 12:59 AM	#2
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	All of those have been polished....so not sure why you are looking at them if you want unpolished example?? All the bezels show Polish with blurry numbers. The last one has replacement bezel also

29 April 2019, 02:21 AM	#4
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Yes rubbish....find a NOS 16520 and study the bezel, crisp black numbers. I have a couple nos bezels so it’s easy for me to see and I have multiple zeniths. If the numbers are blurry or worn down they have been polished...the last example look at the words on the bezel they have large spacing between the letters. That’s a replacement bezel same as on a 116520 not proper for an inverted 6....they very last batches of luminova SEL zeniths can have that bezel but no tritium zeniths we’re fitted with that bezel...there is also a black dial fake inverted 6 on chrono24 so be careful

29 April 2019, 02:22 AM	#5
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Everybody wishes and claims they have unpolished 16520 but 90% are not true unpolished examples

29 April 2019, 02:37 AM	#7
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	https://www.chrono24.com/rolex/dayto...id10390608.htm This is the one with the incorrect bezel...and look at the subdial with 6 and 9...they look nothing like the other examples they are blurry and the 9 is almost closed together....I seriously doubt this is a legit dial and I would bet a lot of money it had been altered or fake all together

29 April 2019, 02:39 AM	#8
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Nos examples are easy to find at 50k and up.... I am just saying find pics to compare. There is always a few nos examples on chrono and there was one here on TRF last week. Easy to find yes, easy to buy lol Hell no

29 April 2019, 04:44 AM	#10
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Nos zenith is super collectible, for me buying One would depend on $$$$

29 April 2019, 08:01 AM	#11
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	My personal opinion is open up to white dial inverted 6, they are just as beautiful and then you can find a near mint example easier looking for either dial

5 May 2019, 10:32 AM	#12
athom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 688	Hi mates, this one is not inverted 6 but what do you think? Also is it unpolished? https://www.chrono24.fr/rolex/dayton...-id9843018.htm Best

5 May 2019, 12:58 PM	#13
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Strong money for that but is actually unpolished unlike most people claiming they have unpolished zenith....

5 May 2019, 04:15 PM	#14
TurboWatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,641	The Zenith Daytona ain't that rare. Period! That is with the exception of porcelain ones.There are many of them out there. Unless money grows on tree for you, take your time.... Hey, as the owner of MANY full set 16520s, I would love to get $50K for my A serial safe queen

5 May 2019, 11:38 PM	#18
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Yes zeniths are only going up in value that’s for sure

6 May 2019, 04:49 AM	#20
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,590	Not really high but on the high side of the spectrum, but black dial zeniths generally go for more. Nice watch though and I’d be happy with it at high twenties US

8 May 2019, 07:10 PM	#22
WatchBrothersLondon 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Real Name: Ben Location: London, UK Posts: 589	For this purchase I would look to established dealers who often float their stock on Instagram. I've seen a number of unpolished/potentially unworn black dial 16520's pop up recently from the likes of Kevin Acuna, Eric Ku and Fog City Vintage. Best of luck with the hunt.

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