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Gawson · 6 April 2024, 08:17 AM

hi, kindly looking for some opinions on this insert for 16750, pics attached ty

springer · 6 April 2024, 10:12 AM

Check ebay. There is a guy on ebay selling very deceptive inserts that are not genuine and identified by the seller as aftermarket. If you see one like yours from this seller, then you'll have your answer. I can't remember the guys ebay screen name at this time but he sells them out of Florida.

Edit - The seller is oldwatchparts in Sarasota, Florida. Here is a link to one of his auctions. Check the fonts on the insert in question to some of his inserts.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26671353874...Bk9SR47z14zWYw

0nly5iv3Digits · 6 April 2024, 04:59 PM

Fairly certain not genuine. Call it 90% sure.

Antoine2022 · 6 April 2024, 05:39 PM

Looks off to me also but wait for the opinion of members with more knowledge

TuRo · 6 April 2024, 06:38 PM

Paging Mo, can you please come to reception....

swaini3 · 6 April 2024, 10:28 PM

Not seeing issues with this insert.

whatsthetime? · 6 April 2024, 10:35 PM

Looks like I see orange peel at the 23 hour from being painted--aren't these supposed to be aluminum inserts?

springer · 6 April 2024, 11:18 PM

We need someone that doesn't have a day job to stay up with these variations of aftermarket inserts. I can't. A clue, and for me, a significant clue for it being non genuine would be...if it looks new, then it probably is and would not be something I would recommend as genuine.

Additionally, before someone adds to my message, yes, I know, they are aging this aftermarket inserts too. As a guide though, if looks new, BEWARE!

77T · 7 April 2024, 09:52 AM

The base rate of aftermarket is almost 100% when the description says "Pepsi Insert for 16750" vs "Genuine 16750 Pepsi Insert".

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swaini3 · 7 April 2024, 10:41 AM

here's the insert in question. Seller posted some angled shots. Not seeing anything suspect to be honest. If anyone does, pls share so we can learn something.
Apart from some bleeding at 10 (which is possible), it looks fine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235457165387

996marty · 7 April 2024, 01:17 PM

Looking in between #’s 4 and 6 it seems to have a scrape or indentation is that even possible without scratching it?

springer · 7 April 2024, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaini3

here's the insert in question. Seller posted some angled shots. Not seeing anything suspect to be honest. If anyone does, pls share so we can learn something.
Apart from some bleeding at 10 (which is possible), it looks fine.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235457165387

I've been comparing this insert for the past hour or so to several known genuine and aftermarket inserts in my library and can't say one way or the other for sure, but, if I had to make a call, I would agree with Swaini at this time that unless anyone comes up with something substantive it could very well be genuine.

I would rate the condition of this insert to be excellent which is not very common these days for 50-year-old inserts. There seem to be many of these inserts being sold lately in this condition so it would benefit any potential buyer to do some homework on their own to verify if a potential purchase is 100% genuine or not.

Dom9 · 7 April 2024, 08:45 PM

Fascinating if it is a fake and they are now that close to original! If it is being sold; would be interested to know what it is being sold as and what price is being asked. Single post poster feels a bit like it could be a 'spot the error on my replica for me'. Not to cast aspersions on the OP but we've had a few of these recently.

Kingface66 · 7 April 2024, 08:52 PM

The guy’s got a lot of GMT inserts for sale. Here’s three.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716610...mis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716618...mis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716610...mis&media=COPY

omar-rye · 7 April 2024, 09:23 PM

$2,195.00?

swaini3 · 7 April 2024, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omar-rye

$2,195.00?

there's worse for more. It's condition is very good.

TuRo · 8 April 2024, 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingface66

The guy’s got a lot of GMT inserts for sale. Here’s three.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716610...mis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716618...mis&media=COPY

https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716610...mis&media=COPY

Very Interesting A, thanks v much - esteemed insert-asti are those 3 ok in your opinion pls ?

TimeToGo · 8 April 2024, 03:30 AM

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Everything is ok.

TuRo · 8 April 2024, 03:38 AM

Thanks ttg- seems the seller has a golden goose _ something I forgot when I sold all my businesses in 2017 and (slightly forgot) hitherto, had no income whatsoever ....

TimeToGo · 8 April 2024, 03:57 AM

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A respectful Seller that was very active before on VRM.

TuRo · 8 April 2024, 04:03 AM

fair do's.... you, jP and, the swainmeister say likely ok..... I'm groovy.

6 April 2024, 10:12 AM	#2
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,203	Check ebay. There is a guy on ebay selling very deceptive inserts that are not genuine and identified by the seller as aftermarket. If you see one like yours from this seller, then you'll have your answer. I can't remember the guys ebay screen name at this time but he sells them out of Florida. Edit - The seller is oldwatchparts in Sarasota, Florida. Here is a link to one of his auctions. Check the fonts on the insert in question to some of his inserts. https://www.ebay.com/itm/26671353874...Bk9SR47z14zWYw __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

6 April 2024, 04:59 PM	#3
0nly5iv3Digits "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: CANADA Watch: Got a Few :) Posts: 527	Fairly certain not genuine. Call it 90% sure. __________________ ♛16570 Polar/♛16710/♛16610LN/♛116520 White Dial ♛16610LV/♛116710LN/♛126200/Hamilton Khaki Field Mechanical 38mm (WHITE) “UNpolished or I’m not interested” 😎 2FA Enabled

6 April 2024, 06:38 PM	#5
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,534	Paging Mo, can you please come to reception.... __________________ I know a lot of things that you don't You wanna hear some? She said, "Just give me something, anything Well, give me all you got but not love" DIFFERENT FOR GIRLS - Joe Jackson

6 April 2024, 10:35 PM	#7
whatsthetime? "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Joe Location: NY Posts: 1,195	Looks like I see orange peel at the 23 hour from being painted--aren't these supposed to be aluminum inserts? __________________ Submariner 124060 Datejust 16233

6 April 2024, 11:18 PM	#8
springer 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,203	We need someone that doesn't have a day job to stay up with these variations of aftermarket inserts. I can't. A clue, and for me, a significant clue for it being non genuine would be...if it looks new, then it probably is and would not be something I would recommend as genuine. Additionally, before someone adds to my message, yes, I know, they are aging this aftermarket inserts too. As a guide though, if looks new, BEWARE! __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

6 April 2024, 05:39 PM	#4
Antoine2022 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2023 Location: Switzerland Posts: 1	Looks off to me also but wait for the opinion of members with more knowledge

6 April 2024, 10:28 PM	#6
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,433	Not seeing issues with this insert.

7 April 2024, 09:52 AM	#9
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,794	The base rate of aftermarket is almost 100% when the description says "Pepsi Insert for 16750" vs "Genuine 16750 Pepsi Insert". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

7 April 2024, 10:41 AM	#10
swaini3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Real Name: Mo Location: Dubai Watch: 1675 GMT, DRSD Posts: 1,433	here's the insert in question. Seller posted some angled shots. Not seeing anything suspect to be honest. If anyone does, pls share so we can learn something. Apart from some bleeding at 10 (which is possible), it looks fine. https://www.ebay.com/itm/235457165387

7 April 2024, 01:17 PM	#11
996marty "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2019 Location: Uk Watch: RolexGMT/Tudor7928 Posts: 2,710	Looking in between #’s 4 and 6 it seems to have a scrape or indentation is that even possible without scratching it?

7 April 2024, 08:45 PM	#13
Dom9 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Real Name: Dom Location: Surrey, UK Watch: SD16600 & 9411 Posts: 308	Fascinating if it is a fake and they are now that close to original! If it is being sold; would be interested to know what it is being sold as and what price is being asked. Single post poster feels a bit like it could be a 'spot the error on my replica for me'. Not to cast aspersions on the OP but we've had a few of these recently. __________________ Rolex 16610, 16600, Tudor 9411/0 (black and blue) and a black 76100

7 April 2024, 08:52 PM	#14
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,421	The guy’s got a lot of GMT inserts for sale. Here’s three. https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716610...mis&media=COPY https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716618...mis&media=COPY https://www.ebay.com/itm/23545716610...mis&media=COPY __________________

7 April 2024, 09:23 PM	#15
omar-rye "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Location: Underground Posts: 2,106	$2,195.00?

8 April 2024, 03:30 AM	#18
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,597	. Everything is ok.

8 April 2024, 03:38 AM	#19
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,534	Thanks ttg- seems the seller has a golden goose _ something I forgot when I sold all my businesses in 2017 and (slightly forgot) hitherto, had no income whatsoever .... __________________ I know a lot of things that you don't You wanna hear some? She said, "Just give me something, anything Well, give me all you got but not love" DIFFERENT FOR GIRLS - Joe Jackson

8 April 2024, 03:57 AM	#20
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,597	. A respectful Seller that was very active before on VRM.

8 April 2024, 04:03 AM	#21
TuRo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2022 Real Name: Paul Location: Cantabrigia - G.B Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,534	fair do's.... you, jP and, the swainmeister say likely ok..... I'm groovy. __________________ I know a lot of things that you don't You wanna hear some? She said, "Just give me something, anything Well, give me all you got but not love" DIFFERENT FOR GIRLS - Joe Jackson

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