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25 November 2018, 09:30 PM | #61 | |
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If those parts are worn they'll be replaced during service though, I don't think they would forget that no? |
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25 November 2018, 11:09 PM | #62 | |
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Students at Lititz don't start working on full watch movements until the second year. That cycle starts in September. Given the timing of when this watch was serviced, I highly doubt a student would be provided with a customer watch so soon into the process -- if at all. As you mentioned, ETA movements are far more likely for training. Unless we learn otherwise, I'd rule out a student doing the original work. That doesn't seem likely to me. |
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UPDATE: So I received my 14060 back. Not exactly sure what Rolex but they did regulate it very well. Timing is good but amplitude is just OK. Guess it's better than before so there's that. Dunno, maybe the Cal. 3000 just isn't able to attain a high amplitude? Either way, this is the way it should have come back from RSC the first time.
DU: +2 / 281 / 0.0 DD: 0 / 286 / 0.1 CU: +4 / 249 / 0.0 CD: -1 / 246 / 0.2 CR: +1 / 244 / 0.0 CL: 0 / 249 / 0.2 |
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17 December 2018, 04:46 AM | #65 |
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No explanation of what they did to correct the problem?
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17 December 2018, 10:28 AM | #66 |
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That was more directed towards the mid 200's crown position numbers. Are 240's acceptable for those positions? From what I've gathered, freshly service movements should be in the 270+ area.
Nope, even the rep I talked to coudln't say what they did exactly. Paperwork only says "Check Movement". Lol. |
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17 December 2018, 04:28 PM | #68 | |
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That drop in amplitude for vertical positions is entirely normal. |
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17 December 2018, 10:24 PM | #69 |
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Without meaning to cause offence this highlights the problem with timegraphers now becoming mass market items. Amplitude performance varies from calibre to calibre and while 320° might be the norm on one 270° is high for another. Also not all manufacturers will publicly publish their tolerances so unless the results are clearly out (as the original readings were) you won’t know if the results are ‘good’ or ‘bad’.
You pose the question about cal. 30xx not being able to achieve ‘high’ amplitude. Your readings show good amplitude for full wind for 30xx, and this reinforces the relative nature of terms high and low in relation to amplitude. Bas is right, these numbers look healthy. |
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Hey guys, I would like to EVERYONE involved in this thread for all the help! You guys really helped me out and gave me some solid information that got this problem resolved. I truly appreciate the knowledge and the time you guys took to help out!
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On the flip side, had I not had a timegrapher, I would have been stuck with a poorly executed service from RSC. The timegrapher also allowed me to check my other watches that seemed to be running ok but the timegrapher showed me that I needed to have them serviced. If anything, with the 14060, the Timegrapher has given me more confidence in using my local independent as their evaluation seemed more detailed and through than RSC's and I have a feeling that the independent would have done a good job the first time. |
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If every watchmaker at all RSC locations were more like Bas the world would be a better place! His passion shines through in his posts.
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19 December 2018, 09:29 AM | #72 |
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Good to hear. Because MOST will tell you don't even let anyone touch it, let alone have it serviced by an independent. Same goes for jewelry/diamonds/etc. But, that's about the norm these days. If they were all right, my father and I would not be in business. Yet this business has supported him since I was born, and now supports my family too.
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