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Old 20 December 2017, 12:12 AM   #1
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being scammed by a pledge member. please help

I have purchased multiple watches through this forum and never had an experience like this. I worked out a price for a Rolex 116610 Submariner with Karle12 via email. During the discussions we agreed that he would ship the watch overnight the following morning. I promptly wired $7000 to his account which he told me he received the following morning at 9am.

The following day I wait till the evening and email him about getting a tracking number. He tells me that he didn't have a chance to ship the watch and will ship it overnight the following day. The following day he makes up an excuse that he couldn't make it to the post office again and that he would mail out the watch on the following Monday. At this point I start getting concerned and agitated and tell him to wire my money back. He sends me a receipt showing that he wired my money. It is now Tuesday of the following week and I still haven't received the funds back in my account.

Please advise me as to what to do. Thank you.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:29 AM   #2
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That is terrible. Sorry no substantial piece of advice here but I do hope everything gets sorted out for the both of you
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:30 AM   #3
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Have you notified the mods?
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:31 AM   #4
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I just did
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:33 AM   #5
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File a police report. Since it is a wire, file a complaint with the FBI. If the seller was honest you would have received your watch or the return of funds by now.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:33 AM   #6
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pretty major, wire fraud? that's Federal isn't it?
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:33 AM   #7
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Thanks guys. Just trying to get this sorted out. It seems like he has other things listed on the forums.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:41 AM   #8
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Thanks guys. Just trying to get this sorted out. It seems like he has other things listed on the forums.
Can you provide a link? Thanks...and sorry for your troubles.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:43 AM   #9
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Trusted seller...???
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:46 AM   #10
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https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=572480

This is the original thread.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:50 AM   #11
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The seller better have a good explanation
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:51 AM   #12
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He sold another watch yesterday
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:52 AM   #13
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Here is his other ad.
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=575394

OP, I hope you get your money back but it smells like a scam to me.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:54 AM   #14
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He sold another watch yesterday
And hasn't logged in for 2 days.

I sent him a link to this thread.
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Old 20 December 2017, 12:54 AM   #15
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The seller better have a good explanation


Of course the seller deserves an explanation but in my mind it has to be a lot better than a good explanation. It better be a great explanation.

I hope it works out for the OP


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Old 20 December 2017, 12:59 AM   #16
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Maybe reach out to him and let him know this thread is started. A google search shows some positive feedback so maybe he has run into delays?

Hope it all works out in the end!!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=571582

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=8072215

ODD THOUGH BOTH REVIEWS HAVE SIMILAR POST COUNTS...
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:05 AM   #17
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Maybe reach out to him and let him know this thread is started. A google search shows some positive feedback so maybe he has run into delays?

Hope it all works out in the end!!

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=571582

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?p=8072215

ODD THOUGH BOTH REVIEWS HAVE SIMILAR POST COUNTS...
If you look at both their posts, they are mainly very short "Congrats," "Cheers," "beautiful watch" type posts. Hmmmm.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:10 AM   #18
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THIS WAS THE LISTING, NOW IN QUARANTINE :

"Any questions, feel free to PM or mail me at kxa.1two@gmail.com

Selling to fund a new purchase"








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Old 20 December 2017, 01:10 AM   #19
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Trusted seller...???
IMO, there's a big difference between a "trusted seller" and a guy selling a few watches.

He's not on my trusted list.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:13 AM   #20
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The member has been banned and advised to contact administrator with a plan to make good his standing.

Contact the authorities.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:14 AM   #21
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When did you wire the funds? The seller indicates that the watch was sold on December 15 - last Friday. Today is only December 19, with a weekend between.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:16 AM   #22
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Dec 14th the wire was sent.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:17 AM   #23
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Watchout section worthy.

Sorry for the issues OP.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:18 AM   #24
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I know it's off subject but is it me or those hands are yellow gold in the picture? Modded watch?
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:19 AM   #25
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Whats involved in becoming a pledge member? Do you request a drivers license?
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:20 AM   #26
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Whats involved in becoming a pledge member? Do you request a drivers license?
You donate money via Paypal. Any member can do it.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:20 AM   #27
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Wire fraud is a crime, it’s sad some folks want jail time over a few k.

OP I’m sure you’ll be made whole, may just take some time.
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:24 AM   #28
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Wires take one business day. Ask him for a Fed Confirmation Number!
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:26 AM   #29
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I hope it works out for the OP.

I'm always so disappointed when I see people behave like petty entitled children if they feel they have a chance to get away with something.

Ideally, I'd love to hear that the OP ends up getting his watch along with a hilarious story involving compounding mistakes and shenanigans...
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Old 20 December 2017, 01:28 AM   #30
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very sorry to hear this
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