“Entry level” Patek, what would you recommend?

[Kliminator]

I'm a fan of the 5196G - was actually looking into getting one for myself but will probably do it a little but down the road as I just picked up the new bluesy.

Aesthetically, the small seconds speaks to me more compared to the 5227G. However, wish that the 5196 had a see through caseback.

[PatekSF]

Big vote for the 5036/1g or 5085 ... both great bargains in the secondary market.

[enjoythemusic]

VT, considering your sporty use the Naut is the only thing worth considering by PP imho. Did you get a Bvlgari Octo yet?

[Pouring2010]

What’s your budget... mine was not large by Patek standards.

I bought a vintage calatrava.

Precious metal Dress watches are what PP are about for me. Not stainless steel sports watches.

I bought a vintage 3512. You will get a very food one for circa $7k




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[jon_jon]

If you were asking about an "Entry Level Patek" 6-7 year ago, people would have said the Aquanaut. Today, the answer would be a Calatrava, if you are strictly speaking about price of entry to the Patek world.

The 5196 is a great traditional Calatrava with a seconds hand on the subdial. If you are coming from the Rolex world, you may not be used to manual wind watches. However the 5196 is a manual wind watch and you will need to wind it every day or two, as compared to a self-wind watch.

The 5227 is a "Modern Calatrava" introduced in 2013. It has a larger case and is an automatic. It comes with the officer's caseback which is not often seen in modern Patek watches, but a nice hidden feature.

There are some other recently discontinued Calatravas to consider including the 5296 or the 5127.

Take your time and visit some Patek ADs and try on a few watches. Also try on some pre-owned Pateks at pre-owned watch stores. Eventually you will know which watch will sing to you.

[cascavel]

jon_jon makes a good point about the 5127, which is a beautiful Patek option as is the 5107.

[gnuyork]

Originally Posted by Kliminator

However, wish that the 5196 had a see through caseback.

Not much to look at I'm afraid. I think that's why it's solid...which I actually prefer.

The 5196 would be my choice of first Patek... It's classic. It's be hard to choose a metal. I've tried on three, only one I haven't was the platinum. They were perfect on the wrist for my wrist size.

[jed11]

I too have started looking into adding my first Patek. So many beautiful watches to choose from but the wallet will only allow me to seriously entertain only a few...I'm looking at the 5196 and the 5227. I'm leaning towards the 5196...the dial of the 5227 looks a little empty to me and I find the white/contrasting date window a little disruptive. Love everything else about it though but much prefer the layout of the 5196.

[scarlet knight]

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[sambb]

consider a vacheron patrimony if you want a bigger size at discount

[Pw92676]

IMO “entry level” is just what’s considered readily available and on the lower price point. I would try on a few, see what you really like and set your target that way. I admired a few pieces, went to see them and quickly realized they weren’t for me but the ones I had not given much interest to (based on pictures) were the ones that I liked. So I happy walked away and realized it was not my time to buy a Patek:)

[SMD]

Originally Posted by GB-man

5524G Paul. Its a pilots watch with a very intuitive travel time function and it's available without a premium...for now.

This is what I did. Comes Tuesday.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by SMD

This is what I did. Comes Tuesday.

Congrats!

[aj_tucker]

Originally Posted by TheVTCGuy

Greetings to all you PP owners My first ever post in this forum, although I will admit to being a lurker for quite a while. I love Rolex, but fantasize about obtaining a Patek.. someday. My question is which model would you say is the typical first PP for a new buyer? If we were talking Rolex to me it would be an easy choice, for dress: The DJ For sport: The Sub. For Patek, I am thinking one of the Nautilus models would be a good first to purchase, but not knowing that much about the brand could be way off (?).

What would you owners suggest is the best-first model?

Have you shared budget?

Cost aside, some models I love:

- 5196P
- 5205R, 5205G
- 5170G-001, 5170P
- And if cost is no object: 5970 (any metal, but the R is the highlight for me), 5270P, 5370P, 5131
- Vintage: 1463, 565, 2526

The sport models are all well over list right now and don't really interest me, personally. Enjoy the search!

[rockdrock]

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+1 . My friend got this for his one and only watch and he loves it. The thing is really perfect.


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[scarlet knight]

Originally Posted by rockdrock

+1 . My friend got this for his one and only watch and he loves it. The thing is really perfect.


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It’s a classic. When I look at my wrist to see what time it is and I am wearing the Patek, I say to myself “Whoa.”

People seem to prefer sports watches, but this is a classic.

[pam66]

Originally Posted by SMD

This is what I did. Comes Tuesday.

not to critizise your choice, but did you try the 5524R as well? both great watches

[Tomas Eriksson]

5524 is a great piece that can be find without having to wait.

[JorgeCCW]

like others said : 5146 or 5524

[SMD]

Originally Posted by pam66

not to critizise your choice, but did you try the 5524R as well? both great watches

I don't like rose gold

[imsayingthough]

i too hope to join this club one day.

[djona]

[Spartan1]

All things considered, the 5167, should you be so fortunate.

[KBM]

Hi Paul,

I understand PP sports has a following on the forum, but I believe the dress pieces are what truly represents the brand's ethos.

Patek invented the annual calendar and there are some beautiful references with very attractive prices on the market. I would go with an AC.

[KBM]

Originally Posted by djona

Gorgeous pic!

[Kliminator]

Originally Posted by djona

This is a fantastic shot!

[Puresurfr]

Im looking for my first Patek as well and my choices so far has been narrowed down to a 5905P.

*Im on the short list for a 5167A as well.

[Busyboy]

I'd say the nautilus would be the submariner of the club, albeit with more complications available

Annnd a calatrava is the dj of the club

Attainability tho is a bigger topic I suppose... As is affordability

[Tavi]

Originally Posted by Busyboy

I'd say the nautilus would be the submariner of the club, albeit with more complications available

Annnd a calatrava is the dj of the club

Attainability tho is a bigger topic I suppose... As is affordability

Absolutely the reason I purchased a Calatrava, I wanted to always think of a Datejust when looking at my wrist. Amazing insight and comparison.

[Jay (Eire)]

Paul, I just can’t believe this is your first post on this sub-forum.

Good luck with your search.