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Old 17 February 2010, 05:14 PM   #1
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Seiko monster timekeeping review

Hi TRF'ers,

Rickys question about how well Monsters keep time gave me an idea.


There are quiet alot of us Monster owners here on TRF and so WE COULD ALL participate in a review of its timekeeping!!!!!!


The 7s26, 21 jewel mvmt beats at a rate of 26,600 bph and so is a little slower than would be usual these days,indicating a less accurate potential.

However,we already know the Monster is a bit of a giant slayer considering what you get for the money,so lets find out about this humble mechanisms ability.


PLEASE POST RESULTS FOR A FULL 24 HOUR TIMING PERIOD.

PLEASE ALSO STATE THE APPROXIMATE AGE OF THE WATCH.



I have never tested mine and i do not have it with me right now, so i will post a result later!!!!


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Old 18 February 2010, 12:34 AM   #2
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Can you propose a test method Everose? that would be fun...

Have never bothered doing this since I got into watches. Not sure of the best way.

I'm game...how shall we do it?
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Old 18 February 2010, 12:42 AM   #3
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Sounds like a cool idea, but I would suggest a testing period of at least 72 hours. That way we could take the average over the 3 days. As far as a testing method, I think either of these two would work fine:
1) Set it, wear it and check it every 24 hours, or
2) Set it, place it somewhere, check it every 24 hours and shake it (that way we keep the watch wound).

I'll set mine tonight and see how it goes

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Old 18 February 2010, 01:16 AM   #4
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Sounds like a cool idea, but I would suggest a testing period of at least 72 hours. That way we could take the average over the 3 days. As far as a testing method, I think either of these two would work fine:
1) Set it, wear it and check it every 24 hours, or
2) Set it, place it somewhere, check it every 24 hours and shake it (that way we keep the watch wound).

I'll set mine tonight and see how it goes

Dumb questions:

1.) What are you going to use as your source time? I have issues getting time.gov to work

2.) The Monster's second hand wont stop...right? How would you get the seconds on the dot???
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Old 18 February 2010, 07:27 AM   #5
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Dumb questions:

1.) What are you going to use as your source time? I have issues getting time.gov to work

2.) The Monster's second hand wont stop...right? How would you get the seconds on the dot???
1) Do you have an atomic watch?

2) Unscrew the crown all the way and put a little back pressure on it. The second hand will stop
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Old 18 February 2010, 09:54 AM   #6
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1) Do you have an atomic watch?

2) Unscrew the crown all the way and put a little back pressure on it. The second hand will stop
Thanks...

Nope. No atomic clock.
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Old 18 February 2010, 04:11 PM   #7
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Can you propose a test method Everose? that would be fun...

Have never bothered doing this since I got into watches. Not sure of the best way.

I'm game...how shall we do it?


How about USNO MAster clock......its the one Larry thought was the best method in another thread.....he pointed out receiving the signal from atomic method could vary between us.
However any online method could be flawed by your modem/broadband speeds varying.??????


Lets just pick a method.......i say USNO master clock????


usno.navy.mil/USNO/time/display-clocks/simpletime

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Old 18 February 2010, 04:19 PM   #8
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Were going for 72 hours then????????...as Ryan suggested???

Only thing is it would be good for others to add onto this thread when they come across at a later date.

Maybe they would be less likely to contribute if it is 72 hours trial!!!!!

Ryan over to you.....you just decide a time period!!!!!!
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Old 18 February 2010, 09:18 PM   #9
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Were going for 72 hours then????????...as Ryan suggested???

Only thing is it would be good for others to add onto this thread when they come across at a later date.

Maybe they would be less likely to contribute if it is 72 hours trial!!!!!

Ryan over to you.....you just decide a time period!!!!!!
Well considering this is a watch forum and not a scientific paper, I think as long as people record how long they tested their watch for and provide the average seconds gained or lost for a 24 hour time period, then either 24, 48, 72, 96 etc... would be fine. I don't think we all need to test for the same length of time. This way those of us who want to can test for as long as we want and those of us who simply want to compare quickly can test for the minimum of 24 hours. What do you think? Too complicated?

The main reason I suggested a longer test period was that I feel these watches have a settling in period and that the more you wear it the better the timekeeping is. Well that's what I've found anyway. But I'll tell you guys later how it goes. I set my watch at 1am this morning so I've still got a few hours left before I can report on the first 24 hour period, but so far it's looking very good
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Old 18 February 2010, 10:32 PM   #10
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OK i will post tmrw my result for 24 hours.
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Old 18 February 2010, 11:46 PM   #11
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OK i will post tmrw my result for 24 hours.
I've got just over 2 hours to go until I can post mine
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Old 19 February 2010, 12:16 AM   #12
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I've got just over 2 hours to go until I can post mine
hahahaha!!!!!

We are like kids in a toy store!!!!!!!


DONT FORGET TO POST THE AGE OF YOUR MONSTERS ALSO


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Old 19 February 2010, 01:17 AM   #13
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Hi TRF'ers,

Rickys question about how well Monsters keep time gave me an idea.


There are quiet alot of us Monster owners here on TRF and so WE COULD ALL participate in a review of its timekeeping!!!!!!


The 7s26, 21 jewel mvmt beats at a rate of 26,600 bph and so is a little slower than would be usual these days,indicating a less accurate potential.

However,we already know the Monster is a bit of a giant slayer considering what you get for the money,so lets find out about this humble mechanisms ability.


PLEASE POST RESULTS FOR A FULL 24 HOUR TIMING PERIOD.

PLEASE ALSO STATE THE APPROXIMATE AGE OF THE WATCH.



I have never tested mine and i do not have it with me right now, so i will post a result later!!!!


The BPH have little to do with the accuracy its how the watch is regulated thats where most of the accuracy comes from.Well IMO without the Seiko 7S26 and comparable movements from Miyota (Citizen), Orient, and ETA, many people would not be able to experience the joy of owning a mechanical watch.And given the reliability and robustness of the Seiko 7S26 movement.IMO I would not be shocked to see this movement run for 15-20 years without a service.Its a well made movement,but not a pretty movement,but with many good things like the Diafix cap jewels,and the nickel power train wheels,that are stronger than the traditional brass.And can be easily tuned to + - 5 seconds a day or better with a bit of patience in the regulation.But most mass produced Seiko's I have found, tend to run +15 to +20 seconds out of the box as they are factory set..
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Old 19 February 2010, 01:32 AM   #14
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hahahaha!!!!!

We are like kids in a toy store!!!!!!!


DONT FORGET TO POST THE AGE OF YOUR MONSTERS ALSO


Yeah we are aren't we and don't worry I won't forget

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The BPH have little to do with the accuracy its how the watch is regulated thats where most of the accuracy comes from.Well IMO without the Seiko 7S26 and comparable movements from Miyota (Citizen), Orient, and ETA, many people would not be able to experience the joy of owning a mechanical watch.And given the reliability and robustness of the Seiko 7S26 movement.IMO I would not be shocked to see this movement run for 15-20 years without a service.Its a well made movement,but not a pretty movement,but with many good things like the Diafix cap jewels,and the nickel power train wheels,that are stronger than the traditional brass.And can be easily tuned to + - 5 seconds a day or better with a bit of patience in the regulation.But most mass produced Seiko's I have found, tend to run +15 to +20 seconds out of the box as they are factory set..
I am more and more impressed with this watch everyday. It's just great I found that mine was a little fast when I first got it, but it seems to have settled down a lot since then.
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Old 19 February 2010, 02:19 AM   #15
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My Monster is about one month old and after the first 24 hours it is +2 seconds I'll post again after 48 hours.
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Old 19 February 2010, 02:30 AM   #16
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..........Open the back......it must be quartz!!!!!!


Incredible start.....
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Old 19 February 2010, 03:34 AM   #17
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I am still challenged with precisely synching my Monster with a web based clock.

Will try Everose' suggestion.
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Old 19 February 2010, 07:44 AM   #18
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Mine gains about about 30 seconds per day.
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Ryan

..........Open the back......it must be quartz!!!!!!


Incredible start.....
I'll post my 48 hour time in a couple of hours.
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Old 20 February 2010, 12:18 AM   #20
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24 hours....... +9 secs.

Mine is 5 months old.






I will report 48 hours tomorrow.

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Old 20 February 2010, 12:35 AM   #21
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Hi Chip.....How Old Is Your Monster?????



Bill.........did you get it sorted out????



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48 hours +3 seconds It's running like a champion.
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[B]Bill.........did you get it sorted out????[B]

>>> Well, I am going to the time.gov site, but must admit, I need to figure out the best way to match up the time - to the second. The time.gov site's time does not change in real time...i.e. you have to refresh. Makes it hard to do the seconds.

I must be missing something / and I must seem like a dolt...I know now to apply the back pressure on the crown to hold the seconds, but need to try this again.
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[B]Bill.........did you get it sorted out????[B]

>>> Well, I am going to the time.gov site, but must admit, I need to figure out the best way to match up the time - to the second. The time.gov site's time does not change in real time...i.e. you have to refresh. Makes it hard to do the seconds.

I must be missing something / and I must seem like a dolt...I know now to apply the back pressure on the crown to hold the seconds, but need to try this again.
Bill,

I just use my cell phone
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I just use my cell phone
Bill kun have to be "KANPEKI".
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Yes Joji...I am also very "KUDOI" - as you must know by now
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[B]Bill.........did you get it sorted out????[B]

>>> Well, I am going to the time.gov site, but must admit, I need to figure out the best way to match up the time - to the second. The time.gov site's time does not change in real time...i.e. you have to refresh. Makes it hard to do the seconds.

I must be missing something / and I must seem like a dolt...I know now to apply the back pressure on the crown to hold the seconds, but need to try this again.

Bill just google USNO Master Clock....it shows the seconds!!!!

Just select ÄnimatedUSNO Time in Standard Time Zones"




We know one of the BIG flaws with this whole thing is the difficulty setting the non-hacking seconds.

Just give it a shot!!!!.....this is about as far as you can get from an accurate experiment!!!!!!!! but its for fun as much as anything else!!!!

We are just looking for an indication of the mvts performance.

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Old 20 February 2010, 09:58 AM   #28
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I just set mine with http://www.time.gov/timezone.cgi?Pacific/d/-8/java. I will check back in
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48 hours +3 seconds It's running like a champion.
Wow!! I'm impressed!!
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Old 20 February 2010, 01:29 PM   #30
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lol beleive it or not, i was just going to start a post regarding the Monsters accuracy. Mine is simply AMAZING !! I've had it on my wrist since I bought it (Feb. 4) and as of now, it's lost a TOTAL of about 20 seconds. Not bad for a 16 day period. I haven't even come close to resetting the watch due to a loss, or jump in seconds. This watch is simply amazing. Now I have to break it down to a 72 hour time frame.
Let the timing begin !
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