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lpestre · 23 March 2016, 08:49 AM

Hello guys !!

I have the opportunity to get a red 1680, but the things is that it has a service case.
How much does it affect the resale value. Could i sell it around 8k ?

Here is some pics

Regards

dddrees · 23 March 2016, 08:53 AM

I would take this question to the vintage Rolex sub forum. Not that you won't get answers here, but there you'll get them from the vintage crowd.

Swearengen · 23 March 2016, 08:45 PM

Hands looks a bit light too. I am not sure there are that many sales data points for re-cased Red 1680's. Knowing the collectors mind set I would have thought quite a hefty discount would apply.

Swearengen · 23 March 2016, 08:47 PM

Just noticed that the insert is a service item too. Can't tell if the date wheel is original, so what's left just the movement and dial being original?

J!m · 23 March 2016, 10:41 PM

Crown also changed. Looks like a 703 to me. Bezel ring is probably a replacement as well. It looks quite sharp.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the bracelet is also a replacement. (Then I notice it is called out in the document)

Dial looks OK, and it runs, so it should be handled as a "sum of parts" value situation.

Dial value: a few thousand
Movement value: a few thousand
Case value: 1500-2000
Bracelet: 800 (if near new condition)

Can it be re-sold for 8,000? Probably not to a well educated buyer. I would expect closer to 5 or 6 because it does not have a lot of originality. The individual parts do have value on the open market however, and I think "parted out" you could get 8,000 out of it, or at least close to that.

Perpetual74 · 23 March 2016, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J!m

Crown also changed. Looks like a 703 to me. Bezel ring is probably a replacement as well. It looks quite sharp.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the bracelet is also a replacement. (Then I notice it is called out in the document)

Dial looks OK, and it runs, so it should be handled as a "sum of parts" value situation.

Dial value: a few thousand
Movement value: a few thousand
Case value: 1500-2000
Bracelet: 800 (if near new condition)

Can it be re-sold for 8,000? Probably not to a well educated buyer. I would expect closer to 5 or 6 because it does not have a lot of originality. The individual parts do have value on the open market however, and I think "parted out" you could get 8,000 out of it, or at least close to that.

100% agree word by word

watchcrank · 24 March 2016, 02:15 AM

Value is in the dial for a collector. Pull dial, add service dial to it and sell. Find correct case year and add dial :-) But only if can be bought at a proper price.

swish77 · 24 March 2016, 06:20 AM

A dial for a red 1680 is indeed where the money is, as stated above, and is the most difficult part to find. However, I would not part this watch out if it were mine. The case is not "incorrect" just because it's a Rolex service case. Nothing wrong with it. I love a fat case, service or not (as long as the price is adjusted accordingly, of course).

I'd track down a set of tritium hands and a proper insert and enjoy the watch. It's also got RSC service papers, which add value, and presumably the movement is good to go for years. Is $8K too much? Probably. See if you can bargain down some. Good luck.

lpestre · 24 March 2016, 08:09 AM

Hello guys !!

Thank you very much, the price was 7500 euros, so i assume it was to much. I really love this forum and the great help i get from.

Regards

lpestre · 3 July 2016, 07:35 AM

Hello guys !

New red sub insight, what do you think of this one ?

dysondiver · 3 July 2016, 07:43 AM

triggers broom

lpestre · 3 July 2016, 08:07 AM

Haha, For rolexes that always been the great debate.

jdog111578 · 3 July 2016, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lpestre

Hello guys !

New red sub insight, what do you think of this one ?

Pass...

Wrong insert, wrong crown, thin crown side lugs, missmatched hands. and even with this picture, I'm questioning this dial.

Frogman4me · 3 July 2016, 10:53 AM

Both examples are worth passing on IMO. Wait for a better, original example from a respected seller is my best advice. Happy hunting!

tonyfabro · 3 July 2016, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j!m

crown also changed. Looks like a 703 to me. Bezel ring is probably a replacement as well. It looks quite sharp.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the bracelet is also a replacement. (then i notice it is called out in the document)

dial looks ok, and it runs, so it should be handled as a "sum of parts" value situation.

Dial value: A few thousand
movement value: A few thousand
case value: 1500-2000
bracelet: 800 (if near new condition)

can it be re-sold for 8,000? Probably not to a well educated buyer. I would expect closer to 5 or 6 because it does not have a lot of originality. The individual parts do have value on the open market however, and i think "parted out" you could get 8,000 out of it, or at least close to that.

+1

Fleetlord · 3 July 2016, 02:30 PM

PASS PASS PASS

PASS on where u are sourcing these subs as well

lpestre · 3 July 2016, 06:06 PM

Thank you guys,

I have friend who work as an usher, so he offer me watch before it get into the auction.

acf321 · 3 July 2016, 06:30 PM

Have a look on Iconicwatchcompany.com. Top quality subs and top quality vendor - no fuss.

23 March 2016, 08:53 AM	#2
dddrees "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: This N That Posts: 34,251	I would take this question to the vintage Rolex sub forum. Not that you won't get answers here, but there you'll get them from the vintage crowd. __________________ When it captures your imagination, that's when you know you have found your passion. Loyal Foot Soldier of The Nylon Nation. Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons

23 March 2016, 08:45 PM	#3
Swearengen "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Gabriel Location: London, UK Posts: 1,816	Hands looks a bit light too. I am not sure there are that many sales data points for re-cased Red 1680's. Knowing the collectors mind set I would have thought quite a hefty discount would apply. __________________ 1680 1675 16800 16570 16710 17000 16613 17013 Gone but not forgotten 16610LV 1016 16234

23 March 2016, 08:47 PM	#4
Swearengen "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Real Name: Gabriel Location: London, UK Posts: 1,816	Just noticed that the insert is a service item too. Can't tell if the date wheel is original, so what's left just the movement and dial being original? __________________ 1680 1675 16800 16570 16710 17000 16613 17013 Gone but not forgotten 16610LV 1016 16234

23 March 2016, 10:41 PM	#5
J!m "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Real Name: Jim Location: Connecticut Watch: this! Hold my beer Posts: 2,813	Crown also changed. Looks like a 703 to me. Bezel ring is probably a replacement as well. It looks quite sharp. I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the bracelet is also a replacement. (Then I notice it is called out in the document) Dial looks OK, and it runs, so it should be handled as a "sum of parts" value situation. Dial value: a few thousand Movement value: a few thousand Case value: 1500-2000 Bracelet: 800 (if near new condition) Can it be re-sold for 8,000? Probably not to a well educated buyer. I would expect closer to 5 or 6 because it does not have a lot of originality. The individual parts do have value on the open market however, and I think "parted out" you could get 8,000 out of it, or at least close to that.

24 March 2016, 02:15 AM	#7
watchcrank "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: michael Location: Florida Watch: explorer II cream Posts: 1,661	Value is in the dial for a collector. Pull dial, add service dial to it and sell. Find correct case year and add dial :-) But only if can be bought at a proper price.

24 March 2016, 06:20 AM	#8
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,800	A dial for a red 1680 is indeed where the money is, as stated above, and is the most difficult part to find. However, I would not part this watch out if it were mine. The case is not "incorrect" just because it's a Rolex service case. Nothing wrong with it. I love a fat case, service or not (as long as the price is adjusted accordingly, of course). I'd track down a set of tritium hands and a proper insert and enjoy the watch. It's also got RSC service papers, which add value, and presumably the movement is good to go for years. Is $8K too much? Probably. See if you can bargain down some. Good luck.

24 March 2016, 08:09 AM	#9
lpestre 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Montreal/Paris Posts: 1,266	Hello guys !! Thank you very much, the price was 7500 euros, so i assume it was to much. I really love this forum and the great help i get from. Regards

3 July 2016, 07:35 AM	#10
lpestre 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Montreal/Paris Posts: 1,266	Hello guys ! New red sub insight, what do you think of this one ?

3 July 2016, 07:43 AM	#11
dysondiver "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: tom Location: northern ireland Watch: my fins Posts: 10,063	triggers broom

3 July 2016, 08:07 AM	#12
lpestre 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Montreal/Paris Posts: 1,266	Haha, For rolexes that always been the great debate.

3 July 2016, 10:53 AM	#14
Frogman4me Banned Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,268	Both examples are worth passing on IMO. Wait for a better, original example from a respected seller is my best advice. Happy hunting!

3 July 2016, 02:30 PM	#16
Fleetlord "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 5,940	PASS PASS PASS PASS on where u are sourcing these subs as well

3 July 2016, 06:06 PM	#17
lpestre 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Montreal/Paris Posts: 1,266	Thank you guys, I have friend who work as an usher, so he offer me watch before it get into the auction.

3 July 2016, 06:30 PM	#18
acf321 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Adam Location: Sydney Watch: 14270 /16610 Posts: 142	Have a look on Iconicwatchcompany.com. Top quality subs and top quality vendor - no fuss.

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