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Old 23 March 2019, 02:11 AM   #1
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Sapphire surface’s scratch!! How to settle?

My Back Submariner 116610 LN bought in 2017. In couple weeks, I realize a scratch on the sapphire surface. Till now, I don’t know what causes this scratch. Feeling unhappy now. Please advice what should I do to recover this scar???



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Old 23 March 2019, 02:20 AM   #2
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:24 AM   #3
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That's nothing. Just enjoy your watch. When you get it serviced, you can replace the crystal if you want.
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:27 AM   #4
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It’s quite long to Rolex service. 2024. Scar on bracelet is acceptable but this.... feel down


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Old 23 March 2019, 02:27 AM   #5
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That's nothing. Just enjoy your watch. When you get it serviced, you can replace the crystal if you want.
He’s right
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:28 AM   #6
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I would personally leave it alone. Not worth changing out the crystal for imo. I would wait until it gets some more scars and replace at that time.
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:29 AM   #7
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It’s quite long to Rolex service. 2024. Scar on bracelet is acceptable but this.... feel down


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You can service it tomorrow if you want...it won’t need it but you don’t have to wait...just saying
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:33 AM   #8
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Rolex replacement is the only option should you choose to. I had a scratch on a DSSD and a Vacheron Overseas. Tried all kinds of methods posted online, e.g. diamond paste polish with handheld rotary tool, cape code with elbow grease... none worked. Just FYI before you proceed :-)
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:43 AM   #9
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Rolex replacement is the only option should you choose to. I had a scratch on a DSSD and a Vacheron Overseas. Tried all kinds of methods posted online, e.g. diamond paste polish with handheld rotary tool, cape code with elbow grease... none worked. Just FYI before you proceed :-)
You’re spot on.

While it is of course possible to remove a scratch - as the crystal does not start life off perfectly polished, the time involved in regrinding and polishing a sapphire crystal hugely eats in to any monetary saving made over replacing it. To the point where it cannot possibly be the cheaper option. Plus you are left with a crytal that is however many 1/100mm thinner than it was to start with, and the bevelled edge is going to be wrong.
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:46 AM   #10
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Just an fyi, I paid $315 for a new crystal on my OP39...
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:47 AM   #11
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You’re spot on.



While it is of course possible to remove a scratch - as the crystal does not start life off perfectly polished, the time involved in regrinding and polishing a sapphire crystal hugely eats in to any monetary saving made over replacing it. To the point where it cannot possibly be the cheaper option. Plus you are left with a crytal that is however many 1/100mm thinner than it was to start with, and the bevelled edge is going to be wrong.

Plus the polishing created minute traces of hairlines on the crystal. However, I saw some success stories online (a Panerai). I began to wonder if all crystals are created equal? Any possibility of varying degree of pureness in the raw material? Anyone knows?
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:51 AM   #12
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Usually a crystal scratch will occur when in contact with a diamond ring.
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:52 AM   #13
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Rolex replacement is the only option should you choose to. I had a scratch on a DSSD and a Vacheron Overseas. Tried all kinds of methods posted online, e.g. diamond paste polish with handheld rotary tool, cape code with elbow grease... none worked. Just FYI before you proceed :-)


Did it work? Diamond paste polish


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Old 23 March 2019, 02:55 AM   #14
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Usually a crystal scratch will occur when in contact with a diamond ring.


I guess that the scratch caused by my wife’s ring.


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Old 23 March 2019, 02:56 AM   #15
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I would leave it. I am sure it bothers you now, and would me too but in a few weeks it will just become part of the watch and you wont even notice it.
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:56 AM   #16
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Plus the polishing created minute traces of hairlines on the crystal. However, I saw some success stories online (a Panerai). I began to wonder if all crystals are created equal? Any possibility of varying degree of pureness in the raw material? Anyone knows?
Absolutely there can be variations. But you’ll be talking parts per million or even parts per billion. These are lab made crystals so will be chemically as close to perfect as makes no difference.

The level of success is down to the tools/products used. The glass manufacturing for watches is no different to griding and polishing any type of lens. It is possible, but a diy job will almost always look like a diy job.

This is why for example, repairing damaged camera lenses is an expensive industry. To get it right you need more than elbow grease and a Saturday afternoon.
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:58 AM   #17
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It did not. I was able to polish it off a tiny bit, but it was still clearly visible. As Mentioned in previous response to another comment, there was a guy who posted a success story with his Pam. Not in my case, although I think I got the high quality diamond paste and proper tool :-) Your luck may vary...
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Old 23 March 2019, 02:58 AM   #18
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I know you are able to polish out the old type acrylic crystals, but not the sapphire ones.
Enjoy the watch. I'm sure you will have more battle scars before you are due for a service.
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Old 23 March 2019, 03:00 AM   #19
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Absolutely there can be variations. But you’ll be talking parts per million or even parts per billion. These are lab made crystals so will be chemically as close to perfect as makes no difference.

The level of success is down to the tools/products used. The glass manufacturing for watches is no different to griding and polishing any type of lens. It is possible, but a diy job will almost always look like a diy job.

This is why for example, repairing damaged camera lenses is an expensive industry. To get it right you need more than elbow grease and a Saturday afternoon.

Good to know, thank you.
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Old 23 March 2019, 07:11 AM   #20
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That would bother me too. I'd replace the crystal.
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Old 23 March 2019, 07:18 AM   #21
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It did not. I was able to polish it off a tiny bit, but it was still clearly visible. As Mentioned in previous response to another comment, there was a guy who posted a success story with his Pam. Not in my case, although I think I got the high quality diamond paste and proper tool :-) Your luck may vary...
I wonder if the Panerai just looks better because of the more domed crystals masking.
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Old 23 March 2019, 07:26 AM   #22
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Is it the tiny mark at 9 o’clock?
If you wanted the worry you should see my friends 50 year old 5513
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Old 23 March 2019, 07:37 AM   #23
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Just ignore it. After a couple of weeks you will not even notice it anymore.
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Old 23 March 2019, 11:21 AM   #24
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Forget diamond polishing etc. Not going to work the way you think it will. Replace the crystal (now or next service) or learn to live with it.
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Old 23 March 2019, 11:45 AM   #25
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Yes probably got nicked by your wife's diamond ring. And it will happen again. Obviously you need a divorce. No seriously, the 5 second fix... hit it with a black sharpie. You'll never notice it. You may have to redo it after you clean the watch, but it will stop the light reflecting off the nick and you won't see it again.
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Old 23 March 2019, 01:04 PM   #26
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Keep the wife, replace the crystal.
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Old 23 March 2019, 01:19 PM   #27
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It’s a sub...it’s meant to get beat up a little...

Below is my edit after reading more of the comments:

You are out of your fricken mind trying at home remedies for a 8500 dollar watch. Either leave it because my note above or spend the 1000 bucks for a proper service and replacement
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Old 23 March 2019, 01:27 PM   #28
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It would bug the crap out of me.
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Old 23 March 2019, 01:29 PM   #29
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that sucks... I got a scratch on the side of my new phone and every time I see it I get angry I can't imagine how you feel

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Old 23 March 2019, 11:37 PM   #30
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It would drive me nuts. I’d have the crystal replaced.
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