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Lumos1301 · 2 December 2015, 10:57 PM

Hi All,

I'm a rolex owner and have recently been offered a Graham Chronofighter Diver 1000. I thought the watch looked interesting so I might purchase it. The seller has good feedback but I have a couple of concerns with the watch after research online. I was wondering if anyone here has more experience with these watches and might be able to confirm if it's genuine or replace. After the research i noticed the lever moves a little and some of the text looks slightly of, as well as the back not being engraved. If someone with more experience could confirm if this is genuine or not it would be appreciated. (Personally I think it's Fake)

Cheers

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 2 December 2015, 11:30 PM

Not a graham expert but it looks real to me

TonyD · 3 December 2015, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by anderl712000

Not a graham expert but it looks real to me

Same here. I know people will fake ANYTHING but it seems odd to make a high quality fake of such an obscure watch.

Lumos1301 · 3 December 2015, 12:48 AM

I've read online that the copies of this watches are very good and theres only a few small differences. If you look closely at the SWISS MADE you can see it's not centred properly. This is my biggest concern, as a watch of this value shouldn't have bodged test ….

hunterp27 · 3 December 2015, 02:16 AM

Pardner, I have no idea if that's a real Graham or not since it's not something ya see much. The old saying "buy the seller" is an absolute in this scenario. The one thing that makes me lean towards "authentic" on this watch, is the caseback is stamped with an anchor and that stamping looks to be of very high quality.........but that's a flimsy reason. Where is the watch? Can you see it real time before purchase?

Lumos1301 · 3 December 2015, 02:28 AM

Hi, thanks for your input. My concern with the back is the others i've seen have the text engraved. I have the watch in hand at the moment. The buyer has good feedback and a history of selling watches. But my main concerns remain. The trigger moves and the SWISS MADE is off centre which on a watch which cost a few thousand, is unusual I would have thought?!

hunterp27 · 3 December 2015, 02:38 AM

Can't you take it somewhere and have it authenticated?

Lumos1301 · 3 December 2015, 02:48 AM

It's proving difficult where I live as there are no AD's local. I have one Watch Shop whom I have sent pictures to. Looks like I might have to travel in to London.

dstacy · 3 December 2015, 03:27 AM

Take a look at the spacing on these:

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Lumos1301 · 3 December 2015, 03:40 AM

So would you agree the spacing is wrong thus it's fake also to reset text is in black

dstacy · 3 December 2015, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Lumos1301

So would you agree the spacing is wrong thus it's fake also to reset text is in black

No sir, I didn't say that, nor would I agree to that. I am in no way qualified to make that call. There are some armchair experts here who might. I merely provided a couple of pictures so you could look for yourself.
If it was me, and since you have the watch in hand, I'd make the effort to go see a qualified professional.
I hope it works out for you.

madmole · 3 December 2015, 04:10 AM

The replica's of this are extremely accurate, Someone has coloured in the text on Reset with a felt tip it looks like. The spacing on the reserve is per spec and the fakes have the engraving on the back very well done as well

Definitely need to get it checked. The reps even have the movement pretty well done as well

nick c · 3 December 2015, 08:46 AM

The back doesn't look good

Lumos1301 · 5 December 2015, 03:04 AM

Hi all, thanks for all your input. As suspected the watch was a fake. Thanks for all your help.

Knappo 1307 · 5 December 2015, 03:35 AM

What's the can opener, attached to the side? Or is that a pull pin, like for a grenade? Seems very cumbersome...

cajunron · 7 December 2015, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

What's the can opener, attached to the side? Or is that a pull pin, like for a grenade? Seems very cumbersome...

Ha! I know, right?

2 December 2015, 11:30 PM	#2
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Not a graham expert but it looks real to me __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

3 December 2015, 12:48 AM	#4
Lumos1301 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Hertfordshire Watch: 116660 - 116505 - Posts: 92	I've read online that the copies of this watches are very good and theres only a few small differences. If you look closely at the SWISS MADE you can see it's not centred properly. This is my biggest concern, as a watch of this value shouldn't have bodged test ….

3 December 2015, 02:16 AM	#5
hunterp27 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: JHP Location: Fairview, TX Watch: WG 18039 Day/Date Posts: 789	Pardner, I have no idea if that's a real Graham or not since it's not something ya see much. The old saying "buy the seller" is an absolute in this scenario. The one thing that makes me lean towards "authentic" on this watch, is the caseback is stamped with an anchor and that stamping looks to be of very high quality.........but that's a flimsy reason. Where is the watch? Can you see it real time before purchase?

3 December 2015, 02:28 AM	#6
Lumos1301 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Hertfordshire Watch: 116660 - 116505 - Posts: 92	Hi, thanks for your input. My concern with the back is the others i've seen have the text engraved. I have the watch in hand at the moment. The buyer has good feedback and a history of selling watches. But my main concerns remain. The trigger moves and the SWISS MADE is off centre which on a watch which cost a few thousand, is unusual I would have thought?!

3 December 2015, 02:38 AM	#7
hunterp27 Banned Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: JHP Location: Fairview, TX Watch: WG 18039 Day/Date Posts: 789	Can't you take it somewhere and have it authenticated?

3 December 2015, 02:48 AM	#8
Lumos1301 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Hertfordshire Watch: 116660 - 116505 - Posts: 92	It's proving difficult where I live as there are no AD's local. I have one Watch Shop whom I have sent pictures to. Looks like I might have to travel in to London.

3 December 2015, 03:40 AM	#10
Lumos1301 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Hertfordshire Watch: 116660 - 116505 - Posts: 92	So would you agree the spacing is wrong thus it's fake also to reset text is in black

3 December 2015, 04:10 AM	#12
madmole "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: Stephen Location: London Watch: 116610LN Posts: 115	The replica's of this are extremely accurate, Someone has coloured in the text on Reset with a felt tip it looks like. The spacing on the reserve is per spec and the fakes have the engraving on the back very well done as well Definitely need to get it checked. The reps even have the movement pretty well done as well

3 December 2015, 08:46 AM	#13
nick c Banned Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 26,846	The back doesn't look good

5 December 2015, 03:04 AM	#14
Lumos1301 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: Hertfordshire Watch: 116660 - 116505 - Posts: 92	Hi all, thanks for all your input. As suspected the watch was a fake. Thanks for all your help.

5 December 2015, 03:35 AM	#15
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,557	What's the can opener, attached to the side? Or is that a pull pin, like for a grenade? Seems very cumbersome...

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