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Alcan · 27 May 2007, 02:01 PM

I have an itch to buy another watch. Looking at the Omega line. I've seen Speedmaster Professional and Speedmaster Automatic, and different calibers of the Professional. Anyone care to give me the Readers' Digest primer on Omega's?

roadcarver · 27 May 2007, 02:40 PM

You can read through these...

http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/tzof_faq.html

http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/tzof_links.html

I have an Omega SMP 2531.80 and I love it. The bond bracelet is very comfortable. If you recall, I also had a PO but sold it since I was buying a Van.

I have another Omega on the way - one that I gave up to get my Breitling, but it is on its way back to me

G.J · 27 May 2007, 06:52 PM

Hmm, If I had to choose between the Pro and the reduced, I would go for the Pro, no question about it.

Here take a look over here: http://www.speedmaster-mission.net/

One of the best sites about Speedies..

C.J. · 27 May 2007, 08:59 PM

Al, I've had a few Omegas and I just can't think of one bad thing to say about them. Honestly, if I could only have one watch for the rest of my life, it would probably be an SMP

mike · 27 May 2007, 10:22 PM

Al,

In the Speedmaster line the Pro is my pick. Tough as nails and a lot of history. I have a vintage model with an 861 movement that is crazy accurate.

I prefer the hesalite crystal but it doescome in sapphire.

In the diver's models there are several versions I've had experience with. The Bond SMP is a striking watch (and can be had in a GMT style) Mine was a +1 sec. a day watch.
I have a 2254 now and just love it. The lume is fantastic and I prefer the Gladiator hands.

The only rub I have with the SMP line is the bezel is harder to turn with wet or gloved hands that the coin edge of the PO line.

If you want a heavier piece that sits up higher the PO has a lot going for it. I had one but sold it to help fund some old Rolex LOL!

haakon59 · 28 May 2007, 12:51 AM

Omega makes a high quality watch. Value or bang for the buck is very high. In some forums there has been discussion that Omega automatic chronographs, using the Piguet 33xx series of movements have trouble with reliability/stopping. When presented with these watches Omega has offered to fix them for free, even when out of warranty. Although I can't say this with certainty because I don't work at Omega, my guess is that this issue no longer is a factor and has been solved. The Speedmaster "Moonwatch" which has the hand wound movement has always been extremely reliable. I personally have never had a single problem with my Omegas--they are accurate, durable, long lasting, and stylish. I think they are one of the best values out there. Frankly, I know quite a few people who own Omega, both older and newer models, and not a single person I know has had anything but the best experience with this brand. Best of luck to you. I think that many collectors think of the hand wound Speedmaster "Moon" watch as being the most collectible from a "historical" perspective and Omega has been producing this model for about 50 years now.

Subfiend · 28 May 2007, 01:04 AM

I have three Speedy Pros, two vintage and one modern. I have sold two Automatics because I thought they were too small for me. Great watch, but 40 mm is what I prefer.

FYI, the new Omegas lose their initial value pretty quickly, so look for a good discount.

G.J · 28 May 2007, 02:27 AM

Alcan · 28 May 2007, 02:30 AM

Thanks for all the info, guys.

The links you supplied will keep me busy reading for a while!

Blue Bull · 28 May 2007, 03:41 AM

Had a serious look at Omega's.The only one I ended up considering was the SMP "Moonwatch".However,since I get the same discount on Rolex and Omega(The same AD),Rolex just proved a much better buy.I decided on the white dial Expl II 16570 to ad to my Rolex collection.Very glad I did.I love this watch !!

Alex Stylianou · 28 May 2007, 06:47 AM

Congrats

President · 28 May 2007, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Stylianou

Congrats

scotw · 28 May 2007, 07:17 AM

Well I have both the black SMP and the Speedy and I just love the Speedy, so I'd recommend the Pro 3570.50. Personally I think it looks better in the Crystal, but the display back is fantastic so you can either retro fit one, or buy a pre-loved 3573.50.

Either way, you'll get a great watch!

leopardprey · 28 May 2007, 12:41 PM

In many ways I would say a OMega SMP or Speedmaster is better than a Rolex:

1. Cost about 40% less.

2. Better fit and finish

3. Better designed bracelet and clasp

4. Better lumination of hands and dial

In terms of movement, I would say they are both about equal in terms of reliability.

Rolex will hold it's value better.

I wore an Omega SMP for 3 years trhough some very harsh environments. Security Operations in Iraq, travel throughout Asia, DOS shooting schools, etc.. Never had an issue. Gave the watch to my brother several months ago, who is going through a very physically demanding federal law enforcement training program and the watch is holding up great for him as well. I do really miss the watch. And truth be told, if I had to do it all over again, even though I really enjoy my Rolex watches and other watches in my collection, would have just bought a couple of new OMegas.

The SMP, Planet Oceans, and Speedmasters, and the Railmasters are fine watches!

leopardprey · 28 May 2007, 07:10 PM

G. J. :

Here take a look over here: http://www.speedmaster-mission.net/

Thanls for that link. One of the best Watch sites I have seen. Everything you ever wanted to know about the speedmaster. have to get the professional with the see through back. The movement is really nice looking!

Alcan · 28 May 2007, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.J

Here take a look over here: http://www.speedmaster-mission.net/

One of the best sites about Speedies..

I'll second what Chad said. The History button gives great info. Thanks!

leopardprey · 28 May 2007, 10:22 PM

Alcan,

If I was you, I would get the Speedmaster Professional Manual wind with the see through back. It is really stunning to see the movement. No rotar to get in the way of seeing the movement. Be a real nice compliment to your Sub.

Alcan · 28 May 2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leopardprey

Alcan,

If I was you, I would get the Speedmaster Professional Manual wind with the see through back. It is really stunning to see the movement. No rotar to get in the way of seeing the movement. Be a real nice compliment to your Sub.

I think I'm leaning that way. Besides, I already have more automatics than winders.

kingblackbolt · 29 May 2007, 12:28 AM

Al,

If you need someone to shop with you just let me know I know a good place in Woodbridge which gives some pretty good discounts... of course you'd have to take me out on that boat of yours as a trade!

G.J · 29 May 2007, 03:57 AM

C.J. · 29 May 2007, 04:00 AM

Does anyone here know if you can get a Speedy pro with hesalite crystal and a see through display back?

JJ Irani · 29 May 2007, 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C.J.

Does anyone here know if you can get a Speedy pro with hesalite crystal and a see through display back?

No!!

G.J · 29 May 2007, 04:43 AM

Yep, there is a hesalite front and sapphire back.
I happen to own two of them..

A cal.321 and a cal.861

There is also the sapphire sandwich, nice and heavy..

I don't have one of these..

C.J. · 29 May 2007, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.J

Yep, there is a hesalite front and sapphire back.
I happen to own two of them..

A cal.321 and a cal.861

There is also the sapphire sandwich, nice and heavy..

I don't have one of these..

Really? That's awesome. Thanks, GJ. Can you tell me the model numbers? The only Omega dealer I have in the area is Tourneau and I can't stand even walking in there, let along talking to them and I can't find it on the Omega website.

G.J · 29 May 2007, 05:12 AM

http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303...000&no_cache=1

Discontinued, so you have to buy pre-loved i am afraid..

http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303...000&no_cache=1

C.J. · 29 May 2007, 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.J

http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303...000&no_cache=1

Discontinued, so you have to buy pre-loved i am afraid..

http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303...000&no_cache=1

Thanks, G.J., very much

G.J · 29 May 2007, 05:31 AM

You are welcome..

G.J · 29 May 2007, 05:32 AM

Here a shot of my Hesalite/Sapphire..Speedy

ck867 · 29 May 2007, 08:11 AM

not to be rude and go off topic but has anyone purchased an omega watch from alan furman? I havent heard of anyone talking about omega watches from them yet?

JJ Irani · 29 May 2007, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ck867

not to be rude and go off topic but has anyone purchased an omega watch from alan furman? I havent heard of anyone talking about omega watches from them yet?

I guess if they can be relied upon for their Rolex stuff, I don't think there should be a problem with any of their other brands.

JJ

27 May 2007, 02:01 PM	#1
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Buying an Omega I have an itch to buy another watch. Looking at the Omega line. I've seen Speedmaster Professional and Speedmaster Automatic, and different calibers of the Professional. Anyone care to give me the Readers' Digest primer on Omega's? __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

27 May 2007, 02:40 PM	#2
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	You can read through these... http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/tzof_faq.html http://home.xnet.com/~cmaddox/tzof_links.html I have an Omega SMP 2531.80 and I love it. The bond bracelet is very comfortable. If you recall, I also had a PO but sold it since I was buying a Van. I have another Omega on the way - one that I gave up to get my Breitling, but it is on its way back to me __________________ I'm just a cook...

27 May 2007, 08:59 PM	#4
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Al, I've had a few Omegas and I just can't think of one bad thing to say about them. Honestly, if I could only have one watch for the rest of my life, it would probably be an SMP __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

28 May 2007, 01:04 AM	#7
Subfiend "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Outside Watch: Isn't it obvious? Posts: 1,924	I have three Speedy Pros, two vintage and one modern. I have sold two Automatics because I thought they were too small for me. Great watch, but 40 mm is what I prefer. FYI, the new Omegas lose their initial value pretty quickly, so look for a good discount. __________________ Subfiend

28 May 2007, 02:30 AM	#9
Alcan 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Al Location: Way Up North Watch: your P's & Q's Posts: 10,473	Thanks for all the info, guys. The links you supplied will keep me busy reading for a while! __________________ Member #1,315 I don't want to get technical, but according to chemistry alcohol IS a solution!

27 May 2007, 06:52 PM	#3
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	Hmm, If I had to choose between the Pro and the reduced, I would go for the Pro, no question about it. Here take a look over here: http://www.speedmaster-mission.net/ One of the best sites about Speedies..

27 May 2007, 10:22 PM	#5
mike "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 22,683	Al, In the Speedmaster line the Pro is my pick. Tough as nails and a lot of history. I have a vintage model with an 861 movement that is crazy accurate. I prefer the hesalite crystal but it doescome in sapphire. In the diver's models there are several versions I've had experience with. The Bond SMP is a striking watch (and can be had in a GMT style) Mine was a +1 sec. a day watch. I have a 2254 now and just love it. The lume is fantastic and I prefer the Gladiator hands. The only rub I have with the SMP line is the bezel is harder to turn with wet or gloved hands that the coin edge of the PO line. If you want a heavier piece that sits up higher the PO has a lot going for it. I had one but sold it to help fund some old Rolex LOL!

28 May 2007, 12:51 AM	#6
haakon59 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,571	Omega makes a high quality watch. Value or bang for the buck is very high. In some forums there has been discussion that Omega automatic chronographs, using the Piguet 33xx series of movements have trouble with reliability/stopping. When presented with these watches Omega has offered to fix them for free, even when out of warranty. Although I can't say this with certainty because I don't work at Omega, my guess is that this issue no longer is a factor and has been solved. The Speedmaster "Moonwatch" which has the hand wound movement has always been extremely reliable. I personally have never had a single problem with my Omegas--they are accurate, durable, long lasting, and stylish. I think they are one of the best values out there. Frankly, I know quite a few people who own Omega, both older and newer models, and not a single person I know has had anything but the best experience with this brand. Best of luck to you. I think that many collectors think of the hand wound Speedmaster "Moon" watch as being the most collectible from a "historical" perspective and Omega has been producing this model for about 50 years now.

28 May 2007, 02:27 AM	#8
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094

28 May 2007, 03:41 AM	#10
Blue Bull Banned Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,887	Had a serious look at Omega's.The only one I ended up considering was the SMP "Moonwatch".However,since I get the same discount on Rolex and Omega(The same AD),Rolex just proved a much better buy.I decided on the white dial Expl II 16570 to ad to my Rolex collection.Very glad I did.I love this watch !!

28 May 2007, 06:47 AM	#11
Alex Stylianou "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,785	Congrats

28 May 2007, 07:17 AM	#13
scotw "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: UK Posts: 54	Well I have both the black SMP and the Speedy and I just love the Speedy, so I'd recommend the Pro 3570.50. Personally I think it looks better in the Crystal, but the display back is fantastic so you can either retro fit one, or buy a pre-loved 3573.50. Either way, you'll get a great watch!

28 May 2007, 12:41 PM	#14
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	In many ways I would say a OMega SMP or Speedmaster is better than a Rolex: 1. Cost about 40% less. 2. Better fit and finish 3. Better designed bracelet and clasp 4. Better lumination of hands and dial In terms of movement, I would say they are both about equal in terms of reliability. Rolex will hold it's value better. I wore an Omega SMP for 3 years trhough some very harsh environments. Security Operations in Iraq, travel throughout Asia, DOS shooting schools, etc.. Never had an issue. Gave the watch to my brother several months ago, who is going through a very physically demanding federal law enforcement training program and the watch is holding up great for him as well. I do really miss the watch. And truth be told, if I had to do it all over again, even though I really enjoy my Rolex watches and other watches in my collection, would have just bought a couple of new OMegas. The SMP, Planet Oceans, and Speedmasters, and the Railmasters are fine watches!

28 May 2007, 07:10 PM	#15
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	G. J. : Here take a look over here: http://www.speedmaster-mission.net/ Thanls for that link. One of the best Watch sites I have seen. Everything you ever wanted to know about the speedmaster. have to get the professional with the see through back. The movement is really nice looking!

28 May 2007, 10:22 PM	#17
leopardprey Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Chad Location: Around the world Watch: Panerai 233 Posts: 4,204	Alcan, If I was you, I would get the Speedmaster Professional Manual wind with the see through back. It is really stunning to see the movement. No rotar to get in the way of seeing the movement. Be a real nice compliment to your Sub.

29 May 2007, 12:28 AM	#19
kingblackbolt "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Real Name: Ren Location: Toronto On Canada Posts: 1,886	Al, If you need someone to shop with you just let me know I know a good place in Woodbridge which gives some pretty good discounts... of course you'd have to take me out on that boat of yours as a trade! __________________ “Hail to the king, baby" Ash (Army of Darkness 1992)

29 May 2007, 03:57 AM	#20
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094

29 May 2007, 04:00 AM	#21
C.J. "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: * Posts: 10,196	Does anyone here know if you can get a Speedy pro with hesalite crystal and a see through display back? __________________ Me? I'm still looking for Kokomo. I just hope that damn golfer isn't there

29 May 2007, 04:43 AM	#23
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	Yep, there is a hesalite front and sapphire back. I happen to own two of them.. A cal.321 and a cal.861 There is also the sapphire sandwich, nice and heavy.. I don't have one of these..

29 May 2007, 05:12 AM	#25
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303...000&no_cache=1 Discontinued, so you have to buy pre-loved i am afraid.. http://www.omega.ch/index.php?id=303...000&no_cache=1

29 May 2007, 05:31 AM	#27
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	You are welcome..

29 May 2007, 05:32 AM	#28
G.J "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Planet Earth Posts: 2,094	Here a shot of my Hesalite/Sapphire..Speedy

29 May 2007, 08:11 AM	#29
ck867 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: California Posts: 30	not to be rude and go off topic but has anyone purchased an omega watch from alan furman? I havent heard of anyone talking about omega watches from them yet?

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