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Old 4 October 2012, 11:32 PM   #1
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SCAMMER - JOEL SAM aka Bunchana Narachit www.brandforums.info - please BEWARE!!

Everyone, please do not deal with someone with the email of joel.sam13@gmail.com as he has scammed me out of $9,000. He goes by the name JOE SAM although his PayPal name is BUNCHANA NARACHIT. Here is my story:

I have been looking for a Panerai PAM 382 Bronzo for quite some time. About 6 weeks ago I agreed to pay this guy $18,500 for his Bronzo. He seemed legitimate - he has a website: www.brandforums.info which seemed very real and legitimate. He sells high end purses and watches on his website and uses Instagram a great deal where he has some positive feedback. Still my plan was to send the entire $18,500 via PayPal but PayPal only allows $9000 per transaction. So I sent $9000 via PayPal and waited.

Joel or Bunchana (or whatever his real name is) claimed it took awhile to get the money from PayPal (even though he had a PayPal confirmed address). So after lots of emails I wired him the second $9500 payment. That was my big mistake! Once the wire was received he disappeared on me and a week went by with no word from him. I set up a Dispute Resolution with PayPal.

About a week later he emailed me and said the watch was shipped. He sent me a tracking number which was not valid. At this point I demanded he refund me all payments, which he said he would do - but then claimed he was limited to sending $1500 per transaction out of Thailand. I could not verify that anywhere. No monies were received in my account. Fortunately PayPal has sent me back the initial $9,000 payment. Just wish I had sent it all via PayPal.

Joel or Bunchana has stopped communicating with me again. I write this because he has an internet business with lots of watches listed. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS GUY! If I do hear from him again and on the off chance he sends me my money or the watch - I will update you.

I have also begun an investigation with the Bangkok police and I am thinking about contacting Interpol.

Any other help would be appreciated !

best, Marc
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Old 5 October 2012, 12:01 AM   #2
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I would reach out to Interpol if that can help but any means necessary. Sorry for your loss and hope you can find some resolution with this scammer...
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Old 5 October 2012, 12:10 AM   #3
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Sorry to hear this. Wish you the best in recovering your money and shutting this guy down.
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Old 5 October 2012, 01:05 AM   #4
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Oh LAwrd!!! Did you just say his from Bangkok?
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Old 5 October 2012, 01:19 AM   #5
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Sorry to hear it and thanks for the warning.
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Old 5 October 2012, 01:48 AM   #6
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Sorry to hear. I would pull out ALL the stops to get this guy. That's an awful lot of money. Keep us posted.
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Old 5 October 2012, 01:53 AM   #7
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His pic of the Rolex 18K YG President 1803 Tiffany and Co Green Stella Dial is lifted right from Jacek's sight too....and he happens to be charging the same amount of money for it too. Knew that pic looked familiar because not many green stella dials with an orange strap around. Obvious scam.
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Old 5 October 2012, 02:12 AM   #8
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Just did a little research and went to this scumbags website. The watches he has listed (at least some if not all) are stolen directly from Jacek. They are Jaceks pictures and the scumbag has even used Jackes words directly from the ad. We need to shut this guy DOWN. What a total POS. God, I wish I could just have 5 minutes alone with this guy.
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Old 5 October 2012, 02:28 AM   #9
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So sorry to hear this happed to you. Please keep us updated once you talk with interpol. I would like nothing more than to see this scumbag caught for scamming you out of your hard earned money.
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Old 5 October 2012, 02:48 AM   #10
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Oh LAwrd!!! Did you just say his from Bangkok?
x2....ouch.... Sorry
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Old 5 October 2012, 03:03 AM   #11
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Just went to the website, and it is full of misspelled words. Before I'm sending 18K anywhere I'm doing some serious research. Again sorry, hope you get your cash back.
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Old 5 October 2012, 04:30 AM   #12
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Sorry to hear this. Don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but it's going to be difficult to get that money back... People can easily disappear in Thailand, not to mention Bangkok! (Anyone who's been there know what I'm talking about)

Keeping fingers crossed.
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Old 5 October 2012, 05:00 AM   #13
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Sorry to hear and I hope you recover the missing funds. I wish more folks would find this place before they send their hard earned cash abroad. Great trustworthy sellers here that can find you almost anything you desire.
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Old 5 October 2012, 05:14 AM   #14
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Here is the Whois.net

http://www.whois.net/whois/brandforums.info

Billing Name:Bunchana Narachit
Billing Organization:Bunchana
Billing Street1:115/2 Soi Boonyu,Dindang Rd,Samsennai,Phayathai,Bangkok 10400
Billing Street2:
Billing Street3:
Billing City:Phayathai
Billing State/Province:BKK
Billing Postal Code:10400
Billing Country:TH
Billing Phone:+66.853221004
Billing Phone Ext.:
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Old 5 October 2012, 05:36 AM   #15
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You sent $18.5k to Thailand? To someone you don't know?

Wow.
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Old 5 October 2012, 05:57 AM   #16
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I hope you get this piece of trash soon!
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Old 5 October 2012, 06:30 AM   #17
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I write this because he has an internet business with lots of watches listed.
best, Marc
I find it hard to believe that you would call this a business. I am sorry about you losing a large amount of money. I really am. But this is NOT a business. Not a legitimate one anyway. This is a smokescreen designed to take advantage of unsuspecting victims. To call it an internet business is ludicrous. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
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Old 5 October 2012, 06:36 AM   #18
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Here is the Whois.net

http://www.whois.net/whois/brandforums.info

Billing Name:Bunchana Narachit
Billing Organization:Bunchana
Billing Street1:115/2 Soi Boonyu,Dindang Rd,Samsennai,Phayathai,Bangkok 10400

Billing Phone:+66.853221004
Billing Phone Ext.:
This is good information. I will provide it to the authorities. Thanks NYMIKE!

LGear - I thought I had checked him out. My mistake was not using PayPal for the entire amount. PayPal is great ! of course in hindsight I do feel like an idiot....
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Old 5 October 2012, 10:46 AM   #19
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G'luck - $9500 wiser now I know, but glad it wasn't the whole enchilada.
What I don't get is a scammer who leaves the first deposit in his PP account?
But at least you got it back
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Old 5 October 2012, 02:14 PM   #20
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It's good we have a watchout section here- I have learnt never to buy $$$ items off the internet and only through the trusted sellers here
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Old 7 October 2012, 01:06 PM   #21
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You sent $18.5k to Thailand? To someone you don't know?

Wow.

Wow is right!

Im not trying to kick you while you're down but I don't understand how anyone could wire that much cash to someone they've never met / done business with before and most importantly is not located in the US.

Thankfully you used Paypal for the first $9k so you were able to get some of your money back. Good luck OP!


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Old 7 October 2012, 01:13 PM   #22
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Sorry to hear about this. I hope things work out for you.
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Old 7 October 2012, 02:38 PM   #23
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Man that is awful, hope you get your money back.
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Old 7 October 2012, 04:51 PM   #24
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Terrible I hope it works out.
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Old 12 April 2013, 02:00 PM   #25
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Everyone, please do not deal with someone with the email of joel.sam13@gmail.com as he has scammed me out of $9,000. He goes by the name JOE SAM although his PayPal name is BUNCHANA NARACHIT. Here is my story:

I have been looking for a Panerai PAM 382 Bronzo for quite some time. About 6 weeks ago I agreed to pay this guy $18,500 for his Bronzo. He seemed legitimate - he has a website: www.brandforums.info which seemed very real and legitimate. He sells high end purses and watches on his website and uses Instagram a great deal where he has some positive feedback. Still my plan was to send the entire $18,500 via PayPal but PayPal only allows $9000 per transaction. So I sent $9000 via PayPal and waited.

Joel or Bunchana (or whatever his real name is) claimed it took awhile to get the money from PayPal (even though he had a PayPal confirmed address). So after lots of emails I wired him the second $9500 payment. That was my big mistake! Once the wire was received he disappeared on me and a week went by with no word from him. I set up a Dispute Resolution with PayPal.

About a week later he emailed me and said the watch was shipped. He sent me a tracking number which was not valid. At this point I demanded he refund me all payments, which he said he would do - but then claimed he was limited to sending $1500 per transaction out of Thailand. I could not verify that anywhere. No monies were received in my account. Fortunately PayPal has sent me back the initial $9,000 payment. Just wish I had sent it all via PayPal.

Joel or Bunchana has stopped communicating with me again. I write this because he has an internet business with lots of watches listed. DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS GUY! If I do hear from him again and on the off chance he sends me my money or the watch - I will update you.

I have also begun an investigation with the Bangkok police and I am thinking about contacting Interpol.

Any other help would be appreciated !

best, Marc
Contender, I got scammed by her too(it's a her not a him at least the person I was involved with, I mean it might be a team) I sent you a private message if there is anything I can do to help.
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Old 6 October 2022, 01:48 PM   #26
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I know this happened along time ago but what was the final result? I got screwed by her too and willing to do more investigating.
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