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Old 28 November 2020, 12:26 PM   #31
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I think I saw a screenshot on someones IG confirming that a black open worked is coming. It will be a sexy piece.
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Old 28 November 2020, 05:01 PM   #32
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Any opinion on how this ranks compared to the ceramic skeleton perpetual in terms of aesthetics?

Ceramic skeleton perpetual all day - colors more natural.

While I wouldn’t turn down an opportunity to get the new ceramic double balance, I won’t be throwing my hat in the ring. The slate grey and rose gold bits are too concentrated to create a big pop like the 26585 where rose hints are scattered everywhere
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Old 28 November 2020, 05:56 PM   #33
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Old 28 November 2020, 09:16 PM   #34
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Old 29 November 2020, 08:53 AM   #35
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My 15407 definitely needs a ceramic friend!
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Old 29 November 2020, 09:06 AM   #36
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My 15407 definitely needs a ceramic friend!
I'm over here thinking the same thing my friend
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Old 29 November 2020, 09:44 AM   #37
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My 15407 definitely needs a ceramic friend!

Haha! I agree, but this is going to be 3x - 4x retail I’ll bet. Ceramics are extraordinarily rare on the secondary market, not to mention so much more difficult to manufacture. Add to that all the hype and it’ll be interesting to see how much over MSRP a current production piece can go.

Coming from someone that had zero chance of getting a steel, I can’t imagine how many “approvals” are needed to be awarded this one.

Being selfish, the best part of this release I hope is driving the price of the 15407ST higher.
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Old 29 November 2020, 12:53 PM   #38
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Haha! I agree, but this is going to be 3x - 4x retail I’ll bet. Ceramics are extraordinarily rare on the secondary market, not to mention so much more difficult to manufacture. Add to that all the hype and it’ll be interesting to see how much over MSRP a current production piece can go.

Coming from someone that had zero chance of getting a steel, I can’t imagine how many “approvals” are needed to be awarded this one.

Being selfish, the best part of this release I hope is driving the price of the 15407ST higher.
Why will this piece of ceramic drives the 15407st price higher?
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Old 29 November 2020, 01:21 PM   #39
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Why will this piece of ceramic drives the 15407st price higher?

To be clear I have no idea and am speculating. My thoughts:

1). There are very limited skeleton movements and now there are two models in production. This could put downward pressure on 15407 production.

2). More attention on the double balance skeleton is only a good thing when the market is white hot to begin with.
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Old 29 November 2020, 08:02 PM   #40
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These releases just make me sad. I'll never be able to wear a 41mm, and pretty much all of their cool pieces are in 41.
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Old 29 November 2020, 09:44 PM   #41
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These releases just make me sad. I'll never be able to wear a 41mm, and pretty much all of their cool pieces are in 41.
I think the ceramic being in 41mm is the least of ur concerns haha
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Old 29 November 2020, 09:57 PM   #42
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...not to mention so much more difficult to manufacture.
Omega seems to do just fine manufacturing their vast selection of Ceramic references.
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Old 29 November 2020, 10:18 PM   #43
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I think the ceramic being in 41mm is the least of ur concerns haha
No I’m sad! Literally nothing to buy other than the jumbo.
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Old 30 November 2020, 03:07 AM   #44
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The other versions are gonna keep climbing now.
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Old 30 November 2020, 04:41 PM   #45
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Omega seems to do just fine manufacturing their vast selection of Ceramic references.
So does Chanel
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Old 30 November 2020, 04:49 PM   #46
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Old 30 November 2020, 05:06 PM   #47
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Omega seems to do just fine manufacturing their vast selection of Ceramic references.

It’s the complexity of the AP finish (angles, brushed & polished) and each bracelet segment being tapered that makes it difficult + slower to manufacture.

Churning out multiple cases, all the same shape with minimal finishing is an easier ballgame than making multiple parts that each need to be hand finished.
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Old 1 December 2020, 12:57 AM   #48
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Old 1 December 2020, 02:12 AM   #49
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Old 1 December 2020, 04:05 AM   #50
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Beautiful. Amazing.
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Old 1 December 2020, 04:25 AM   #51
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wow!

And this thing is scratch resistant because it’s all ceramic right?


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Old 1 December 2020, 04:33 AM   #52
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And this thing is scratch resistant because it’s all ceramic right?


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Yes but it’ll chip relatively easily. BTW ceramic is scratch resistant but not scratch proof.


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Old 1 December 2020, 05:49 AM   #53
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No I’m sad! Literally nothing to buy other than the jumbo.
What size is your wrist? Mine is 6.75 inch and the 41s fit me fine. It looks a little more sporty on the wrist but not as chunky as a ROO on a larger wrist.
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Old 1 December 2020, 06:06 AM   #54
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Outstading piece. Still, I think I prefer the steel version for this one.
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Old 1 December 2020, 07:27 AM   #55
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The gold bridges goes really well with the black ceramic case. Big hit for AP!
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Old 1 December 2020, 02:36 PM   #56
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Ive never had problems with anything wearing my Ceramic Perp, and its taken some good abuse...you just can't drop it on a marble counter top or something like that.
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I’ve got a 44 offshore with ceramic bezel, I got a small chip in it in the 1st few months of owning the watch. I changed the bezel and 4 years later I have another couple of tiny chips. They’re too small to see without a loupe but you can feel them.


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Old 1 December 2020, 05:52 PM   #58
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outstading piece. Still, i think i prefer the steel version for this one.
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Old 1 December 2020, 11:35 PM   #59
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What size is your wrist? Mine is 6.75 inch and the 41s fit me fine. It looks a little more sporty on the wrist but not as chunky as a ROO on a larger wrist.
I'm closer to 6 inches. So unfortunately not an option :/

Been looking at the 15305ST but I feel too dirty paying its current market price.
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Outstading piece. Still, I think I prefer the steel version for this one.
Yeah same.
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