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Old 22 April 2024, 03:22 AM   #31
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Thank you all, will update if I proceed. I had a chance to meet someone this week with a 5004, tough choice between a 5970P and 5004P


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5004P is amazing- look at Roni’s piece unique!!!


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Old 29 April 2024, 12:00 AM   #32
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The 5004P is a Patek collector’s dream. The ultimate Patek.
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Old 29 April 2024, 12:04 AM   #33
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I saw a listing around that from watches of Mayfair I think in HK?

The 5270/1R going for cheap too.


Much like the modern Daytona it’s hard to ignore the sub dials not sitting at 9-3.

I have a picture of a 2499 in my home office and my wife goes look there’s daddy’s watch. I said yes mommy I’ll take one for my birthday. Get your checkbook.

Hard to ignore how much better their designs get the further back you go.
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I am just a little afraid the 5004 might be a little small


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It’s so different to the G and R.


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It’s so different to the G and R. I love them all. Happy to have all 3


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The P is something special but IMO the most boring one out of all three.

I guess the G is the most versatile for daily use while the R is simply amazing and really pops.

What about adding a J now?
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No its not. Btw there are different dial configurations for the 5004p
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The P is something special but IMO the most boring one out of all three.

I guess the G is the most versatile for daily use while the R is simply amazing and really pops.

What about adding a J now?

I haven’t seen a J in person but I believe the dial is white instead of the silver on R. I dont really like the white dial and J combination


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No its not. Btw there are different dial configurations for the 5004p

The baton indexes are only for the steel version I believe?


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Way different to a 5270p. Most ordered sold very quickly and if there were any left un allocated sold instantly after being discontinued (dont think there were really any sitting). The application pieces now really only apply to enamel worldtime, minuet repeaters, tourbillion and the grandmaster chime. Split seconds & PCC are depending on region, just supplied to AD’s as normal

I think the 5270p would sell better if it was a true salmon colour as when i saw it, looked more golden. The blackened gold numerals & hands probably play some part also as its more sporty than traditional

My AD received 2-3 5270p’s so far so you can assume there will be approximately around 1,000 of them if not more. 5970p is around the 500 mark so Patek these days have been overproducing on the grand comps


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i totally agree with your conclusions. 5270P salmon dial was pretty much readily available and green dial is as well. there is even one for sale on the rüschenbeck webpage in germany.
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