Anthony Farrer

[sski]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

And OnlyFans.

Wonder who will be producing the documentary?

LOL

[Moondoggy]

I guess you hit rock bottom when the Reddit crowd get it right.

[omar-rye]

I mean, at least his dream of Mark Wahlberg playing him in a biopic is more plausible now.

[MP777]

Crazy

[rmagoo57]

Originally Posted by walds11

The latest video from AF:

https://youtu.be/mKLFcjm83vY

He is toast!

The train has officially wrecked. Took longer than I thought. Hoping the victims of his greed and stupidity can somehow get paid.

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by rmagoo57

The train has officially wrecked. Took longer than I thought. Hoping the victims of his greed and stupidity can somehow get paid.

Genuine question: How does someone in a similar situation get their money? He said he spent everything on cocaine, hookers, gambling, etc.

[train-time]

Originally Posted by walds11

The latest video from AF:

https://youtu.be/mKLFcjm83vY

He is toast!

Absolutely pathetic. This guy belongs in prison.

[Andy0331]

Originally Posted by SMD

I assume you are not a lawyer. But an innocent purchaser for value without notice of the competing claim takes title under common law. The consigners have a contract claim (because there will be a contract governing this) against whatever LLC AF set up. They may have a claim against him personally but that will completely depend on the facts (commingled funds, didn’t maintain Corp formalities, etc.).

This is a breach of contract claim not theft (absent a showing of fraud).

If the watch was sold at a price lower than agreed on the consignment agreement, would that not be theft?

A jeweler receiving stolen property even innocently is still receiving stolen property. Pretty sure that doesn't entitle them to free and clear ownership. It certainly doesn't in the pawn business where the items are seized by law enforcement. Now items sold months or years ago would likely be impossible to track, but it looks like he's been doing this as recently as the last few days. There may/should be some recourse for recent victims beyond waiting on his wages from stamping license plates to build up.

[JonaG]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Genuine question: How does someone in a similar situation get their money? He said he spent everything on cocaine, hookers, gambling, etc.

…and the rest he wasted

[Watch-Geek]

Originally Posted by JonaG

…and the rest he wasted

George Best reference, brilliant

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[White Collar Boy]

Weird reality-TV-style confession. It’s a personal-growth story disguised as a mea culpa. The show must go on! And on…

Other people’s money is an abstraction for this guy now; the number that matters is audience size.

[TheFuture]

He will do time in Federal Prison probably 10years unless he rats on other dealers. Nature is healing the market will return to any rollie you want soon enough. Fakes always get exposed. If your involved in it I suggest you get out of it.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by TheFuture

He will do time in Federal Prison probably 10years unless he rats on other dealers. Nature is healing the market will return to any rollie you want soon enough. Fakes always get exposed. If your involved in it I suggest you get out of it.

He hasn't stolen anything, he just hasn't paid for it yet.

[RichardBartlett]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

He hasn't stolen anything, he just hasn't paid for it yet.

Valid point,

if the police get involved then there's nothing they can/will do at this stage. UNLESS there is a tax evasion element or an actual proven attempt to defraud they will suggest the two parties (AF & all the consignee's) to try to work it out amicably

[Fleetlord]

Jilted consignments are nothing new. Happens all the time...

https://money.com/second-time-around...gnment-closes/

Sometimes there is no recourse except small claims court...

Other times there is prison..

https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/c...ment-shop.html

It's going to depend on state laws, how the agreement is written...etc etc.

As soon as Anthony moved to LA, he was finished. He had a good thing going in the early days, but the lifestyle, mental illness and addiction took him down.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by omar-rye

Genuine question: How does someone in a similar situation get their money? He said he spent everything on cocaine, hookers, gambling, etc.

Typically, they just don't get their money back.

Anthony's story reminds me of a solar builder who was growing too fast for his own good - from 0 to 30+ employees in like 3 years - in what was basically a construction business. The guy started spending as if there was no tomorrow. Sponsoring the local major league hockey team was just one example. Another year down the road it all exploded. The business had increasingly and fraudulently used prepayments specifically tied to (and in many cases held in escrow for) the many new projects to fulfill the fewer old contracts. As soon as growth slowed down the scheme collapsed. The owner/CEO went to jail for fraudulent bankruptcy, declared bankruptcy on a personal level, and customers lost single digit millions.

[RichardBartlett]

Originally Posted by ts3

Typically, they just don't get their money back.

Anthony's story reminds me of a solar builder who was growing too fast for his own good - from 0 to 30+ employees in like 3 years - in what was basically a construction business. The guy started spending as if there was no tomorrow. Sponsoring the local major league hockey team was just one example. Another year down the road it all exploded. The business had increasingly and fraudulently used prepayments specifically tied to (and in many cases held in escrow for) the many new projects to fulfill the fewer old contracts. As soon as growth slowed down the scheme collapsed. The owner/CEO went to jail for fraudulent bankruptcy, declared bankruptcy on a personal level, and customers lost single digit millions.

These things work swell on the way up but not so good on the way down

My Gestor (accountant practice) was doing the same, she had been spending faster than the money coming in . She purchased a new office which cost more than anticipated and supporting her useless kids
so was taking money from one client to reimburse others , as she was filing tax returns and not paying social security etc
It's far more complicated here in Spain. She owes me around 15k in unpaid taxes etc

It came to light when she told me I owed 20k hacienda tax on a house purchase.
I assumed it was legit but cross checked and found it should have been under 2k. When questioned she blamed the lawyer who messed up..(apparently it was always either the tax office or lawyer who was to blame.)


I used her because the previous business owner had dealt with her for 15 years. He only found out he'd been done when he went to sign on for his pension at the tax office and they said "who are you?"

Several others lost money including charities.

Her house has been embargoed and a court case has been filed but because the system takes years to process here continues to practice..

Happens in all walks of life tbf

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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by White Collar Boy

Weird reality-TV-style confession. It’s a personal-growth story disguised as a mea culpa. The show must go on! And on…

Other people’s money is an abstraction for this guy now; the number that matters is audience size.

My take on it as well Matt.

He’ll be back in some way shape or form.

[Moondoggy]

Originally Posted by brandrea

my take on it as well matt.

He’ll be back in some way shape or form.

100%, but it ain’t a nice ride.

[enjoythemusic]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

I guess you hit rock bottom when the Reddit crowd get it right.

(Said in a very friendly way) As someone who has truly hit rock bottom during the course of my life, that video is not rock bottom. Far from it! Having been at AA / NA meetings for many years and seen far more than i care to post here... (sadly, some didn't make it out alive)

Imho Anthony is nowhere near the bottom. That carefully edited video is just another normal, follow-up 'YouTube Episode' for him. There's really nothing special here.

Wonder if he's already discussed documentary / film rights with Producer? Looking at his saga, it has many of the elements, plus very topical with LGBTQ+ 'actors' as well. I just hope they don't script it to make the timepiece community seem like a bunch of wankers.

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

(Said in a very friendly way) As someone who has truly hit rock bottom during the course of my life, that video is not rock bottom. Far from it! Having been at AA / NA meetings for many years and seen far more than i care to post here... (sadly, some didn't make it out alive)

Imho Anthony is nowhere near the bottom. That carefully edited video is just another normal, follow-up 'YouTube Episode' for him. There's really nothing special here.

Wonder if he's already discussed documentary / film rights with Producer? Looking at his saga, it has many of the elements, plus very topical with LGBTQ+ 'actors' as well. I just hope they don't script it to make the timepiece community seem like a bunch of wankers.

Have to agree Steven. I have a brother who hit rock bottom, it was horrible, private and heartbreaking.

I’m happy you made it out the other side. My brother has been clean now for 11 years, but he’ll tell you that every day is a struggle.

Whatever the struggle is, addictions, mental health … it’s a journey and everyone’s path to the other side is the same but different.

Peace to you.

I truly hope Anthony gets the help he needs.

[travisb]

Geeesh…

[SMD]

Originally Posted by Andy0331

If the watch was sold at a price lower than agreed on the consignment agreement, would that not be theft?

No, that would be breach of contract and the consignor would have a claim against the counterparty for the difference between the sale price and the agreed price.

[Texote69]

Tugman gonna have to come out of retirement to pay everyone back

[Booth9999]

Originally Posted by enjoythemusic

(Said in a very friendly way) As someone who has truly hit rock bottom during the course of my life, that video is not rock bottom. Far from it! Having been at AA / NA meetings for many years and seen far more than i care to post here... (sadly, some didn't make it out alive)

Imho Anthony is nowhere near the bottom. That carefully edited video is just another normal, follow-up 'YouTube Episode' for him. There's really nothing special here.

Wonder if he's already discussed documentary / film rights with Producer? Looking at his saga, it has many of the elements, plus very topical with LGBTQ+ 'actors' as well. I just hope they don't script it to make the timepiece community seem like a bunch of wankers.

You are 100% right. I’m not sure he can stop, jail might be the best thing that could happen to him. Very sad to see as I have seen good brothers fall into the addiction hole. I wish him the best.

[Slimpee]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

He hasn't stolen anything, he just hasn't paid for it yet.

Not true. At some point, probably a while ago, he became criminally liable. I can’t speak for whatever state he’s in, but he can face Federal theft charges and with that much money lost and his criminal history, he’s looking at serious Federal prison time.

He almost certainly has criminal defense attorneys he can call. I’d be shocked if any of them told him to start posting videos of his explanation unless they’re trying to set up a lack of intent defense. But if he was using revenue from the sale of consigned pieces to fund a lavish lifestyle or he was building a ponzi-type scheme where he was selling pieces to pay off prior debts, he’s going to have trouble selling a viable defense.

I see this type of situation with some frequency involving roofers, fence installers, and construction contractors. They get in over their head, use deposits to pay for materials for other clients and to complete other jobs, and then they don’t have the ability to complete the job for the client who has paid the deposit. The work doesn’t get finished and the money doesn’t get refunded because it has already been spent. The defendant tries to complete other jobs to make up for the loss but can’t and then law enforcement is called. The defendant often has lots of explanations for why they haven’t completed the job and promises to complete the job, etc., but at a certain point, it’s charged as a theft.

And for Anthony, it’s even worse because he documented his extravagant lifestyle.

[trackingtime]

lol what a joke from him.

he used to be in the forum

[Ferdelious]

Originally Posted by JonaG

…and the rest he wasted

[walds11]

This is gonna be interesting:

[omar-rye]

Originally Posted by Moondoggy

He hasn't stolen anything, he just hasn't paid for it yet.

Suppose party A gave party B money to deliver to party C, but party B took the money and spent it on himself. What do you call that? It might not fall under theft, but it’s definitely a cause for litigation and possible charges. I don’t think anyone can argue that