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Old 22 November 2020, 11:59 PM   #31
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A lot say they are done with Rolex. Then you see all the incomings for new watches.
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Old 23 November 2020, 01:11 AM   #32
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The system should be fair and transparent and its neither.

There should be a clear system of joining a list, knowing what place you are on that list.
Why should it be?

Unfairness and inequality are unavoidable in a capitalist system.

Why should a market for luxury products be fair and equal for all?


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Old 23 November 2020, 01:14 AM   #33
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Nice from a delayed gratification standpoint, otherwise it's horseshit.
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Old 23 November 2020, 01:46 AM   #34
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Was at an AD yesterday picking up my Grand Seiko and they have literally 50% of the store dedicated to Rolex display cases as well as a private viewing room and everything was nearly empty! The only Rolex’s on display were a few tiny ladies watches and a solid gold Skydweller.

I’m honestly wondering how long AD’s will be okay with giving up so much floor space to a product they can’t sell to walk in clients. Of course they are selling every Rolex that comes in their back door but why even bother with display cases at this point?
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Old 23 November 2020, 03:02 AM   #35
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Am I the only one who kind of likes the fact that most rolex models are difficult to obtain at RRP?

Surely if all of our favourite models were able to be purchased right away and by anyone, we would be less interested in acquiring them in the first place?

Gotta love the chase I say!
If you're asking if I enjoy having to pay 3-5k over retail price because I may not necessarily be a preferred client then the answer is no.
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Old 23 November 2020, 03:34 AM   #36
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That's just bonkers
I couldn't agree more!
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Old 23 November 2020, 03:38 AM   #37
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I like the Rolex watch itself. The purchasing is just a ends to a mean. Exclusively and rarity doesn’t interest me at all. The MSRP is exclusive enough.
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Old 23 November 2020, 04:16 AM   #38
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It wasn’t that long ago when you could walk in to an AD, try on and leave with the watch of your dreams. Those were good times.

Today’s “chase”?

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Old 23 November 2020, 05:41 AM   #39
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No. This line of thinking is asinine and also suggests you're at least partially in it for the hype and you may not like a watch as much as you think or claim. Why wouldn't you enjoy a watch just as much or even more if you could buy it right away without any hassle? You're an adult and you know you already want the watch...

If you're willing to spend thousands on what for 99.9% of the population is a completely superflous and unnecessary item in this day and age such as a watch, why the hell would you enjoy having to essentially beg for that item as has become commonplace with ADs? Or keep being told to spend a little more? Or purchase or bundle other watches you don't want?

And all of this to MAYBE get the watch you want?

You enjoy this? Really?

Calm down. I’m betting you don’t have many of the models you want with a reply such as this one
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Old 23 November 2020, 05:42 AM   #40
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It doesn't bother me as much as a lot of people here. They think they have a right to dictate the market because they have been a fan or buyer for a long time.

A lot say they are done with Rolex. Then you see all the incomings for new watches.
Exactly! ‘I’m done with rolex (until I get my call)’
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Old 23 November 2020, 05:44 AM   #41
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Why should it be?

Unfairness and inequality are unavoidable in a capitalist system.

Why should a market for luxury products be fair and equal for all?


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You’re right. This guy has it all wrong. We’re buying luxury items - money talks. Get over it. If you don’t like it, buy a seiko (cue the abuse)
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Old 23 November 2020, 05:53 AM   #42
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If this is the attitude, then you're into it for the exclusivity, not the watches. Now, I will concede that it's possible to be into both, and that may be you. But the point that you are making is why there are so many people that could give two sh*ts about watches, buying Rolex, just like an my other asset class. For those of us that like the watches exclusively, this modern Rolex environment is a huge turn off. I will not kiss an AD's ass to get a watch, or buy 3 watches I don't want to get one I do, or pay a premium to buy a watch that's still in production. It's completely turned me off of Rolex. Rolex wont care that I'm gone, cuz there's plenty of other money hungry chaps willing to take my place in their market in order to have the honor of buying one of their watches at retail. But for me, the juice isn't worth the squeeze to play their game.
And no, I'm not on any lists. If I was offered a watch at retail, yeah I'd probably buy it, hold it and sell it. Not cuz I enjoy the chase or because I like what the rolex market has become, but because I still believe in capitilism, and I'm not stupid. Just like I'm not stupid enough to pay above retail. But I'm sure someone else will.

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Old 23 November 2020, 06:17 AM   #43
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Plenty available at the grey dealers
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Old 23 November 2020, 06:31 AM   #44
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might be the case for new collectors, for those of us who used to buy on secondary market with good discount off MSRP, the current situation is pretty frustrating because you can’t find any good deals.


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Old 23 November 2020, 06:34 AM   #45
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Plenty available at the grey dealers
This is correct. It's not even about exclusivity, It's strictly about money.

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Old 23 November 2020, 06:38 AM   #46
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Old 23 November 2020, 07:17 AM   #47
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If this is the attitude, then you're into it for the exclusivity, not the watches. Now, I will concede that it's possible to be into both, and that may be you. But the point that you are making is why there are so many people that could give two sh*ts about watches, buying Rolex, just like an my other asset class. For those of us that like the watches exclusively, this modern Rolex environment is a huge turn off. I will not kiss an AD's ass to get a watch, or buy 3 watches I don't want to get one I do, or pay a premium to buy a watch that's still in production. It's completely turned me off of Rolex. Rolex wont care that I'm gone, cuz there's plenty of other money hungry chaps willing to take my place in their market in order to have the honor of buying one of their watches at retail. But for me, the juice isn't worth the squeeze to play their game.
And no, I'm not on any lists. If I was offered a watch at retail, yeah I'd probably buy it, hold it and sell it. Not cuz I enjoy the chase or because I like what the rolex market has become, but because I still believe in capitilism, and I'm not stupid. Just like I'm not stupid enough to pay above retail. But I'm sure someone else will.

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You’re done with rolex but still posting on this thread? Ok
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Old 23 November 2020, 07:25 AM   #48
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Let's get real..the poster who started this thread should be banned by the moderators..poster doing nothing but trolling the masses...bunch of h****s***....
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Old 23 November 2020, 07:29 AM   #49
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You’re done with rolex but still posting on this thread? Ok
I can be done buying Rolex and still appreciate the watches they have produced. Thanks for the insightful rebuttal btw.

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Old 23 November 2020, 07:33 AM   #50
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I only like that the restricted supply allows me to feel more comfortable that I could sell for what I paid if really tough times hit. Since I have no plans to sell, that’s not much of a plus.
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Old 23 November 2020, 07:56 AM   #51
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If it means the youngsters can't get a watch for their achievements ,occasions, special moments then i feel saddened.
Without the youngsters there is no future!
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Old 23 November 2020, 07:58 AM   #52
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The rarity and scarcity brings the joy of acquisition after a long hunt,
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Old 23 November 2020, 08:26 AM   #53
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I like the thrill of the chase. But I could buy 2x as many watches before this craziness started.
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Old 23 November 2020, 10:00 AM   #54
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I want one of the new 41mm Submariners. I think the fact I can't easily go to my AD and purchase it at retail makes me want it that much more. But I don't want it so bad to pay 6k over retail for an 8K watch. I have an excellent purchase history with my AD and have been promised one once it is available. I guess that will be when the gray market prices start to come down if that is going to ever occur. Still waiting.
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Old 23 November 2020, 10:03 AM   #55
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No I would much rather just drive up to my AD buy the watch I want without having to hunt for it. Could of saved me thousands. I’m not getting any younger I don’t like games. Time is money
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Old 23 November 2020, 10:15 AM   #56
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With vintage, rare, limited edition, and sold-out pieces, I love the thrill of the chase.

With current, standard production models, the chase is an annoyance rather than thrilling because it's artificially constructed and unnecessary. I never actually engaged in it, though, because the only time I ever bought a brand new Rolex was a few months ago, and there was no wait to get it from an AD (it was an 126660 James Cameron DSSD).
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Old 23 November 2020, 10:30 AM   #57
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I don't care for any gamesmanship.
Would rather just have the stupid watch available for purchase.
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Old 23 November 2020, 10:32 AM   #58
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Love it ! Makes all those diamonds and watches I bought before extra worth it now. Although I do have family in the jewelry business I still maintain reputation with a few AD's
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Old 23 November 2020, 11:43 AM   #59
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I don’t hate it the way others do, but I will say this... it was a lot more fun in the olden days.
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Old 23 November 2020, 11:58 AM   #60
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this is awesome! where's the fun without a little controversy
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