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Old 15 August 2018, 01:51 AM   #31
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These things are meant to be worn folks, and no offense, but if it costs you your peace of mind, then maybe it's too expensive for you and you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. Better stick to a ceramic Sub.
Who said it hurts anyone's peace of mind? Some just prefer their watches perfect and some do not care. To each their own!
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Old 15 August 2018, 01:56 AM   #32
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"neither the Nautilus nor the Aquanaut are particularly great daily watches because of the delicate bezel. Best looking watches in the world when mint, not so great looking when scraped up"
That is different than saying, your quote my emphasis, "Why does a daily *need to* get beat up?" A daily doesn't need to get beat up, a daily can just be a daily. But ... my opinion is that these two aren't great daily watches because *in normal use* that bezel is rather easily damaged and I don't like a scratched bezel. You have every right to have a different opinion but don't misquote me.
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Old 15 August 2018, 01:58 AM   #33
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Who said it hurts anyone's peace of mind? Some just prefer their watches perfect and some do not care. To each their own!
I second this x1000. If you want to wear your Patek running with the bulls or leave it in the safe and visit it once a year, that is YOUR CHOICE. There's a tendency in the forum to tell other folks how they should enjoy their collection. I say, whatever makes you happy that is the whole point of this somewhat ridiculous hobby!
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Old 15 August 2018, 02:11 AM   #34
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That is different than saying, your quote my emphasis, "Why does a daily *need to* get beat up?" A daily doesn't need to get beat up, a daily can just be a daily. But ... my opinion is that these two aren't great daily watches because *in normal use* that bezel is rather easily damaged and I don't like a scratched bezel. You have every right to have a different opinion but don't misquote me.
As I said, I meant no offense. I just see no point in owning a watch you'll be paranoid about getting any normal wear on them. How can you enjoy it while its sitting on a safe?

In the meantime, I'm enjoying mine. Here's some pics of my daily-worn/well-loved 5167.





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Old 15 August 2018, 02:24 AM   #35
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As I said, I meant no offense. I just see no point in owning a watch you'll be paranoid about getting any normal wear on them. How can you enjoy it while its sitting on a safe?

In the meantime, I'm enjoying mine. Here's some pics of my daily-worn/well-loved 5167.





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No offense taken. I wear the 5711 / 5712 often but not on a daily basis and they make me very happy. Nice 5167 btw!
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Old 15 August 2018, 04:28 AM   #36
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Semantics aside, neither the Nautilus nor the Aquanaut are particularly great daily watches because of the delicate bezel. Best looking watches in the world when mint, not so great looking when scraped up. All the usual disclaimers: imho, YMMV, etc.
Agree that thee bezel doesn't look great when scraped up, but daily wear doesn't mean that has to happen. I operate with an almost natural, OCD-level of wrist awareness and my RO/Nautilus bezels have held up exceptionally well. Of course, it was an expensive lesson learned from my earlier days of wearing ROOs, where I ruined a good number of bezels.
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Old 15 August 2018, 05:07 AM   #37
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Agree that thee bezel doesn't look great when scraped up, but daily wear doesn't mean that has to happen. I operate with an almost natural, OCD-level of wrist awareness and my RO/Nautilus bezels have held up exceptionally well. Of course, it was an expensive lesson learned from my earlier days of wearing ROOs, where I ruined a good number of bezels.
Similar experience here - learned a hard lesson on my AP RO City of Sails ... I'm honestly jealous of those who aren't bothered in the slightest by imperfect bezels, it does drive me a bit nuts. Bracelet and case scratches don't bother me nearly as much.
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Old 15 August 2018, 05:35 AM   #38
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The 5167 is surely my beater watch!

It’s taken its share of hits, even a ding to the case, but I just love it all the more


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Old 15 August 2018, 06:11 AM   #39
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Why does a daily need to get beat up? Unless your daily includes home renovations, or anything of the sort...

Both my Aquanaut and Nautilus are very safe on my wrist. I wear them every day in rotation.

If not, then why even own it?

These things are meant to be worn folks, and no offense, but if it costs you your peace of mind, then maybe it's too expensive for you and you shouldn't have bought it in the first place. Better stick to a ceramic Sub.
Don't start using affordability in your posts, quickest way for things to degenerate and to get banned.
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Old 15 August 2018, 07:35 AM   #40
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I love my 5167 and wear it pretty much every day but definitely don't subject it to the same environments I've subjected Rolexes to (diving, alpine climbing, etc.).

Rolex is the best tool watch in the world. Scratches, no problem!
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Old 15 August 2018, 08:06 AM   #41
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I think almost every watch can and should be a potential daily wearer, except for rose gold or yellow gold watches.
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Old 15 August 2018, 09:15 AM   #42
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Don't start using affordability in your posts, quickest way for things to degenerate and to get banned.
I guess I have to edit my signature then.
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Old 15 August 2018, 10:31 AM   #43
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You can use it daily, I used to own one and it’s super light and comfortable.
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Old 15 August 2018, 09:18 PM   #44
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The 5167 is a great daily wearer, just wear it more than I diid (see thead Aquanaut 5167A-001 service/repair). I am no a safe queen and wear everything but probably need to reduce my collection:chuckle
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Old 15 August 2018, 09:36 PM   #45
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Mine certainly isn't a beater. I desperately want it to not be a safe queen either but ATM it spends most of its days like in this pic :-( Every time I get it out to wear it I have it on for about 1/2 an hour round the house and then end up changing it.

Not sure if it'll stay or go at the moment. It may be just a little too refined for me.




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Old 15 August 2018, 09:40 PM   #46
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Mine certainly isn't a beater. I desperately want it to not be a safe queen either but ATM it spends most of its days like in this pic :-( Every time I get it out to wear it I have it on for about 1/2 an hour round the house and then end up changing it.

Not sure if it'll stay or go at the moment. It may be just a little too refined for me.




i just don't get it. 99% of scratches and dings on my watches are on bracelets. The aquanaut with the rubber strap takes care of this. Sure my clasp gets dinged up but i never see it anyway as its underneath my line of vision.

I dont baby my 5164 at all and the bezel looks great still.
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Old 15 August 2018, 11:39 PM   #48
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Mine certainly isn't a beater. I desperately want it to not be a safe queen either but ATM it spends most of its days like in this pic :-( Every time I get it out to wear it I have it on for about 1/2 an hour round the house and then end up changing it.

Not sure if it'll stay or go at the moment. It may be just a little too refined for me.




Sell it to me, I need a backup , or wear one on each wrist and get GMT!!
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:30 AM   #49
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A few days skimboarding on the beach, perhaps some off-road biking too. Yeah, that'll teach that watch who's boss 'round here!

These are a few of my favorite things to do while wearing the Hulk.
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:34 AM   #50
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You must be good at keeping the rubber facing the tarmac Eddie?

Ever had to set a bike down wearing a watch? Surely you’d be covered in leather regardless
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:54 AM   #51
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Good daily wear watch...don't over think it.
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Old 16 August 2018, 02:47 AM   #52
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I wear my aquanaut every day. It’s slim, legible, accurate and easily the most comfortable watch I’ve worn in years. I look after it as it’s an expensive piece but don’t get too hung up about the odd ding.
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Old 16 August 2018, 04:37 AM   #53
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As I said, I meant no offense. I just see no point in owning a watch you'll be paranoid about getting any normal wear on them. How can you enjoy it while its sitting on a safe?

In the meantime, I'm enjoying mine. Here's some pics of my daily-worn/well-loved 5167.





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Old 16 August 2018, 07:20 AM   #54
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Mine certainly isn't a beater. I desperately want it to not be a safe queen either but ATM it spends most of its days like in this pic :-( Every time I get it out to wear it I have it on for about 1/2 an hour round the house and then end up changing it.



Not sure if it'll stay or go at the moment. It may be just a little too refined for me.











In order to get over that psychological hump, I think you need to commit a week to wearing it all day, 7 days in a row. It’s a Patek that’s meant to be work daily IMO. Yes it’s 20k and yes secondary market continues to drift upward, but for me (as is true for nearly all my watches), I paid the money to wear it. If I don’t wear it, I’d feel I just wasted $20k.


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In order to get over that psychological hump, I think you need to commit a week to wearing it all day, 7 days in a row. It’s a Patek that’s meant to be work daily IMO. Yes it’s 20k and yes secondary market continues to drift upward, but for me (as is true for nearly all my watches), I paid the money to wear it. If I don’t wear it, I’d feel I just wasted $20k.


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Yep! Take it to the pool, beach, and get it dirty. It becomes part of your wrist and very hard to take off.
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Old 16 August 2018, 09:03 AM   #56
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As per most, i don’t see any issues as a daily wearer.

But no, it’s not a beater watch in my book. In my view something which meets that definition should ultimately be disposable and replaceable without a moments thought.

Set cost to one side, significantly damaging something of such beauty and ‘wasting’ the artisanship which has gone into it by someone just doesn’t quite sit right. And I’m not talking about surface level scratches here - but far more mechanically relevant damage / severe aesthetic change.

Big difference to me at least between a daily wearer and an actual beater watch which will be treated roughly, bounced around, mis-thrown into gym bags, scraped and scratched and used for ANY task or circumstance where loss or catastrophic damage are of a high likelihood.
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Old 16 August 2018, 01:03 PM   #57
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I don't have beater watches because I'll even remove an inexpensive watch if I think it will get damaged by an activity. I wear a 5167 in rotation for office work and on leisure time, usually in casual dress. If it gets dinged, it's in spite of my being careful. Same goes for my Rolexes.
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a 5167 would not look good all beat up but i think an explorer II would. So it depends on if it would add to the look or at a minimum not detract from it. No Patek falls into that category IMO.

A beater watch needs to be like Rimowa luggage, scratches and dents makes it cool.
I dont know, I think this 5167 looks great all beat up.

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I dont know, I think this 5167 looks great all beat up.

Was just about to post this...

I don’t care for the term beater, but I actually think the aquanaut looks fine scuffed up and used as intended
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Not mine, but the Nautilus appears to hold its own with love scars as well.


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