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Old 25 February 2019, 05:48 AM   #121
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The OP’s conversational skills appear to be as good as Dr. Christopher Duntschs surgical skills.

Ancient Chinese saying. “He who acts like a asshat gets treated like an asshat!”


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Old 27 February 2019, 10:02 AM   #122
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That was like maybe not a story that made the point that like you might have intended.
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Old 27 February 2019, 10:30 AM   #123
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Wow! Tough crowd today.
Sure is.

Something in my parachrom tells me perhaps the OP embellished what actually went down. If that’s the case and he’s read the responses, he’s unlikely to do so again - I hope.

Or we’ve been trolled!
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Old 27 February 2019, 10:39 AM   #124
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there was another thread once where some guy was in an AD and the AD asked to see his watch that he had on, and the AD handled it without gloves. OP had a fit
I remember that, that one had me in fits of laughter too.
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Old 27 February 2019, 10:40 AM   #125
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That’s bloody unacceptable
I know, he didn’t even make an appointment to visit.
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Old 27 February 2019, 11:19 AM   #126
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Point taken. And I will assume that the OP is accurately recounting his novel attempt to charm the AD, and his talent as a conversationalist.

However, call me skeptical.

And on balance, my opinion is that unverified anecdotes which focus on immigration status, country of origin or ethnicity are ripe for stereotype perpetuation and fake news.

Substitute another country of origin or ethnicity for Chinese. Put a different alleged ethnic self characterization in the saleslady's repertoire, and imagine the possibilities.

Just my opinion.
Did you say, "fake news"??? I'm TRIGGERED!!! JK

I see your point though. I cringed a bit when the OP brought up race, though I do see Adam's point, that there is some relevance to the story.

With my significant other being an immigrant, I'm a bit sensitive to it. At the same time, I know that's just my feelings and rarely a persons intention.


Both parties in this case could have treated the other with a bit more respect.

I've been treated like a "peasant" by an AD in the past. I simply ended the conversation with that individual and continued looking. When I wanted to see something, I went to his coworker. That says it all, without saying a word.
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Old 27 February 2019, 11:42 AM   #127
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I can't imagine working in a Rolex AD these days. I bet after every 3rd customer the associate is ready to go eat a cyanide salad. "Do you have any Daytonas?".

I sometimes actually start the conversation that way and then just start cracking up.... When they see I know how ridiculous that statement is they usually join in for the laugh. Sometimes I make a friend and sometimes I don't, but now either way I know the kind of person I'm dealing with and I move forward, or move on, accordingly.
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Old 27 February 2019, 11:44 AM   #128
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Worst time EVER in history to be buying any Rolex/AP or Patek.

Just wait it out.
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Old 27 February 2019, 12:21 PM   #129
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I can't imagine working in a Rolex AD these days. I bet after every 3rd customer the associate is ready to go eat a cyanide salad.
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Old 27 February 2019, 12:24 PM   #130
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The bar for how easily people will be offended just keeps dropping lower and lower it seems.
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Old 27 February 2019, 12:28 PM   #131
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well this thread/post was a hell of a start for my morning haha i was born in brummie, i would want to know where this AD is xD
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Old 27 February 2019, 12:55 PM   #132
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But what I really want to know is how the OP made it home with his Subway sandwich still in tact.

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Old 24 March 2019, 05:00 AM   #133
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But what I really want to know is how the OP made it home with his Subway sandwich still in tact.

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Old 24 March 2019, 06:23 AM   #134
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Old 24 March 2019, 06:57 AM   #135
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I’m fortunate that I can get almost any Rolex model I want at my AD but there is a catch. I can not flip, MSRP no exception, and I cannot get multiple hot models like a black and white Daytona and a blue SS sky. So here is what I learned. Scarce models are scarce therefore bundles are understandable. Yes the dealers make money on every model but if they only get eight white Daytonas a year how much do they really make if they follow a first come first serve model. Let’s face it if I owned an AD my frequent customers would be first in line as they help keep the lights on. Don’t blame the ADs as they only get what they get. Yes they have hot models in the safe but not as many as you may think. A wait list is only good if their frequent buyers pass on what they have come in. I’m not a fan of markups so I understand the frustration.
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Old 24 March 2019, 07:46 AM   #136
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IMO this says more about the confidence level of people entering the shop than anything. I wear whatever and no one cares. They can tell im serious and i know what im talking about pretty quickly.

honestly the only negative thing i get is when they hear my american accent as then they assume i am a tourist. Other than that, i can go in wearing flipflops and no one acts like i dont belong.


Agree - I’m casual enough Monday to Friday. Weekends it doesn’t get any better. Especially in the summer months.

Footwear shouldn’t make any difference.

No matter what I’m shopping for I do always pay the SA the courtesy though of letting them know if I’m just browsing rather than buying when that’s the case.
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Old 24 March 2019, 07:56 AM   #137
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The more bs you tell them the more valuable information they have to judge you. I'm new to watches but luxury retail is the same: go in, be polite and if they're still rude, leave. There are plenty of places in the world that would be happy for your custom.
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Old 24 March 2019, 08:33 AM   #138
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There's too much to comment on here, both pro and con for both sides but the main point to me is:

I don't care if the salesperson is having a bad day, problems at home or any other difficulty of which they're struggling. We *ALL* deal with life's problems everyday. Everyone. No exceptions.

There is NO EXCUSE to take out your personal issues on others. To say "Sorry, I was having a bad day" is plain unacceptable. It's also selfish and the height of rudeness. Again, we all have bad days. A *professional* simply deals with the customer and moves on.

Yes, the OP didn't exactly come off as the 'paragon of celestial virtue' either, but that's another dialog altogether. Sometimes it's better to bite the bullet and go elsewhere.


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Old 24 March 2019, 11:06 AM   #139
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Put yourself in the AD salespersons position.

Everyday 20 or 30 'randoms' walk through the door or phone up asking the same question...

'What's the wait time on a *(insert any SS Professional model at this point)'

Then get one of these said 'randoms' say to you 'hey, your wearing a Hulk - how did you get that??'

Personally, if I were that salesperson I would be like 'Hey, F.U buddy!'

Lets be honest, walking in to an AD you've never been to before and expecting to be able to buy a SS Daytona or any other SS professional piece is never going to end well...

So, OP, why are you so surprised you didn't get treated like Royalty with your 'I can get a better deal elsewhere' routine?

Furthermore, you made a lot of assumptions here about the Chinese sales lady.

Saying because she's Chinese means she's entitled to 16.5% sales tax discount would imply she was a tourist....really?

How about she's a British citizen which would mean she's entitled to 0% tax discount!

Honestly, I find your comments naïve, insulting and quite frankly borderline racist.

The sales lady's ethnicity has no relevance to your experience that day so did not need to be mentioned.

Your experience may very well have made you 'feel like a tw*t' but this thread has made you look like one.
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:18 AM   #140
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I think that maybe these posts are more related to the cognitive dissonance buyers have of a store that advertises products, will no longer display them, and will not sell them to new customers.

It's a simple thing to abstractly understand, but is emotionally difficult when you try to build a relationship to buy, and are rebuffed.

Just my .02 from trying to become a customer of AD's in my area.

Maybe if I had caught the watch bug earlier I would have fond memories of buying a watch under retail, but for me and many others in the last few years it's been gray or nothing.
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:19 AM   #141
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That said, this horse has been beaten far beyond death.
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:37 AM   #142
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At this point I just hold my breath when I go in an AD whether it Rolex, Omega or another brand. I hope I can try on some watches and perhaps a great conversation about watches ensues. Sometimes I get lucky and some times I don't.
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Old 24 March 2019, 11:50 AM   #143
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Like, like, like, um like.. ah like...

Great like story.
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Old 24 March 2019, 12:01 PM   #144
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Man, the OP sounded like a complete pain in the rear end and I'm not surprised he got the treatment to match that.

My AD has told me it can be trying for them. They get dozens of calls a day asking for the same 5-6 references. They get lots of walk-ins asking for the same models, no interest in anything else. They get people who've bought before, but show up with a sense of arrogance and self-entitlement, and demand that they get certain pieces. They get people who try to beat them down for every last penny of discount. Plenty of people are rude and get upset when they're told they can't be on a list for something even if they're a first time customer.

Being polite, respectful and understanding can go a long way. Back in January, I had a very frank discussion with my AD that I understood how difficult getting a BLRO could be, given that they have other VIPs waiting. I told them I wouldn't mind waiting a year or two as long as they just honestly kept me in mind. Two months later, I had a BLRO in my hands. Surely they could have sold it to someone who spent much more than I did, but in my case, being humble and respectful the entire time ended up paying off.
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Old 24 March 2019, 12:03 PM   #145
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OK. I have to say it. Like. Like. Like. Like. Like.

Whenever a post arrives and the poster seems to think the word "like" means "I said" or "they said" I instantly think I am reading a post by someone who is out of tune with normalcy. The "valley girl" vibe abounds.

On the other hand, this may mean I'm old.
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Old 24 March 2019, 12:37 PM   #146
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Man, the OP sounded like a complete pain in the rear end and I'm not surprised he got the treatment to match that.

My AD has told me it can be trying for them. They get dozens of calls a day asking for the same 5-6 references. They get lots of walk-ins asking for the same models, no interest in anything else. They get people who've bought before, but show up with a sense of arrogance and self-entitlement, and demand that they get certain pieces. They get people who try to beat them down for every last penny of discount. Plenty of people are rude and get upset when they're told they can't be on a list for something even if they're a first time customer.

Being polite, respectful and understanding can go a long way. Back in January, I had a very frank discussion with my AD that I understood how difficult getting a BLRO could be, given that they have other VIPs waiting. I told them I wouldn't mind waiting a year or two as long as they just honestly kept me in mind. Two months later, I had a BLRO in my hands. Surely they could have sold it to someone who spent much more than I did, but in my case, being humble and respectful the entire time ended up paying off.
If I were an AD, I would escort the OP out of the door. They don’t need this type of nonsense after spending half a million on a Rolex case and not having stock.
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Old 24 March 2019, 12:37 PM   #147
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The OP is either a troll, or wanted to get as far away from this forum as humanly possible after seeing the responses

Meanwhile, I'm still trying to figure out what a "mythed face" is...
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Old 24 March 2019, 02:21 PM   #148
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I don’t blame them. I have my own law firm and if someone came in telling me that they wouldn’t pay me my rate because they could do so much better...and were just shopping for my advice but would be hiring someone cheaper to actually handle the case...and the analogy may not be perfect, but, it’s close enough...I’d be quite offended.
I get people that do this in my business too. Call and ask a bunch of qiestions and then go somewhere cheaper.

To the OP. ADs right now are all in the same boat. Tons of demand and nothing to supply. They get asked the same questions 20x a day and they just get tired of answering them.

An AD only wants to sell you something. If they dont have what you want to buy its not much different to someone window shopping. It doesnt matter if you have a million dollars in your pocket. If they cant sell you something you are of no use to them.

Short term thinking i know but this is how it is.

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Old 24 March 2019, 02:54 PM   #149
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“Dysfunctional consultation”

These happen in life, to everyone and in the grand scheme of things, it’s no big deal.

Bear something in mind: we all have bad days. You don’t know anything about her or what’s going on in her life. So sure if somebody is flat out abusive or aggressive, chew them out, but otherwise, let it slide. Easier said than done sometimes. But it’s worth remembering what you yourself are like on your worst days.
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Old 24 March 2019, 04:25 PM   #150
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No AD is going to encourage you to buy second hand, and then you roll out the flipper's Xmas list as your I'm not poor defensive retort... I know you were flummoxed but you really couldn't have said more wrong things. Still, if you want a DD then you are one of the lucky ones as this can be bought in a decent manner.
So true. Can’t blurt out your willingness to buy all those watches that are selling way above retail to prove your point. All of us will buy those references in a snap.

It’s like saying I am willing to buy any $10 bill for $5 no matter how many you can produce.
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