Omega the worst brand to get a special watch?

[rolex01]

Originally Posted by bondibeach

they have both. Omega boutiques and mixed brands from Swatch group, all belong to same AD. I bought from both a lot.

From your description, It seemed you bought it from an Authorised Dealer and NOT DIRECTLY from an Omega Boutique.

There is GREAT DIFFERENCE.

OB ONLY deal with OMEGA and NOTHING ELSE.

Not even watches within the group.

AD really works differently as compared to OB and when it comes to VIP category as they consider other watches as well.

You might want to confirm this by checking through the omega website to see if the shop you have been buying is it AD or OB.

OB you would have received both, but AD, you are fighting with people who buy in large for other brands and fight with your snoopy and 321.

[2001jesper]

Originally Posted by bondibeach

To get me one of the ordered watches, I would have to make a deal with him and buy a Swatch Group watch from a so called VIP list. This list includes mostly 2-3 year old watches in the range of 25.000 to 50.000€ which seem hard to sell for them.

Agee with above / prev comments. Does not sounds like an OB, as they would not carry other brands (even within the SWATCH Group).

[noobs]

Oh man... sounds like they're abusing your kindness/dedication.

[Polar Bear]

Sell all the stuff you've bought recently and take that money to a Grey Dealer

[Rolexguy$]

I'd have said this is an issue with your dealer but it seems not and down the thread there are similar complaints. With a purchase history as yours, it's only natural that you get a better treatment.
I think you should change to another AD though sad and probably difficult. Maybe start by telling the AD exactly what happened and they might be nice enough to get you the 321 and Snoopy or either for a start sooner.

[bondibeach]

Yes it is an authorized dealer who sells Omega watches in 1) mixed brands stores with a dedicated Omega area and 2) in full omega boutiques, full branding only Omega. I bought from 1 and 2 a lot but all goes to same profile from that AD.

So basically you say no chance, it was a waste of time and effort trying there?

[rolex01]

Originally Posted by bondibeach

Yes it is an authorized dealer who sells Omega watches in 1) mixed brands stores with a dedicated Omega area and 2) in full omega boutiques, full branding only Omega. I bought from 1 and 2 a lot but all goes to same profile from that AD.

So basically you say no chance, it was a waste of time and effort trying there?

Personally, I think your chances of getting it from AD are relatively low, not saying it's 0 chance. Who knows you might get lucky.

If you to build the same amount of money with an Omega Boutique owned and managed DIRECTLY by Swatchgroup, the amount of money invested would give you a snoopy & 321.

Some people might think, what exactly is the difference? Isn't both AD and OB carry the Omega brand that is owned by Swatchgroup?

The main difference is, AD is an Authorised Dealer (3rd party company to SwatchGroup)
That AD company have their own business plan and business decision on how they wish to allocate their watches and generally the stocks level they get are not as many as OB.
AD give good discount and can be as high as 15%

OB is Omega Boutique (Owned and managed by Swatchgroup directly)
- Offers boutique edition watches, and typically has way higher stock allocations on popular timepieces.
- Generally, OB don't give any discount.

There is a huge difference between these two.

[logo]

Originally Posted by bondibeach

Yes it is an authorized dealer who sells Omega watches in 1) mixed brands stores with a dedicated Omega area and 2) in full omega boutiques, full branding only Omega. I bought from 1 and 2 a lot but all goes to same profile from that AD.

So basically you say no chance, it was a waste of time and effort trying there?

https://www.omegawatches.com/store/s...Omega+Boutique

Very simply, if your seller is not on the list as an Omega Boutique (not Omega authorized retailer) then your odds for a 321 or Snoopy are slim to none from them, and they might have been (knowingly or unknowingly) stringing you along for a carrot you’ll never catch.

[DoricSpiker]

Originally Posted by bondibeach

Yes it is an authorized dealer who sells Omega watches in 1) mixed brands stores with a dedicated Omega area and 2) in full omega boutiques, full branding only Omega. I bought from 1 and 2 a lot but all goes to same profile from that AD.

So basically you say no chance, it was a waste of time and effort trying there?

Have a look and see if there are Omega owned Boutiques in Germany. There are 2 types of Boutique, an Omega owned and an AD owned. The Omega owned ones are by far the best for Snoopies and 321's. Omega are sending them to their own Boutiques because they don't trust AD to behave responsibly. Your case is a great example. I think they tell you which ones are owned by Omega, on the Omega website.

Good luck, I feel for you. I do not believe an Omega owned Boutique would treat you this way. All they are interested in, is getting the watches to enthusiasts, that's my experience anyway. They want to know you love watches and won't flip, that's it!

[RolexBHR]

Originally Posted by DoricSpiker

Have a look and see if there are Omega owned Boutiques in Germany. There are 2 types of Boutique, an Omega owned and an AD owned. The Omega owned ones are by far the best for Snoopies and 321's. Omega are sending them to their own Boutiques because they don't trust AD to behave responsibly. Your case is a great example. I think they tell you which ones are owned by Omega, on the Omega website.

Good luck, I feel for you. I do not believe an Omega owned Boutique would treat you this way. All they are interested in, is getting the watches to enthusiasts, that's my experience anyway. They want to know you love watches and won't flip, that's it!

Unfortunately, were I am there is one Boutique and one AD. The Omega boutique is owned by a family business that also has other Boutiques such as Patek, Vacheron, JLC, Breguet etc, so even though it is an Omega boutique you can imagine how they prioritizes whom to give since they also own other Boutiques for much more expensive brands with clients spending much more than your typical Omega client, so as a family business they will prioritize who they see is better for their future business. The other is an AD which is majority owned by Swatch Group that sells Swatch group brands only and so far (according to the SA manager) they have not received a single Snoopy or 321 and according to them I am on the list, but now I am starting to have doubts they will ever receive one since they are an AD and not a Boutique.

[rolex01]

Originally Posted by RolexBHR

Unfortunately, were I am there is one Boutique and one AD. The Omega boutique is owned by a family business that also has other Boutiques such as Patek, Vacheron, JLC, Breguet etc, so even though it is an Omega boutique you can imagine how they prioritizes whom to give since they also own other Boutiques for much more expensive brands with clients spending much more than your typical Omega client, so as a family business they will prioritize who they see is better for their future business. The other is an AD which is majority owned by Swatch Group that sells Swatch group brands only and so far (according to the SA manager) they have not received a single Snoopy or 321 and according to them I am on the list, but now I am starting to have doubts they will ever receive one since they are an AD and not a Boutique.

Omega Boutique owned by family business is also known as AD, Boutique opened and operated by that family business. Sorry to burst the bubble, but this is NOT OB.

OB are 100% run and managed by Omega themselves and no one else.

[bondibeach]

Originally Posted by RolexBHR

Unfortunately, were I am there is one Boutique and one AD. The Omega boutique is owned by a family business that also has other Boutiques such as Patek, Vacheron, JLC, Breguet etc, so even though it is an Omega boutique you can imagine how they prioritizes whom to give since they also own other Boutiques for much more expensive brands with clients spending much more than your typical Omega client, so as a family business they will prioritize who they see is better for their future business. The other is an AD which is majority owned by Swatch Group that sells Swatch group brands only and so far (according to the SA manager) they have not received a single Snoopy or 321 and according to them I am on the list, but now I am starting to have doubts they will ever receive one since they are an AD and not a Boutique.

In case you have the R AD in your city, they will probably have some VIP list with a list of some old stock high value watches you have to buy to be able to get one of the 2 mentioned pieces.

[salnuaimi]

I had to buy 2 watches (non omega ) worth of 30,000 USD to get snoopy and 321 at retail

This is from an AD

[brandrea]

You won’t get a 321 or a Snoopy anywhere other than an Omega Boutique.

Good luck OP. It’s doable, but you’ll need to seek out your closest OB, express your interest and patiently wait.

When the 321 was launched my AD told me they could get one for me if I paid a 50% deposit. I was leary about doing this as I’d read here and elsewhere that it was a boutique only reference. I politely declined.

I think a lot of AD’s were either misinformed or worse a few may mislead their clients

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by salnuaimi

I had to buy 2 watches (non omega ) worth of 30,000 USD to get snoopy and 321 at retail

This is from an AD

You’re certain that’s not an OB?

It doesn’t work that way here

[JohnGingerwood]

I would have the blame that on the area you are in. Definitely not the case in the US.

[RolexBHR]

Originally Posted by rolex01

Omega Boutique owned by family business is also known as AD, Boutique opened and operated by that family business. Sorry to burst the bubble, but this is NOT OB.

OB are 100% run and managed by Omega themselves and no one else.

Thats good to know, in that case we don't have a boutique around here

Is there anywhere online to find out the nearest boutique thats not family owned etc?

[VogelPhoenix]

Originally Posted by DoricSpiker

Have a look and see if there are Omega owned Boutiques in Germany. There are 2 types of Boutique, an Omega owned and an AD owned.

I didn't see if OP provided more details, but none of the 5 stores in Duesseldorf are Omega boutiques. I've only been to the Boutiques in Frankfurt and Munich, but neglected to ask whether they were truly Omega-owned, or joint ventures (but they are listed as Boutiques on the Omega website, which is a necessary condition).

edit: The Frankfurt boutique manager lists Omega SA as his employer, so there you go...

[2001jesper]

Originally Posted by bondibeach

Yes it is an authorized dealer who sells Omega watches in 1) mixed brands stores with a dedicated Omega area and 2) in full omega boutiques, full branding only Omega. I bought from 1 and 2 a lot but all goes to same profile from that AD.

So basically you say no chance, it was a waste of time and effort trying there?

Waste of time as other have said. ADs only get a tiny allocation, and you are competing with the AD's other VIPs across brands. You need to do this via a real OB

I have bought via the OB in Hamburg, on the list and never physically been in the store - They are great!

Just send a mail <OmegaBoutique.INSERTCITY@swatchgroup.com>

[amanbra]

So my boutique delivered again. Day after the snoopy was announced I sent them a 20% deposit and 1 year and 9 months later here we are.

The wait was a pain but they delivered without me having to buy stuff I only half wanted.


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[brandrea]

Originally Posted by amanbra

So my boutique delivered again. Day after the snoopy was announced I sent them a 20% deposit and 1 year and 9 months later here we are.

The wait was a pain but they delivered without me having to buy stuff I only half wanted.


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Exactly as it should be (maybe not the wait so much).

Congratulations again on the Snoopy

[amanbra]

Originally Posted by brandrea

Exactly as it should be (maybe not the wait so much).

Congratulations again on the Snoopy

congrats on your 321

[brandrea]

Originally Posted by amanbra

congrats on your 321

thank you

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[rolex01]

Originally Posted by amanbra

So my boutique delivered again. Day after the snoopy was announced I sent them a 20% deposit and 1 year and 9 months later here we are.

The wait was a pain but they delivered without me having to buy stuff I only half wanted.


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Congrats on your snoopy without the need to make any purchases. This should be the correct way.

[shawn13ca]

They are laughing at you. They know you gotta be a real connoisseur to want the 321 and spend the premium. So they're trying to milk you all they can, since for regular people wanting a speedy, they will never pay a premium for the 321.

[bondibeach]

yea I am done with them. Those business practices should be illegal as they are wasting the time of many people and try to trick them into buying more stuff. At the end not even delivering what they promised. If it wouldn't be about luxury watches, this would have been a scandal long time ago in the mass media.

[red1108nyc]

I am sorry to hear and hope things get better for you in your region. My Omega boutique experience here in the U.S. has been nothing but class and I too, had to wait 2 years before my Snoopy arrived. Just too much demand into 321/Snoopy right now.

[Londonboy]

If you have truly decided to end your association with the store that has been giving you the run around. (personally I think they've treated you very badly)

Send a link to this thread to the manager of that store

Send a link to this thread to an area manager, or the next person up the "food chain" in your area

GL

[Londonboy]

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