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vh2k · 24 October 2020, 09:27 AM

Having watched these videos by Revolution, I noticed they repeatedly describe the new Submariner as tapered, elegant, and “more wearable.” These seem to be common themes expressed by those who have seen, tried on, and/or purchased the new model.

https://youtu.be/k4x2jqNF8s0

https://youtu.be/kdTQdo8AAno

I have the new one... and I do think it looks more tapered and elegant than its predecessor. I can’t say if it’s indeed “more wearable.”

So, what do you think? Is the new Sub more tapered, elegant, or wearable?

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JSolution · 24 October 2020, 09:33 AM

I would say so for the case, but maybe not so for the bracelet. Just going off photos though, haven’t seen or handled either.

vh2k · 24 October 2020, 09:34 AM

New one on the left; previous model on the right.

denmanproject · 24 October 2020, 09:38 AM

Not a fan of the new one at all

ronricks · 24 October 2020, 09:38 AM

Tried one on last weekend. I thought it was great and clasp was noticeably bigger. Not too much of a difference for me to get rid of my 116610 though.

noshame · 24 October 2020, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSolution

I would say so for the case, but maybe not so for the bracelet. Just going off photos though, haven’t seen or handled either.

Exactly this. But I would like to add that the case looking more tapered and elegant doesn't necessarily mean it's better than the 11xxxx. Depends on your preference.

georgekart · 24 October 2020, 09:42 AM

More tapered? Definitely. More elegant? Watch itself perhaps, but with the combination in bracelet not sure. Would have to see in person.

fskywalker · 24 October 2020, 10:00 AM

Yes

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Etschell · 24 October 2020, 10:05 AM

Submariner is not elegant.

enjoythemusic · 24 October 2020, 10:11 AM

I can always ground down the older model's case to be more like the newer version, but you can't do the opposite.

darius359 · 24 October 2020, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Etschell

Submariner is not elegant.

Does it become elegant once you reach "OO" status within MI6?

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georgekart · 24 October 2020, 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darius359

Does it become elegant once you reach "OO" status within MI6?

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No, you just don't need to give a damn at that point.

Nodzex · 24 October 2020, 10:31 AM

All of the above!

Brny11 · 24 October 2020, 10:31 AM

Pretty sure it is undeniable the 12xxx has more elegance. I own a 116610 but can’t possibly believe that anyone would disagree. Is it better?... that is subjective as is wearability (as I hear they are very similar). But elegance and design are much improved on the latest iteration.

Real question is elegance really what a Sub owner wants?? I’d leave that to classic line.

bigrustypig · 24 October 2020, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vh2k

Having watched these videos by Revolution, I noticed they repeatedly describe the new Submariner as tapered, elegant, and “more wearable.” These seem to be common themes expressed by those who have seen, tried on, and/or purchased the new model.

https://youtu.be/k4x2jqNF8s0

https://youtu.be/kdTQdo8AAno

I have the new one... and I do think it looks more tapered and elegant than its predecessor. I can’t say if it’s indeed “more wearable.”

So, what do you think? Is the new Sub more tapered, elegant, or wearable?

[The poll allows for multiple selections.]

What I think? I think I don’t care at all. Minutest of virtually unnoticeable changes, to me, are nothing.

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Kostas · 24 October 2020, 10:51 AM

I don’t mind it, they’ve made a few adjustments here and there but it wasn’t the massive change the 5 series to the 6 series was. More like an iPhone and the subsequent “s” model upgrade that follows the year after.

I don’t think too many previous 6 digit owners are going to sell theirs and rush out to get the new.

The movement is an upgrade, except for the teething problems a lot of users have posted about, hopefully they iron those out.

Tongyk · 24 October 2020, 10:55 AM

Hands on with the newer one, felt the bracelet was abit too wide for my liking perhaps due to my smaller wrist. Prefer the older model.

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Douglas9700 · 24 October 2020, 11:56 AM

Had the 116610 prior and now enjoying the new one. Both are terrific - the more tapered look really strikes home for me.....it's all personal taste. Don't think more/less 'elegant' or 'wearable' factors in to the differences - both are

cvo · 24 October 2020, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

I can always ground down the older model's case to be more like the newer version, but you can't do the opposite.

Wouldn’t doing so, de-value a sub. Just flip your old sub for a new sub for approximately no additional cost.

Bigblu10 · 24 October 2020, 12:07 PM

I do not like the wide proportions of the bracelet. That is the deal breaker. And since when is a dive watch supposed to be "elegant". That term is more for describing your wife dressed up for a nice dinner date.

Nikrnic · 24 October 2020, 12:27 PM

I do like the lug shape. The bracelets already big enough on the 11 so I need to try that on. I'm a big fan of the 3130. I just think its bulletproof having a 5 & 6 dgt Sub. The power reserve is nice but nbd to me having that in my DJ41. I rotate too much and have to reset anyway. My main complaint for me with my 3235 is that it really bugs me having to set the time by turning the crown backwards, aargh, I'm anal about that though and not saying it's dealbreaker. I won't part ways with either of my Subs but I am looking forward to trying the 124060 on when my AD has one to look at. Also hoping the dial doesn't appear too large. All in all it is a good move for Rolex as a new Sub was due. It also makes me appreciate my 11 more knowing its discontinued but now the new problem is I might have to add another Sub. Oh well, I always said you can't have too many divers..

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Mikichi · 24 October 2020, 12:38 PM

Like the more tapered case but prefer the old slimmer clasp.

MYBROTHERSKEEPER · 24 October 2020, 01:00 PM

Depends what you fancy? Body builder vs. Physique. One more aestheticly pleasing to look at than the other, depending who you're asking? I prefer the new case.

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101031-28 · 24 October 2020, 01:03 PM

I still prefer the 116610

Rashid.bk · 24 October 2020, 01:28 PM

Seriously, round 2??
Let it go man.

scheneider · 24 October 2020, 01:59 PM

Yes its more grown up

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Onikage · 24 October 2020, 02:24 PM

More wearable in that I would actually wear it. 5 digits were perfection of course. Rolex never should have gotten into this mess in the first place.

iTreelex · 24 October 2020, 02:28 PM

I can't help but think there is a bias right now with the 12x series. Visit this in the next 5 years and it might be different. These are all subjective points.

wisguy · 24 October 2020, 02:59 PM

Better proportioned, yes.

Elegant, no.

It's a Diver.

Gerardus · 24 October 2020, 04:18 PM

The lugs are nice on the new model. Nevertheless, I don't like the size upgrade from the bracelet and clap so much.
And I am very sceptical about the new movements seen the complaints that occasionally occur. This also from own bad experience from my former DJ41. FWIW which I bought BNIB.

View Poll Results: The new Submariner is...
More tapered	70	17.90%
More elegant	51	13.04%
More wearable	23	5.88%
All of the above	162	41.43%
None of the above	62	15.86%
Don’t know / don’t care	78	19.95%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 391. You may not vote on this poll

24 October 2020, 09:27 AM	#1
vh2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 3,017	Would you agree the new Submariner is more tapered and elegant? Having watched these videos by Revolution, I noticed they repeatedly describe the new Submariner as tapered, elegant, and “more wearable.” These seem to be common themes expressed by those who have seen, tried on, and/or purchased the new model. https://youtu.be/k4x2jqNF8s0 https://youtu.be/kdTQdo8AAno I have the new one... and I do think it looks more tapered and elegant than its predecessor. I can’t say if it’s indeed “more wearable.” So, what do you think? Is the new Sub more tapered, elegant, or wearable? [The poll allows for multiple selections.]

24 October 2020, 10:00 AM	#8
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 24,604	Yes Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 2230.50.00 Zenith 02.470.405 Henry Archer Eclipse 2FA security enabled

24 October 2020, 10:05 AM	#9
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	Submariner is not elegant. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

24 October 2020, 10:11 AM	#10
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 19,449	I can always ground down the older model's case to be more like the newer version, but you can't do the opposite. __________________ __________________ “Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow! What a Ride!'” -- Hunter S. Thompson Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

24 October 2020, 09:33 AM	#2
JSolution "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Real Name: Jay Location: England Watch: SkyD Posts: 6,238	I would say so for the case, but maybe not so for the bracelet. Just going off photos though, haven’t seen or handled either.

24 October 2020, 09:34 AM	#3
vh2k "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: USA Posts: 3,017	New one on the left; previous model on the right.

24 October 2020, 09:38 AM	#4
denmanproject "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Wayne Location: Canada Posts: 4,356	Not a fan of the new one at all

24 October 2020, 09:38 AM	#5
ronricks 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: ATL Watch: 126610LV Posts: 2,647	Tried one on last weekend. I thought it was great and clasp was noticeably bigger. Not too much of a difference for me to get rid of my 116610 though.

24 October 2020, 09:42 AM	#7
georgekart "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Earth Posts: 1,491	More tapered? Definitely. More elegant? Watch itself perhaps, but with the combination in bracelet not sure. Would have to see in person.

24 October 2020, 10:31 AM	#13
Nodzex "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA Posts: 650	All of the above!

24 October 2020, 10:31 AM	#14
Brny11 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Real Name: Brian Location: Florida Posts: 2,456	Would you agree the new Submariner is more tapered and elegant? Pretty sure it is undeniable the 12xxx has more elegance. I own a 116610 but can’t possibly believe that anyone would disagree. Is it better?... that is subjective as is wearability (as I hear they are very similar). But elegance and design are much improved on the latest iteration. Real question is elegance really what a Sub owner wants?? I’d leave that to classic line.

24 October 2020, 10:51 AM	#16
Kostas 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Australia Watch: @ kostastimepieces Posts: 5,241	I don’t mind it, they’ve made a few adjustments here and there but it wasn’t the massive change the 5 series to the 6 series was. More like an iPhone and the subsequent “s” model upgrade that follows the year after. I don’t think too many previous 6 digit owners are going to sell theirs and rush out to get the new. The movement is an upgrade, except for the teething problems a lot of users have posted about, hopefully they iron those out.

24 October 2020, 10:55 AM	#17
Tongyk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Singapore, Singap Posts: 56	Hands on with the newer one, felt the bracelet was abit too wide for my liking perhaps due to my smaller wrist. Prefer the older model. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 October 2020, 12:07 PM	#20
Bigblu10 Banned Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Jaime Location: Here Posts: 5,606	I do not like the wide proportions of the bracelet. That is the deal breaker. And since when is a dive watch supposed to be "elegant". That term is more for describing your wife dressed up for a nice dinner date.

24 October 2020, 12:27 PM	#21
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,160	I do like the lug shape. The bracelets already big enough on the 11 so I need to try that on. I'm a big fan of the 3130. I just think its bulletproof having a 5 & 6 dgt Sub. The power reserve is nice but nbd to me having that in my DJ41. I rotate too much and have to reset anyway. My main complaint for me with my 3235 is that it really bugs me having to set the time by turning the crown backwards, aargh, I'm anal about that though and not saying it's dealbreaker. I won't part ways with either of my Subs but I am looking forward to trying the 124060 on when my AD has one to look at. Also hoping the dial doesn't appear too large. All in all it is a good move for Rolex as a new Sub was due. It also makes me appreciate my 11 more knowing its discontinued but now the new problem is I might have to add another Sub. Oh well, I always said you can't have too many divers.. Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

24 October 2020, 12:38 PM	#22
Mikichi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: N/A Posts: 138	Like the more tapered case but prefer the old slimmer clasp.

24 October 2020, 01:00 PM	#23
MYBROTHERSKEEPER Banned Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: US Posts: 90	Depends what you fancy? Body builder vs. Physique. One more aestheticly pleasing to look at than the other, depending who you're asking? I prefer the new case. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk

24 October 2020, 01:03 PM	#24
101031-28 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: USA Watch: 1665 Posts: 4,741	I still prefer the 116610 __________________ He could not just wear a watch. It had to be a Rolex. Ian Fleming

24 October 2020, 01:28 PM	#25
Rashid.bk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Dallas Watch: 12800ft = 3900m Posts: 11,172	Seriously, round 2?? Let it go man.

24 October 2020, 01:59 PM	#26
scheneider "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Singapore/London Posts: 545	Yes its more grown up Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 October 2020, 02:24 PM	#27
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	More wearable in that I would actually wear it. 5 digits were perfection of course. Rolex never should have gotten into this mess in the first place. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

24 October 2020, 02:28 PM	#28
iTreelex "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Watchrecon Posts: 1,352	I can't help but think there is a bias right now with the 12x series. Visit this in the next 5 years and it might be different. These are all subjective points.

24 October 2020, 02:59 PM	#29
wisguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 2,406	Better proportioned, yes. Elegant, no. It's a Diver. __________________ 5230G / 5146G / 124060 / BB58 / '59 Constellation

24 October 2020, 04:18 PM	#30
Gerardus "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: Gerardus Location: EU Watch: ♕ Posts: 11,868	The lugs are nice on the new model. Nevertheless, I don't like the size upgrade from the bracelet and clap so much. And I am very sceptical about the new movements seen the complaints that occasionally occur. This also from own bad experience from my former DJ41. FWIW which I bought BNIB. __________________ ♕16570 ♕126610 ♕126333

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