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19 August 2011, 04:46 AM
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Thoughts on this 1675?
Hi all,
I'm a newbie to the forum but have gotten the vintage bug and I wanted to get some opinions on this watch. It's a 3,xxx,xxx serial. Was curious about the lume, dial and hands and whether or not the case/band have been polished. Many thanks to all.
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19 August 2011, 05:10 AM
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Looks very nice, there is a great dial reference here http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=74976
written by Orchi which is really useful. I'm sure some of the Forums real experts will chime in with their comments soon. |
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19 August 2011, 06:12 AM
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Very nice example. I would have to assume it's completely overhauled... or maybe brand new old stock :)
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19 August 2011, 06:14 AM
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You couldn't ask for a better example. this should fetch a premium.
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19 August 2011, 06:22 AM
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That's a gorgeous MK1 Matte dial, notice the long E and L in the word Rolex. Matching tritium hands! Patina looks very nice on both plots and hands. Case looks to be polished, but I see a little chamfer on the lugs. It's hard to tell because of the angles and light. As for the band, it is a C&I made for rolex. Others with more knowledge will chime in soon o be patient. In the meantime, ask seller about the end link numbers and also about the stretch of the band.
Looking at it again, I can see the band is dated to 73 which matches a 3Xmillion serial. Band is possibly original to watch. That's a good find! Pete Last edited by pdoukas; 19 August 2011 at 06:25 AM.. Reason: 2nd opinion |
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19 August 2011, 06:44 AM
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I agree with Pete. While the case has been polished, it looks and presents very nicely. I don't care for it when someone sends the watch back for service and they put a factory looking chamfer on a thin lug. What I like about it is it is not trying to be something its not. Patina on the dial and hands is gorgeous. For the most part, with the exception of the insert which may be newer, watch also appears to be period correct. All in all a very attractive piece that will make someone very happy.
It is interesting to note that if the watch is from 1973 like the bracelet indicates ( I realize that might not be the case at all ) then a Mk II dial might be more correct. I say this based on the Rolex Reference Library Gmt Dial Variants thread. However, my own 1675 is from the 72/73 era and has a Mk I dial as well.
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19 August 2011, 07:07 AM
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19 August 2011, 07:29 AM
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that looks very nice. it does look like it's had a polish but still retains some lovely chamfers...
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19 August 2011, 08:37 AM
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I too guess the date from early to mid 70s. My first GMT was the same
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19 August 2011, 10:06 AM
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Looks like a mk1
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19 August 2011, 10:08 AM
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whew, looks sweet, just make sure all the other originality boxes tick.:)
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19 August 2011, 10:13 AM
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looks like a really nice honest example that's been well cared for.
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19 August 2011, 10:26 AM
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Also, it has nice patina. Looks like a solid example!!
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19 August 2011, 11:02 AM
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I agree with Beaumont. The case has been polished, but 99.9% of the vintage watches have polished cases. The dial and hands appear original. The bezel insert has been replaced at one time and appears to be an original insert though. Looks like a very fine piece!
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19 August 2011, 03:28 PM
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Thanks for all the feedback all! Appreciate the information.
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19 August 2011, 04:42 PM
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very nice, congrats.
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19 August 2011, 05:01 PM
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the trouble may arise with this kind of post seeking comments... whereby IF Orchi gives a frank opinion about it... fearing it might project a negative image of the watch... which might offend the OP or the Seller... who could be watching this forum also... 
Last edited by Earl; 19 August 2011 at 08:50 PM.. Reason: Orchi, So why respond?. |
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19 August 2011, 08:01 PM
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I don't like the way the case has been polished. Look at the lower left and upper right lug holes... It seems like they underwent a massive explosion or so :)
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19 August 2011, 10:57 PM
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Man the patina is beautifully matching and the watch looks in great condition. Looks like a fine example 1675
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20 August 2011, 12:38 AM
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People, such as myself, value the positive and negative opinions that forum members post so that they can add another level of due diligence to their arsenal of research. Directly, your research and posts, along those with Mike's, provided me the passion that guided me to the purchase of my 16760 "no-date" fat lady. However, all decisions regarding the purchase and any subsequent actions, are entirely dependent on my actions. If I were to be unhappy with the purchase or watch after the fact, that is not a reflection upon you or forum members but of myself. If I were to blame others, if that were the case, then I would have had no business asking to begin with. Forum members, such as yourself, who are hobbyists collectors and share a passion for their collection are not responsible for the actions of others. You are, however, valuable resources so that others may learn and share knowledge so that we can hopefully become as wise as those who are "more knowing". Just my humble opinion. Pete |
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20 August 2011, 01:45 AM
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Orchi, i love your comments and have learned a lot from you. i am confident that the mods on THIS forum would allow you to state what you think about a watch.
a seller posts a pics on here for all to see to get a sale, which is allowed. if a buyer is permitted to solicit comments in another thread, i cant see how you are doing anything wrong by contributing a comment. is a seller permitted to block a thread requesting comments on his piece? or phrased differently, should a buyer be required to obtain authorization for such a post from the Mods ? |
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20 August 2011, 02:18 AM
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Orchi - man
 I'll put the cards on the table and confirm what some have already presumed, I am the seller of this watch (it is on consignment from an old collector-friend of mine). The OP is the potential buyer, and we both want to learn. So I welcome your comments, we seek to learn from your wisdom 
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20 August 2011, 02:33 AM
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Err Buddies...thanks for your understanding on the matter...
Back to the topic at hand... Orchi sees the following... 1. Case had been over-repolished... 2. The lugs had been shaved...(shorter at 2 o'clock...n rest uneven) 3. Endlinks would not fit nicely due to item 2 above... 4. Mk.1 Dial though in pristine conditions...could possibly be a bit late for Case serial... 5. No pics of movement n inside CB...so can't offer any comments on it... Perhaps Orchi has a weakness due to being picky... but that's what Orchi is... Sorry... 
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20 August 2011, 02:33 AM
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Has buying and selling vintage come to this? Orchi's assessment is correct IMHO and this IMHO is a decent watch. I think it all comes down to price and what your willing to pay for. Is the OP looking for a like NOS version of a 1675 and willing to pay what 1 in this condition could go for? 5-10 maybe even 15k as I never see any for sale.I am a GMT guy and in 20 years and 100's of 1675 I have gotten a few mint no excuse ones. Greg how much are you asking for this 1675 ?
I am an active buyer of all 1675 and to help I will show you what I see recently I cannot find even a donor 1675 watch for under $2200-$2500 this is a watch that has many issues and will be used for parts. Most likely over polished case water damage,redial, after market parts maybe running but maybe not $3000-$3500 I still cannot find a decent case dial fixer upper that may require a minimum of $1000 to get decent And so on.. Realistic expectations for realistic prices
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20 August 2011, 02:48 AM
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20 August 2011, 02:48 AM
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I'm awestruck by the knowledge on here. I'm quite the neophyte and Greg has been an absolute gentleman through this process. I had purchased a few Montblancs from Greg and had mentioned that I was curious about vintage pieces especially the GMT and as it happens this piece came up for consignment. Honestly I know very little except for what the excellent and knowledgeable posters here have mentioned on this and other threads. I'm learning a bunch as it is. Thanks to all for posting and especially to Greg for quite amicably agreeing to let me post these pics in order to learn. This is quite a place.
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20 August 2011, 03:02 AM
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  Everything else is appreciated, man Please clarify the 'n inside CB'. As far as movement - I am a firm believer in that the less times a vintage piece is opened, the better. Plus I carefully consider my sources, so have no reason to doubt. Besides, most of the time a recipient of a vintage watch will open it himself anyway, and in an unlikely case something is 'weird', they have full recourse with me and will be made whole immediately.
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20 August 2011, 03:02 AM
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Orchi would agree with you wholeheartedly... n this is what Orchi sees...in retail. 1. Original Case+CB could fetch up to $800 2. Dial being in pristine conditions may be >$1000 3. Hands with nice Patina n flawless lumes conditions may be another $500~$600 4. Bezel assembly being nice n all $400 5. US Riveted band being in fair state of conditions $500~$600 6. Cal.1575 GMT movement may be >$1300 So...if it was Orchi having to deal with this watch... it would be considered to be sold for parts...
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20 August 2011, 03:08 AM
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n knowing you all this while for being a great Gentleman n Seller... Orchi went ahead to post own opinions... in spite of seeing later on the notification from Buddy Earl... As Buddy Nikos has clearly commented... this 1675 GMT could yield better potential as parts... strictly on business sense... Cheers to you... P/S: Orchi usually would open CB to take pictures inside a case... in closed...clean...n air conditioned environment... when relative humidity n elements would not be bad enough... to cause any ill effects...inside. |
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20 August 2011, 03:10 AM
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good to see you back The 1675 mentioned by the OP is a decent watch and I would never part something like that out but would use my math and yours for a realistic price. This BTW is how I buy every watch unless its so mint I must have it and then I pay whatever....
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