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18 August 2011, 10:20 PM
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When did Orchi said Orchi was merely bitter about VRF in here so far...? For the record...despite what had transpired n what Orchi had experienced in VRF... Orchi still has highest regards for VRF n its owner/certain Moderators n many Buddies there... n Orchi stressed that..."the journey in VRF shall continue..." 2ndly...please do not speculate while you have only 1/2 of infos that Orchi provided regarding Orchi's watches n what Orchi does with it... The watch of your keen interest to know of its faith... was NOT sold to anyone...or anything even remotely like that... When Orchi made a promise...Orchi never backs out of it... Under the circumstances that you don't know...or even when you do... but perhaps you may not be wanting to accept it... which so far Orchi has neither the good nor the bad news to tell anyone... at this moment... But when Orchi does...you would be amongst the 1st to know... Regarding what you said about Jason's complaints or qualms with the Seller in VRF... you has just said clearly that "may be Roger...me...mike wood..." did not make any comment on the incident... but why may Orch asked...you didn't n why would Buddy Roger(Mod) not do so too...at that time? Could you honestly say the same when the OP here posted his complaints... n posting in VRF...did you or Buddy Roger(Mod) not made any comments too? Could it be due to the fact that you or Buddy Roger knew Buddy Jason better...? IF not so...would you say the same that you don't know Buddy Roger Moore at all...n shouldn't he too be appreciated n treated with same privilege of speaking his minds on that matter...or be given the same benefits of doubts to explain his opinions... IF so...why was there no censorship or intervention... while he was being called a "Troll" n his postings were deleted without any explanation given to him at the very least...? Lastly Orchi didn't say a BIG collector or Seller would enjoy more privilege given by the forum itself...but rather it was probably more from the fans n friends that he would have in the forum... Common! Maybe Orchi is wrong or you just don't wish to acknowledge that... |
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18 August 2011, 10:24 PM
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I agree...but michael you ARE accusing someone of something ...you are accusing me of breaking rules 1,2 and 3 you make that very very clear and i wonder why you are having a go at me for breaking the rules yet you sit back and happily allow Orchi to make such a blatant accusation against a fellow member and say nothing .....nor chastise orchi for bringing up another subject from VRF that takes the thread on a whole other tangent......i wonder why i get the highlighted rules section and he doesn't...
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18 August 2011, 10:31 PM
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Real Name: Michael
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I was not accusing, I was saying that those rules were broken...statement of fact, not accusation.
Nice wording Jedly, not really shooting straight there are we.....I said I would not post here again, but I will say that I have just requested this thread to be closed after reading the last post by Orchi........this is NOT our (TRF) business, take it back to VRF or by PM... PLEASE...... |
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18 August 2011, 10:35 PM
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Guys, think this thread has run it's course, can we all shake hands and be friends again..and post some vintage watch pictures:)
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18 August 2011, 10:40 PM
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Regarding what you said about Jason's complaints or qualms with the Seller in VRF...
you has just said clearly that "may be Roger...me...mike wood..." did not make any comment on the incident... but why may Orch asked...you didn't n why would Buddy Roger(Mod) not do so too...at that time? i did not make comments on jasons thread for two reasons... 1. no one directly asked or implied what the moderators role in this was..so there was nothing for me to answer...they did yesterday which is why i got involved. 2. I was in Italy on holiday Could you honestly say the same when the OP here posted his complaints... n posting in VRF...did you or Buddy Roger(Mod) not made any comments too? I did not comment on Roger moores thread on vrf yesterday, neither did roger T to the best of my knowledge. Richard deleted the thread because he feels that any specific problems should be rpeorted and will be dealt with by the moderating team with specific details given so they can be weighed and measured accordingly Could it be due to the fact that you or Buddy Roger knew Buddy Jason better...? NO it could not.,..and again i take the implication as an insult.... IF not so...would you say the same that you don't know Buddy Roger Moore at all...n shouldn't he too be appreciated n treated with same privilege of speaking his minds on that matter...or be given the same benefits of doubts to explain his opinions... Jasons thread was locked and Jason was kicked out and told he was being a troll...same treatment...a level playing field ..wether you agree it is right or wrong... IF so...why was there no censorship or intervention... while he was being called a "Troll" n his postings were deleted without any explanation given to him at the very least...? same as above Lastly Orchi didn't say a BIG collector or Seller would enjoy more privilege given by the forum itself...but rather it was probably more from the fans n friends that he would have in the forum... yes you implied and again above...that moderating would be done differently for people I and the others knew as friends..that is an insult to both our integrity and our honesty and fits in with the exact passive aggressive behaviour fred noticed from you earlier in the year Common! Maybe Orchi is wrong or you just don't wish to acknowledge that...[/QUOTE] Yes Orchi is wrong. |
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18 August 2011, 10:41 PM
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 but I think not. |
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18 August 2011, 10:56 PM
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Funny how dealers and their budies from VRF defend what is indefensible imho.
1000% with Roger on this. Just one example that I think would be impossible elsewhere: A important and contributing member of VRF (as well as a friend of the mods too???) tries to sell fake vintage submariner cases. And what's next???? Just a kind and friendly warning..... http://www.network54.com/Forum/20767...o+not+%28nt%29 Jed, Nikos and others VRF budies, please tell me: If I try to sell fake items on VRF, do you really think I won't be kicked out and definitely banned from the Forum? And by the way, thank you for the good laugh when you assert that you were considering purchasing the 1675 we are talking about.... very funny.... |
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18 August 2011, 11:04 PM
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if you knowingly do it yes you will...if you are naive and don't know what you are doing that will be pointed out to you and maybe you will be given the benfit of the doubt and as soon as it was seen it was locked and highlighted for the benefit of the memebrship..the therad was allowed to stand to act as a warning and highlight
as for lamone ..i belive he is a contributing member here rather than on VRF and he to the best of my knowledge is no friend of any of the mod team ...another case of 2+2 = 5.... and what exactly do you think is so funny about buying the 1675 ? for anyone who knows anything about values and the subject matter it is a good price, the fact that you think it funny shows that you do not..... and please point me to where i have disagreed with rogers post ......or defended against what he has said...you can simply cut and paste anywhere that i have said anything negative about it. |
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18 August 2011, 11:07 PM
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Now this is a different post......
 The bottom case, 1675, serial no 3.3M would appear to be fake, the 6542 case also and probably obtained from Y**I, also the serial number on the papers does not appear on any of the cases. For what its worth.....
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18 August 2011, 11:09 PM
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Laugh? I see he sold the watch the next day in a VERY slow vintage market where things are only moving if they are VERY cheap or VERY RARE. http://www.rolexforums.com/showthrea...highlight=1675 As for the 1675 I have paid more for worse and less for better. And yes I was thinking of buying it as I have more than a few PCG 1675 and am always looking for more. I dont see any for 3700 euro do you? If so kindly forward them to me. I had no problem with that watch at all I am a big boy and know what I am getting into and know the market well.
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18 August 2011, 11:12 PM
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That is the point: Seems it was not the first time, and that this budy is not a naďve person...... and he was already warned not to sell fake items before. No good faith here, just indulgence to say the least...... |
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18 August 2011, 11:23 PM
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you are looking for shadows in the dark that do not exist ....lamone is not a 'buddy' of anyone on the vrf moderating team, nor has he been afforded any special treatment ...to the best of my knowledge he is not a commercial dealer , and most of what i know about him is as a member of good standing here on this forum and if i did want to know his standing here is where i would come to look.
http://www.rolexforums.com/member.php?u=7343 we generally give people the benefit of the doubt because generally most people , like the guy with the gmt yesterday, act without malice.... so you are also incorrect in your insinuation ...and i still wait for you to cut and paste the section where i defended against a point roger made.... |
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18 August 2011, 11:31 PM
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I don't think that your possibly "smart or sarcastic" comments are fooling anyone. Can you please let us know when you will change the topic away from VRF and back on topic?? |
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18 August 2011, 11:32 PM
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Real Name: Michael
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duplicate..
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18 August 2011, 11:38 PM
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Greekbum, i just read your post. you are a pro and you clearly understand the value of the parts that comprise that 1675. however, there are a significant group of people that are members of these boards that have no idea what they are buying. we need exactly these newbies to perpetuate interest in our hobby. otherwise, it will collapse. heavily reworked watches with incorrect dials and hands, should be accurately described as such.
otherwise its like selling a ferrari with a 426 hemihead, and saying it runs great... and parting it out should recover 100% of the investment. harry |
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18 August 2011, 11:39 PM
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what is your problem ???...was it me who raised a whole other topic of fake cases or made another set of insinuations ...no it wasnt , i merely responded ...so why are you having a pop at me and blaming me for the subject matter ? ( which you egged on by responding to
and there are no smart or sarcastic answers just honest ones ...someone states something clearly that i am defending against the indefensible with regards to Rogers post ....but they cant actually show that because if they bothered reading the thread they'd realise i hadn't actually done that anywhere. what isn't fooling anybody is that you waded into defend your 'buddy' and after having a go at me for defending myslef want to shut the topic down.... |
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18 August 2011, 11:41 PM
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Fantastically put Roger. I have had similar experiences over there. It seems that if you don't own a half mil worth of watches and participate in the yearly "Passion" meeting then you are not worth much in their eyes. Good on you, I think this should be cut and posted by every member here.
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18 August 2011, 11:41 PM
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GUyss................... ok, a bit of time out..............it's going to be f...ing akward when we call catch up at the next big MElb/SYD GTG ...... and we know we will !!!!
...... Tomorrow is friday,..... life is too short........I think we talked about this enough.......feek it , lets move on...........;) |
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18 August 2011, 11:44 PM
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Enough for me...
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19 August 2011, 12:04 AM
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I was afraid this was going to happen...
Why can't we just relax and get along... It's all good just enjoy the ride.
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