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pp763 · 19 November 2011, 06:49 AM

I remember when it was released back in 2004 for about £3000 if I remember correctly. I was desperate for a steel datejust with the new concealed clasp jubilee but there was only the the turn o graph that had it at the time and I just couldn't buy one I hated it and still do. Why do americans call it the thunderbird by the way?

mtrunner · 19 November 2011, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pp763

I remember when it was released back in 2004 for about £3000 if I remember correctly. I was desperate for a steel datejust with the new concealed clasp jubilee but there was only the the turn o graph that had it at the time and I just couldn't buy one I hated it and still do. Why do americans call it the thunderbird by the way?

From what I have read the TOG was introduced in 1955 as an award given to US Air Force pilots returning from combat missions. The US Air Force has an exhibition flight team called the Thunderbirds that was started in the 50s and I believe the name was taken from that.

The GMT Master · 19 November 2011, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TTmax

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Chris, how do you explain that TOG is in the user (not master) catalog 2011/2012 ? This catalog isn't even arrived in AD's shops .

Sad new if confirmed, but doesn't bother me too much as I have mine ...

PS:

As I'm a french person, my name is Christophe , not Christopher ...

We had a visit from our rep, who had a copy of the new master catalogue, and pointed out the lack of TOG - we've not received our copy just yet, although I believe it is on its way. As for the user catalogue, I can't explain that - maybe it is covering the final rundown of stock?

kokota · 19 November 2011, 07:07 AM

It was my first Rolex. Still have it and love it!

Very versatile

Robert Henley · 19 November 2011, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by The GMT Master

We had a visit from our rep, who had a copy of the new master catalogue, and pointed out the lack of TOG - we've not received our copy just yet, although I believe it is on its way. As for the user catalogue, I can't explain that - maybe it is covering the final rundown of stock?

I mentioned in another recent post on the same subject that my AD showed me the catalog, and the Turn-O-Graph was not in it. He told me it was discountinued.

Lisa · 19 November 2011, 08:31 AM

A bit of history about the origin of the TOG... the link contains clickable text that tells a little more about the modern-day version.

http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2008/10...n-o-graph.html

MoBe · 19 November 2011, 08:34 AM

I thought the TOG would be my next Rolex,now I have to rethink

Lisa · 19 November 2011, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MoBe

I thought the TOG would be my next Rolex,now I have to rethink

Go vintage.

TSW · 19 November 2011, 08:36 AM

Chris is correct the TOG isn't in the 2011-2012 Master Catalogue.

The Joker · 19 November 2011, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MoBe

I thought the TOG would be my next Rolex,now I have to rethink

Why, it's an awesome watch and discontinued Rolex's are normally sought after, so get it now.

Once they're gone, they're gone (Profound I know)

The GMT Master · 19 November 2011, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert Henley

I mentioned in another recent post on the same subject that my AD showed me the catalog, and the Turn-O-Graph was not in it. He told me it was discountinued.

Ahh, knew I'd read about it somewhere on here too, thanks

GradyPhilpott · 19 November 2011, 09:06 AM

I hate to see it go.

Not that I'd have ever bought one.

It's just that I think that it's a beautiful and practical piece.

So long, TOG!

00pumpkin · 19 November 2011, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by want to be

It will be new @ 41mm!

Im a buyer there!

Fredwatch · 19 November 2011, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by MoBe

I thought the TOG would be my next Rolex,now I have to rethink

After getting the white dial TOG, I love it so much that I told myself I would get the black dial version within the next 2 years to pair it up. Now my plan no longer works

ayres · 19 November 2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan Pierce

A sad day for bezel fiddlers everywhere. :-(
dP

x2

could not have put it any better, myself.

mmmmp · 19 November 2011, 09:34 AM

Oh well, t'was bound to happen if it was such a poor seller. It's the best/coolest Rolex I've ever owned. I will cherish it more than ever. Best, Mark.

sierra11b · 19 November 2011, 09:38 AM

You still have time.

In fact, when I talked to my AD he said his Rolex rep said he could get a few of the styles still, some he could not.

There's always pre-loved. Talk with DavidSW or the other reputable sellers here asap.

I can see why it needs to go based on it being a slower seller... those non-wis would rather get a sports watch or go for a dressier DJ. Too bad us WIS who realized the important place the watch played in being dress-versatile and historical are greatly outnumbered.

Singslinger · 19 November 2011, 10:02 AM

It was a very nice design - especially with the red trimmings - but at 36mm perhaps too small for today's tastes.

If only if had been upsized to 39mm...

FremStar · 19 November 2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FremStar

Damn! Thanks for the re-confirmation Chris, I was hoping Mr. Rudiger Albers (VP-Wempe) was wrong and Christophe (TRF) was right... Truly sad... I will follow up with customary pictures when I get home...

Rudy is actually the President of Wempe, apologies sir for my typo... Now for the customary pics of Madonna (my TOG)... Just out and about in the city, on the West Side Highway and San Juan PR... Still sad to see her discontinued, however, as the saying goes... All good things must come to an end...

dddrees · 22 November 2011, 02:27 AM

That's to bad, I thought the Tog looked kinda neat.

Thanks for the heads up Chris.

Timber Loftis · 22 November 2011, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rolexplorer2

One thing i did like about the TOG was the red second hand and the red date.

Totally love the roulette wheel. I also like fiddly bezels.

Fifth Ave Rolex Man · 22 November 2011, 03:29 AM

I thought the newly designed TOG was a big improvement
over the ol' T-Bird, and somehow more handsome too!
I'll miss the sucker!

LightOnAHill · 22 November 2011, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by want to be

It will be new @ 41mm!

THAT'D BE SWEEEEET!!!

Dr. Robert · 22 November 2011, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pp763

I remember when it was released back in 2004 for about £3000 if I remember correctly. I was desperate for a steel datejust with the new concealed clasp jubilee but there was only the the turn o graph that had it at the time and I just couldn't buy one I hated it and still do. Why do americans call it the thunderbird by the way?

Hans Wilsdorf was fond of a pleasant, little, unpretentious American wine....."Thunderbird"

Onikage · 22 November 2011, 04:08 AM

Forgive me chaps, but what is the difference between the Datejust and the Datejust Tog? I know the bezel markings but then there is the engine turned bezel Datejust which also has similar markings. Is it just the pointy second hand and the red bits? Allow me to get my flame proof underwear please.

MoBe · 22 November 2011, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Robert

Hans Wilsdorf was fond of a pleasant, little, unpretentious American wine....."Thunderbird"

A long gone relative of mine used to drink the stuff,nobody else could.

For some reason the drink is the thing I associate first with the word Thunderbird.

Danand · 22 November 2011, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Forgive me chaps, but what is the difference between the Datejust and the Datejust Tog? I know the bezel markings but then there is the engine turned bezel Datejust which also has similar markings. Is it just the pointy second hand and the red bits? Allow me to get my flame proof underwear please.

The TOG bezel rotates, either direction. So it is a timing bezel. As opposed to fixed bezel dj's.
Personally I'm not a fan of them. I really do not like the feel of the bezel-there are no indents (clicks) and it feels as if it is just a bezel that has loosened up. Also the fluted and engine turned bezels are my least favorite, as well as not liking jubilee bracelets. I guess for me there wasn much to like. Oh well, to each their own.

Onikage · 22 November 2011, 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Danand

The TOG bezel rotates, either direction. So it is a timing bezel. As opposed to fixed bezel dj's.
Personally I'm not a fan of them. I really do not like the feel of the bezel-there are no indents (clicks) and it feels as if it is just a bezel that has loosened up. Also the fluted and engine turned bezels are my least favorite, as well as not liking jubilee bracelets. I guess for me there wasn much to like. Oh well, to each their own.

Ahah, thanks for that. I've seen them at ADs but never handled one.

rocco1109 · 22 November 2011, 08:41 AM

Glad I got one!

Hodog16 · 22 November 2011, 12:37 PM

Have always liked the blue-faced oyster TOG since I got into Rolex's back around 2005. I was happy to be able to get one last month for the 2006 price

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Never understood why the watch wasn't more popular, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

19 November 2011, 08:36 AM	#39
TSW "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: TSW Location: Le Brassus Watch: Rolex & AP's Posts: 27,449	Chris is correct the TOG isn't in the 2011-2012 Master Catalogue. __________________ AP Owners Club IG @swiss.watch.connection

19 November 2011, 09:06 AM	#42
GradyPhilpott 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: 116710 BLNR Posts: 34,347	I hate to see it go. Not that I'd have ever bought one. It's just that I think that it's a beautiful and practical piece. So long, TOG! __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

22 November 2011, 02:27 AM	#50
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	That's to bad, I thought the Tog looked kinda neat. Thanks for the heads up Chris. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

22 November 2011, 04:08 AM	#55
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,758	Forgive me chaps, but what is the difference between the Datejust and the Datejust Tog? I know the bezel markings but then there is the engine turned bezel Datejust which also has similar markings. Is it just the pointy second hand and the red bits? Allow me to get my flame proof underwear please. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

22 November 2011, 08:41 AM	#59
rocco1109 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Real Name: Will Location: Colorado USA Posts: 544	I've heard the same thing from two other well-informed sources Glad I got one!

19 November 2011, 06:49 AM	#31
pp763 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: U.K Watch: 116610LN Posts: 121	I remember when it was released back in 2004 for about £3000 if I remember correctly. I was desperate for a steel datejust with the new concealed clasp jubilee but there was only the the turn o graph that had it at the time and I just couldn't buy one I hated it and still do. Why do americans call it the thunderbird by the way?

19 November 2011, 07:07 AM	#34
kokota 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 1,276	It was my first Rolex. Still have it and love it! Very versatile

19 November 2011, 08:31 AM	#36
Lisa "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: oklahoma city Posts: 15,741	A bit of history about the origin of the TOG... the link contains clickable text that tells a little more about the modern-day version. http://www.hodinkee.com/blog/2008/10...n-o-graph.html

19 November 2011, 08:34 AM	#37
MoBe "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 6,773	I thought the TOG would be my next Rolex,now I have to rethink

19 November 2011, 09:34 AM	#46
mmmmp "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Real Name: Mark P Location: Toronto Watch: SS Wimbledon DJ41 Posts: 2,046	Oh well, t'was bound to happen if it was such a poor seller. It's the best/coolest Rolex I've ever owned. I will cherish it more than ever. Best, Mark.

19 November 2011, 09:38 AM	#47
sierra11b "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Eric Location: California Watch: MkXVIII, 3570.50 Posts: 1,966	You still have time. In fact, when I talked to my AD he said his Rolex rep said he could get a few of the styles still, some he could not. There's always pre-loved. Talk with DavidSW or the other reputable sellers here asap. I can see why it needs to go based on it being a slower seller... those non-wis would rather get a sports watch or go for a dressier DJ. Too bad us WIS who realized the important place the watch played in being dress-versatile and historical are greatly outnumbered.

19 November 2011, 10:02 AM	#48
Singslinger "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: singapore Posts: 6,424	It was a very nice design - especially with the red trimmings - but at 36mm perhaps too small for today's tastes. If only if had been upsized to 39mm...

22 November 2011, 03:29 AM	#52
Fifth Ave Rolex Man Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: NYC area Watch: 16520A30 Posts: 538	I thought the newly designed TOG was a big improvement over the ol' T-Bird, and somehow more handsome too! I'll miss the sucker!

22 November 2011, 12:37 PM	#60
Hodog16 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: NC Watch: RG Olive DD40 Posts: 1,712	Have always liked the blue-faced oyster TOG since I got into Rolex's back around 2005. I was happy to be able to get one last month for the 2006 price . Never understood why the watch wasn't more popular, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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