New 42mm Offshores with Integrated Flyback

[ks58]

I wonder how these sit on the wrist and if it's too chunky/bulky or not. I like the baby blue one, and fine with the case size mm, but wonder the height.

[Uros]

15.2mm height is a lot, will be very hard not to get nasty scratches.

Love the retro feel and traditional dial layout…


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[Xerxes77]

That blue it’s fantastic….. unfortunately blue rubber pushers

[Soondooboo]

Why are they so fat though? 15.2M? COME ON AP

[macrowatch]

Originally Posted by Soondooboo

Why are they so fat though? 15.2M? COME ON AP

I think unfortunately it's done intentionally for atheistic purposes since they've shown in other models that they can also go thin.

[911AP]

Honestly the ROO would be amazing if it was 2" thinner or so. It really is too thick. That doesn't stop me from wearing a 44mm though. But I always thought a 42-43mm that was 2" thinner would be the perfect ROO.

[Reign]

Originally Posted by macrowatch

I think unfortunately it's done intentionally for atheistic purposes since they've shown in other models that they can also go thin.

Apparently the extra height is due to another plate they’ve added to adjust the in house movement to a 6,9,12 layout vs the base caliber being a 3,6,9 layout.

Regardless, 15 is getting into very chunky land


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[AK797]

Originally Posted by Mbbgysam

Photo must be in a SGD... it's USD $59,100 / GBP £52,800 which is equally insane given that the previous generation rose gold diver 15711OI is only $37,400. I feel like the price is either wrong or you're getting more than just the watch for that $$$

£53K? I got my RG Nautilus for nearly half that price... watch inflation is thru the roof.

[watchucallit]

When are these new pieces actually going to be available ? I did not not see an estimate

[ialienam]

Any one expect to get one of those 42mm?
I spoke to my boutique yesterday, SA cant give an ETA but only said even Offshore is very difficult to get these days..

My last AP purchase was last year, didn’t know even a regular offshore is hard to get now.

I am looking at the 42mm blue dial with rubber and maybe purchase an additional steel bracelet.

[edo]

First live pics...

[dauster]

Originally Posted by edo

First live pics...

looks great, I like the homage to the OG ROO, titanium is great too. 44k with tax though I'm out.

[AperolSpritz]

Originally Posted by Soondooboo

Why are they so fat though? 15.2M? COME ON AP

AP has been improving its movements recently as we all know.
New movement for 15500, new chrono movement developed for the Code and rolled progressively to ROC and they also got rid of the Dubois Dépraz module.

UNFORTUNATELY, each time it did increase thickness...

[AperolSpritz]

forgot to mention the Dubois Dépraz module was relevant for the ROO... so again thicker but integrated. And the ROO is now rocking a flyback.

[Xerxes77]

Blue with strap…

[Toffeeman]

This one will be long queue. No?

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by dauster

looks great, I like the homage to the OG ROO, titanium is great too. 44k with tax though I'm out.

Hm, before tax it's $10k more than I paid for the Beast anniversary edition a year ago. The Horoloupe picture looks great, but given that the old model looks basically the same (w/o the odd ring around the date window), one must really love the flyback chrono to consider this a good deal.

[10XRolex]

I agree. I have the "Beast" and I am digging the new titanium but at that price; yikes.

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Hm, before tax it's $10k more than I paid for the Beast anniversary edition a year ago. The Horoloupe picture looks great, but given that the old model looks basically the same (w/o the odd ring around the date window), one must really love the flyback chrono to consider this a good deal.

[AperolSpritz]

Not long ago you could get basically any steel ROO on grey at c.USD15k...
AP has increased prices crazy over the last 4 years.

[AperolSpritz]

am fine with that by the way - just that, coupled with basically anything being unavailable - just hope they are not going to fall in the "arrogant" bucket...
Wheels do turn in time.

[Reign]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Hm, before tax it's $10k more than I paid for the Beast anniversary edition a year ago. The Horoloupe picture looks great, but given that the old model looks basically the same (w/o the odd ring around the date window), one must really love the flyback chrono to consider this a good deal.

Ignoring secondary market pricing, at Patek 5980/1A is $53k retail.

Comparing in house chrono to in house chrono, this 20% under that company. I’m surprised AP didn’t increase the price more when switching to their in house integrated chronos - they definitely could and people would buy it but the small uptick for a substantial upgrade is reasonable


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[dauster]

Originally Posted by Reign

Ignoring secondary market pricing, at Patek 5980/1A is $53k retail.

Comparing in house chrono to in house chrono, this 20% under that company. I’m surprised AP didn’t increase the price more when switching to their in house integrated chronos - they definitely could and people would buy it but the small uptick for a substantial upgrade is reasonable


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To me it might have the same functionality but comparing these two the PP is in another universe

[joewang1988]

Oh wow these are dope

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by Reign

Ignoring secondary market pricing, at Patek 5980/1A is $53k retail.

Comparing in house chrono to in house chrono, this 20% under that company. I’m surprised AP didn’t increase the price more when switching to their in house integrated chronos - they definitely could and people would buy it but the small uptick for a substantial upgrade is reasonable

Whether one considers $10k (33%) a "small uptick" may be a matter of perspective

I do however agree that contrary to popular opinion e.g. the Code chronos are priced about right or even a bit low vs comparable watches from PP or ALS.

[squall1]

My SA gave me a head's up that I could come and try these (or a subset of them) in October...she wasn't more specific than that and wasn't clear if they would be demo models or actual product for purchase. Will report back when I get the call to come check them out.

[Mini2]

Originally Posted by VogelPhoenix

Whether one considers $10k (33%) a "small uptick" may be a matter of perspective

I do however agree that contrary to popular opinion e.g. the Code chronos are priced about right or even a bit low vs comparable watches from PP or ALS.

Problem with code is you can buy them from greys with 20/25% discount - model specific

[Tomas Eriksson]

Originally Posted by robertengel

Drives me nuts that the date wheel on the blue doesn't match the dial....the others match

It's true to the original 25721ST. A white date-wheel makes sense on a sports watch, it's so much more legible. Some of us actually prefers it

[Watchflair]

Some in person pics from a visit to the NYC boutique last week - marketing pieces.







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[Mini2]

Originally Posted by Watchflair

Some in person pics from a visit to the NYC boutique last week - marketing pieces.







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I like them all but loving the 3rd picture
so they must be out already

[watchucallit]

if they are marketing pieces does not mean they are out yet