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chows99 · 12 August 2022, 06:33 PM

Price increases are not within our control and if this can help to put the watches in the right hands, why not?

Russell996 · 12 August 2022, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chows99

Price increases are not within our control and if this can help to put the watches in the right hands, why not?

Why will price increases help achieve that goal

crazymcmichael · 12 August 2022, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

Recession only hurts mostly lower middle class. Don’t get me wrong it does hit the middle middle class and the upper middle class as well but mostly the lower middle class. The extremely wealthy or .1% of income earners don’t get hurt by the recession. They are the idiots that cause it. Or better put they support the policies that cause it. Mostly I suspect because they don’t get affected by it. Patek will do just fine during the coming worldwide recession.

Yes but in my opinion exactly the lower middle-class is the target group of PATEK.. I don't see any normal wealthy people wear luxury watches in Europe.. It are all exactly the kind of people that try to show off something that isnt really there. In the USA btw i think this is different.

Nicof · 12 August 2022, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Yes but in my opinion exactly the lower middle-class is the target group of PATEK.. I don't see any normal wealthy people wear luxury watches in Europe.. It are all exactly the kind of people that try to show off something that isnt really there. In the USA btw i think this is different.

Weird statement…

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VogelPhoenix · 12 August 2022, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Yes but in my opinion exactly the lower middle-class is the target group of PATEK.

Trying to live up to your username, I presume.

Vintyage · 12 August 2022, 09:45 PM

Well it’s just an opinion: his opinion.

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joa · 12 August 2022, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Yes but in my opinion exactly the lower middle-class is the target group of PATEK.. I don't see any normal wealthy people wear luxury watches in Europe.. It are all exactly the kind of people that try to show off something that isnt really there. In the USA btw i think this is different.

this attempt at snobbery is just cringeworthy

INC · 12 August 2022, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Yes but in my opinion exactly the lower middle-class is the target group of PATEK..

PP for tha masses?

Mini2 · 12 August 2022, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by joa

this attempt at snobbery is just cringeworthy

mykii · 12 August 2022, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by crazymcmichael

Yes but in my opinion exactly the lower middle-class is the target group of PATEK.. I don't see any normal wealthy people wear luxury watches in Europe.. It are all exactly the kind of people that try to show off something that isnt really there. In the USA btw i think this is different.

enjoythemusic · 12 August 2022, 11:52 PM

Before the Euro, you could get Patek Philippe watches ~40% off USA msrp. Shop in Germany, for example, and you get a 8% discount due to currency arbitrage, 8% discount due to mismatched MSRP from German Mark to USD, and then add the normal 25% discount of Pateks and VAT back too.

If you wait for things to cool and supply to meet demand, i could see 30% off modern new in-box from AD PPs if you shop smartly.

HJZS2K · 13 August 2022, 01:02 AM

A lot of uncertainties and only time will tell. I'd be happy to see those days of discounts again but I don't think I've paid anything but msrp for a couple of years now. I keep on having this feeling that it won't happen again but let's hope I'm wrong.

joa · 13 August 2022, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by HJZS2K

A lot of uncertainties and only time will tell. I'd be happy to see those days of discounts again but I don't think I've paid anything but msrp for a couple of years now. I keep on having this feeling that it won't happen again but let's hope I'm wrong.

a few more of those 5% price bumps and you will soon be able to buy at MSRW again

HJZS2K · 13 August 2022, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by joa

a few more of those 5% price bumps and you will soon be able to buy at MSRW again

exactly. It's like a perpetual black friday's sale. Raise prices by 20% and give 20% off!

DK7 · 25 August 2022, 05:05 PM

any news?

AEV · 29 August 2022, 09:54 PM

I was at my AD on Friday.
The SA told me the increase will be 8%, the highest they have seen recently.

jsobral · 30 August 2022, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by AEV

I was at my AD on Friday.
The SA told me the increase will be 8%, the highest they have seen recently.

Glad I got the call for my first grail Patek on August

Had to pay a huge sum anyway due to 2022's MSRPs and stupid taxes.

JC180 · 1 September 2022, 10:48 AM

Prices have increased in the UK at midnight some chunky increases to the nautilus range. The 5740 is now £117k is was around £104k last time I checked. 5712 is knocking on £40k which is a huge chunk of change to buy now even at list. The cost has doubled in just 8 years.

chows99 · 1 September 2022, 01:24 PM

I didn't spot any price increase.... Odd...

scurfa · 1 September 2022, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chows99

I didn't spot any price increase.... Odd...

Refresh your page, the ladies 24 I’ve been looking at was £38,600 yesterday and it changed to exactly £40,000 today

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watchgeezer · 1 September 2022, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chows99

I didn't spot any price increase.... Odd...

Prices did increase.

for example, 5212A was circa £28.8k retail, it's showing £30k now.

TimepieceRPP · 1 September 2022, 06:51 PM

5320G up to 76190GBP now..... 5205 to 44760GBP.... up up up... all up.....

Mini2 · 1 September 2022, 08:52 PM

The only way is UP

TimepieceRPP · 1 September 2022, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JC180

Prices have increased in the UK at midnight some chunky increases to the nautilus range. The 5740 is now £117k is was around £104k last time I checked. 5712 is knocking on £40k which is a huge chunk of change to buy now even at list. The cost has doubled in just 8 years.

25xxx GBP in 2017 while I was asking for this from an AD.

GreatCircle · 1 September 2022, 09:39 PM

5167R seems +6%

khairain · 2 September 2022, 12:13 AM

Patek website in asia side haven't increase yet. still the old price

TimepieceRPP · 2 September 2022, 12:56 AM

France also the same, seems no price increase but just the UK?

HJZS2K · 2 September 2022, 01:01 AM

US side seems to be the same. I guess this is similar to that Rolex thread.

Vasco · 2 September 2022, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by TimepieceRPP

France also the same, seems no price increase but just the UK?

Yes, I saw the prices increase this morning in France as well.

TimepieceRPP · 2 September 2022, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Vasco

Yes, I saw the prices increase this morning in France as well.

Oh really? Thanks. I will check again. :)

12 August 2022, 11:52 PM	#71
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,403	Before the Euro, you could get Patek Philippe watches ~40% off USA msrp. Shop in Germany, for example, and you get a 8% discount due to currency arbitrage, 8% discount due to mismatched MSRP from German Mark to USD, and then add the normal 25% discount of Pateks and VAT back too. If you wait for things to cool and supply to meet demand, i could see 30% off modern new in-box from AD PPs if you shop smartly. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

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12 August 2022, 06:33 PM	#61
chows99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Singapore Posts: 604	Price increases are not within our control and if this can help to put the watches in the right hands, why not?

12 August 2022, 09:45 PM	#66
Vintyage Banned Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: The States Posts: 136	Well it’s just an opinion: his opinion. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 August 2022, 01:02 AM	#72
HJZS2K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: J Location: NY Posts: 311	A lot of uncertainties and only time will tell. I'd be happy to see those days of discounts again but I don't think I've paid anything but msrp for a couple of years now. I keep on having this feeling that it won't happen again but let's hope I'm wrong.

25 August 2022, 05:05 PM	#75
DK7 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Europe Posts: 316	any news?

29 August 2022, 09:54 PM	#76
AEV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Europe Watch: AP & Rolex Posts: 1,450	I was at my AD on Friday. The SA told me the increase will be 8%, the highest they have seen recently.

1 September 2022, 10:48 AM	#78
JC180 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Jacob Location: UK Watch: BLNR, BLRO, LV, SD Posts: 355	Prices have increased in the UK at midnight some chunky increases to the nautilus range. The 5740 is now £117k is was around £104k last time I checked. 5712 is knocking on £40k which is a huge chunk of change to buy now even at list. The cost has doubled in just 8 years.

1 September 2022, 01:24 PM	#79
chows99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Singapore Posts: 604	I didn't spot any price increase.... Odd...

1 September 2022, 06:51 PM	#82
TimepieceRPP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1,107	5320G up to 76190GBP now..... 5205 to 44760GBP.... up up up... all up.....

1 September 2022, 08:52 PM	#83
Mini2 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Uk Posts: 1,493	The only way is UP

1 September 2022, 09:39 PM	#85
GreatCircle "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: European Union Posts: 567	5167R seems +6%

2 September 2022, 12:13 AM	#86
khairain "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Kuala Lumpur Posts: 23	Patek website in asia side haven't increase yet. still the old price

2 September 2022, 12:56 AM	#87
TimepieceRPP "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1,107	France also the same, seems no price increase but just the UK?

2 September 2022, 01:01 AM	#88
HJZS2K "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Real Name: J Location: NY Posts: 311	US side seems to be the same. I guess this is similar to that Rolex thread.

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