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Old 12 September 2021, 09:45 AM   #1
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Brand New 41mm RO Frosted Releases

I love both of these! I just saw them on the website. $73,200 each
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Old 12 September 2021, 10:09 AM   #2
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I love the frosted rose gold but it will be very hard to acquire.
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Old 12 September 2021, 11:53 PM   #3
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I love the frosted rose gold but it will be very hard to acquire.
Sounds like it will be available in Japan first, then US market around October.
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Old 14 September 2021, 04:23 AM   #4
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good luck getting these super tough one to get I bet... how is your relationship with AP?
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Old 14 September 2021, 03:12 PM   #5
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Rose gold it’s best….. will be hard but I will have it
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Old 15 September 2021, 01:17 PM   #6
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Japan first?

That means we will barely get a few a year in the US.

Not even worth listing on their website, honestly.
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Old 15 September 2021, 01:28 PM   #7
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Japan first?

That means we will barely get a few a year in the US.

Not even worth listing on their website, honestly.

Why list anything, really?
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Old 15 September 2021, 01:29 PM   #8
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Why list anything, really?


Maybe the CODE's. And some ROO's.
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Old 15 September 2021, 10:01 PM   #9
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If any grey markets dealers get their hands on them in the US, I'm sure they will fetch over $200,000.
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Old 16 September 2021, 12:49 AM   #10
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If any grey markets dealers get their hands on them in the US, I'm sure they will fetch over $200,000.

The blame doesn’t lie solely with the gray market dealers. There is plenty of blame to go around in this current reality when everybody’s incentives are messed up.

I’ll repeat it again - There is little incentive for an AD to sell a customer a hot watch when they can make a lot more money elsewhere. There is little incentive for a new customer to keep a hot watch when they can either make a lot of easy money, or they need to buy stuff to get to the level of attaining what they’ve wanted all along.

Until that cycle is broken, the grays will thrive and they are simply providing a service. A valuable service that is necessary for the overall strength of the watch market, in my view.


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Old 16 September 2021, 03:22 AM   #11
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Has anyone seen the frosted bracelets in the flesh? Are they flashy or a bit more subtle? Hard to tell from photos.
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Old 16 September 2021, 03:56 AM   #12
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Has anyone seen the frosted bracelets in the flesh? Are they flashy or a bit more subtle? Hard to tell from photos.
The rose gold frosted looks darker IRL. The frosting seems to absorb the light. I've only see it on a ladies model though.

The white gold isn't anywhere near as bling IRL as first impressions may suggest from pics. Again, it's all about light conditions. Under the lights it sparkles intensely. I've only seen the purple chrono white gold model, it was on my radar a couple of years back, but I decided that it was too flashy for me, even though it wasn't as flashy as I expected.
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Old 16 September 2021, 04:54 AM   #13
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The blame doesn’t lie solely with the gray market dealers. There is plenty of blame to go around in this current reality when everybody’s incentives are messed up.

I’ll repeat it again - There is little incentive for an AD to sell a customer a hot watch when they can make a lot more money elsewhere. There is little incentive for a new customer to keep a hot watch when they can either make a lot of easy money, or they need to buy stuff to get to the level of attaining what they’ve wanted all along.

Until that cycle is broken, the grays will thrive and they are simply providing a service. A valuable service that is necessary for the overall strength of the watch market, in my view.


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Well stated my friend! Also, it appears that these two models are not limited editions - I'll still assume that very few will be produced each year.
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Old 16 September 2021, 05:21 AM   #14
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If any grey markets dealers get their hands on them in the US, I'm sure they will fetch over $200,000.
Unfortunately very true, but there are too many people willing to pay whatever the price may be. See Richard Mille for example.. buying at boutique is impossible and grey market with 300-600% upmark is the only way of getting one on your wrist.
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I saw the white gold version at the boutique. Totally not my style but tried it on just for fun. The frosted gold was not as shiny as I thought it would be and in certain lighting, it looked muted. The photo below was taken under direct lighting, but in most lighting situations, the surface does not look this shiny.




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Old 18 September 2021, 10:03 AM   #16
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Has anyone ever seen this watch in person? Limited to 70 pieces, but I really seem to like it.

Just curious how heavy the gold 41mm versions are compared to the steel versions.
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