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Orchi · 26 August 2008, 04:22 AM

Err...for a "Ref 6263 Daytona" which is said to be partially FAKE...being listed by the same eBay Seller - t_swiss_t of Australia...!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Da...QQcmdZViewItem

As Orchi wasn't so sure about the watches...Orchi asked n has gotten good advises from the learned Buddies at VRF...

It is said that the watch is having FAKE Case...Caseback n FAKE movement...!!!

Currently the listing has attracted more than 50 bids...oh please report this to eBay...before another unwary bidder gets burnt from the same Seller again...

But this time...from a "NO Reserve Price auction"...there's more than USD35,000 at stake...by now!!!

toph · 26 August 2008, 04:52 AM

wow i reported it- i wouldnt know personally but going on what i read from the other links i did. that is crazy!!

Terry Newton · 26 August 2008, 05:04 AM

The paperwork looks so good. I am torn about this. The person who writes that it is a fake; Francesco; do you know him well enough to trust his assessments?

Terry Newton

nofxatallorelse · 26 August 2008, 05:08 AM

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/jwl/811864317.html

Hmm.. same watch.... people are getting lower and lower

Orchi · 26 August 2008, 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Terry Newton

The paperwork looks so good. I am torn about this. The person who writes that it is a fake; Francesco; do you know him well enough to trust his assessments?

Terry Newton

Err buddy Terry...yes Francesco from Italy is one of the best dealers/collectors that Orchi trusts very much...

Besides...if the eBay Seller had the genuine papers to begin with...he should have NO ISSUE to post the papers clearly showing the correct n matching serial nos...on the watch n papers...!

Secondly...a genuine Ref 6263 dubbed "Paul Newman" with provenance could fetch...upto 3 times the current bid price of the watch...!

LOT 103: AntiQuorum Auction NYC...

http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:...ient=firefox-a

That eBay Seller does NOT have to list that watch at ZERO Reserve Price auction to begin with...if it was 100% genuine...!

nofxatallorelse · 26 August 2008, 05:40 AM

Let's hope he doesnt end the auction early, until all this gets sorted out...

arttay10 · 26 August 2008, 05:59 AM

This is an intense thread - but we can only do so much.

Terry Newton · 26 August 2008, 06:31 AM

Orchi:

I trust your word implicitly. There is a lot riding on this auction though so that is why I questioned about Francesco. I did report the seller and his entire auctions to E-Bay.

Terry Newton

arttay10 · 26 August 2008, 07:40 AM

Its gone !! The lucky highest bidder from the U.K has had a narrow escape !!

profjohn · 26 August 2008, 08:18 AM

Great news that it's gone.... hope the seller doesn't come and vent his anger and frustration here on TRF.

stevemulholland3 · 26 August 2008, 09:12 AM

crap I am always a day late and a dollar short..

toph · 26 August 2008, 09:13 AM

yeah i just came on to say its gone but i am too late but still that buyer was lucky!!

tudorman8276 · 26 August 2008, 10:10 AM

....that is the way it should be. Good catch ORCHI

Stan.

Orchi · 26 August 2008, 08:32 PM

Err buddy Terry...many thanks to you n everyone in here...we shall move on without any regrets...

ANY Genuine...n honest dealer or watch collector...would NOT avoid to give Return n Refund policy in any sale...should he or she believes in his watches or items being...100% genuine.

gmt master x · 26 August 2008, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orchi

Err buddy Terry...many thanks to you n everyone in here...we shall move on without any regrets...

ANY Genuine...n honest dealer or watch collector...would NOT avoid to give Return n Refund policy in any sale...should he or she believes in his watches or items being...100% genuine.

Noted for my next auction, that was a high stakes game for sure...

toph · 26 August 2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orchi

err buddy terry...many thanks to you n everyone in here...we shall move on without any regrets...

Any genuine...n honest dealer or watch collector...would not avoid to give return n refund policy in any sale...should he or she believes in his watches or items being...100% genuine.

1000000%

Orchi · 28 August 2008, 09:59 PM

Err buddy Terry...the same Seller sneaked into eBay to list the same Ref 6263 watch again...

This time...he raised his stake to much higher value...Buy Now USD42,000/--...!!!

The Seller says...Extremely rare to find complete set of this model ref.
Relist again due to ebay has mistakenly removed this listing.
Now it up for sell with buy now price! price to sell!

Please put a stop at this nonsense...!

http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Da...QQcmdZViewItem

profjohn · 28 August 2008, 11:21 PM

Oh dear, 2 offers already! Someone is going to get burnt.

Terry Newton · 29 August 2008, 06:13 AM

I reported it again.

Terry Newton

26 August 2008, 04:22 AM	#1
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	7 hours to go...this might be too late as well...over 50 bids so far... Err...for a "Ref 6263 Daytona" which is said to be partially FAKE...being listed by the same eBay Seller - t_swiss_t of Australia...!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Da...QQcmdZViewItem As Orchi wasn't so sure about the watches...Orchi asked n has gotten good advises from the learned Buddies at VRF... It is said that the watch is having FAKE Case...Caseback n FAKE movement...!!! Currently the listing has attracted more than 50 bids...oh please report this to eBay...before another unwary bidder gets burnt from the same Seller again... But this time...from a "NO Reserve Price auction"...there's more than USD35,000 at stake...by now!!!

26 August 2008, 04:52 AM	#2
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	wow i reported it- i wouldnt know personally but going on what i read from the other links i did. that is crazy!! __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

26 August 2008, 05:04 AM	#3
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	The paperwork looks so good. I am torn about this. The person who writes that it is a fake; Francesco; do you know him well enough to trust his assessments? Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

26 August 2008, 06:31 AM	#8
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	Orchi: I trust your word implicitly. There is a lot riding on this auction though so that is why I questioned about Francesco. I did report the seller and his entire auctions to E-Bay. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

26 August 2008, 09:13 AM	#12
toph "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: ChrisTOPHer Location: Sydney Watch: Rolex, Brellum, Posts: 12,601	yeah i just came on to say its gone but i am too late but still that buyer was lucky!! __________________ "Where no counsel is the people fall, but in the multitude of counselors there is safety." Member No.# 11795

26 August 2008, 05:08 AM	#4
nofxatallorelse "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: tampa Posts: 237	http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/jwl/811864317.html Hmm.. same watch.... people are getting lower and lower

26 August 2008, 05:40 AM	#6
nofxatallorelse "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: tampa Posts: 237	Let's hope he doesnt end the auction early, until all this gets sorted out...

26 August 2008, 05:59 AM	#7
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	This is an intense thread - but we can only do so much.

26 August 2008, 07:40 AM	#9
arttay10 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lancashire, UK Watch: ???????? Posts: 2,187	Its gone !! The lucky highest bidder from the U.K has had a narrow escape !!

26 August 2008, 08:18 AM	#10
profjohn Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: John Location: Birmingham, UK Watch: Panerai 219 Destro Posts: 100	Great news that it's gone.... hope the seller doesn't come and vent his anger and frustration here on TRF.

26 August 2008, 09:12 AM	#11
stevemulholland3 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: steven Location: tampa bay Watch: 1680 18k sub Posts: 6,673	crap I am always a day late and a dollar short..

26 August 2008, 10:10 AM	#13
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,584	....GONERS....and... ....that is the way it should be. Good catch ORCHI Stan.

26 August 2008, 08:32 PM	#14
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddy Terry...many thanks to you n everyone in here...we shall move on without any regrets... ANY Genuine...n honest dealer or watch collector...would NOT avoid to give Return n Refund policy in any sale...should he or she believes in his watches or items being...100% genuine.

28 August 2008, 09:59 PM	#17
Orchi Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Malaysia Posts: 2,934	Err buddy Terry...the same Seller sneaked into eBay to list the same Ref 6263 watch again... This time...he raised his stake to much higher value...Buy Now USD42,000/--...!!! The Seller says...Extremely rare to find complete set of this model ref. Relist again due to ebay has mistakenly removed this listing. Now it up for sell with buy now price! price to sell! Please put a stop at this nonsense...! http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Rolex-Da...QQcmdZViewItem

28 August 2008, 11:21 PM	#18
profjohn Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: John Location: Birmingham, UK Watch: Panerai 219 Destro Posts: 100	Oh dear, 2 offers already! Someone is going to get burnt.

29 August 2008, 06:13 AM	#19
Terry Newton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Terry Newton Location: Michigan Watch: Rolex TT GMT II c Posts: 6,644	I reported it again. Terry Newton __________________ Terry Newton; Superstar and Fake Sleuth "Z" SS Date Submariner "Z" TT GMT-Master IIc

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