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Old 29 November 2020, 09:35 AM   #1
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Quick question. Had my GMT IIC serviced about 5 years ago. Went to sell it recently and a fiber was detected underneath the crystal when looked at with a jewelers loupe. I sent it back to the place it was serviced and they are trying to tell me that sometimes watches can get dust or debris under the crystal after many years of unscrewing the crown to change the time, date or to wind the watch. Anyone ever experienced this? They want another $750 for full service. I wanted them to do it for free since it wasn’t there until after they serviced it the first time. It’s a Rolex certified company that provides a 2 year international warranty. I just can’t believe that a fiber worked it’s way through the seals and then through the movement and onto the underside of the crystal. There’s no way. Thoughts? What would you do?


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Old 29 November 2020, 09:40 AM   #2
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Rubbish. That fiber was in there somewhere all along. Unscrewing the crown doesn't let anything in unless the seals have disappeared first.
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Old 29 November 2020, 09:42 AM   #3
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Doubt that is the case. All you need is a watchmen to remove the crown, remove the movement / dial assembly and clean / blow sapphire inner side and the dial/ hands to then re-insert. No service required for that!

My watchmen charges $75 for dial swaps which is a bit more complicated so anything over $100 would be too much


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Old 29 November 2020, 09:51 AM   #4
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I agree guys. I was hoping they could just take it apart and clean it, but I was also told that if they do just that, that they can’t guarantee accurate time keeping or water resistance without performing a full service.


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Old 29 November 2020, 11:29 AM   #5
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I bought two new watches recently and both had a very noticeable dust particle. One was Rolex, one Patek. Patek removed the dust in 15 minutes. Rolex took 4 weeks because we had to send it to them. But both covered under warranty no charge and now look great. So it can be removed easily, no worries, just a pain
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Old 29 November 2020, 04:15 PM   #6
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[QUOTE=IgorModel94;11093161]I agree guys. I was hoping they could just take it apart and clean it, but I was also told that if they do just that, that they can’t guarantee accurate time keeping or water resistance without performing a full service./QUOTE]

This has happened to me before. Same situation, but with an RSC, several years after they opened the caseback. Tell them you don't expect them to guarantee water resistance, and you don't need them to adjust the timekeeping but that you would like them to check the timekeeping both before and after they remove the fiber to make sure it's not less accurate afterwards -- and that you're happy to put that in writing. Hopefully they'll agree to that.
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Old 29 November 2020, 04:49 PM   #7
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It would have been inside the case, roaming around.

But 5 years after a service is a bit late to expect them to fix it for you...
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Old 29 November 2020, 05:29 PM   #8
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I agree guys. I was hoping they could just take it apart and clean it, but I was also told that if they do just that, that they can’t guarantee accurate time keeping or water resistance without performing a full service.

Any decent watchmaker should be able to open it and remove the movement carefully enough to get the fiber out.

Upon reassembly, if the timekeeping aspect changed, all you’d ask him to do is an adjustment.

Anytime a watch is opened, a pressure test to 100m should be done.

Can’t imagine why the original watchmaker couldn’t do same - but I agree with Bas that any work would be at your expense.


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Old 29 November 2020, 06:23 PM   #9
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It would have been inside the case, roaming around.

But 5 years after a service is a bit late to expect them to fix it for you...
Have to agree Bas perhaps a touch of today's loupe madness.
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Old 29 November 2020, 06:32 PM   #10
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I had that happen to a brand new Hulk years ago. RSC removed it for free.


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