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tenerific · 13 September 2019, 10:09 PM

Stumbled across this the other day -

Beautiful, right?

Thing is, it’s FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. Which I’d understand, maybe, if it was a 1680/8. But it’s a 16808. For that type of money, I’d definitely go the 1680/8 plexi route.

(For perspective, HQ sold a NOS stickered 16808 earlier a few months ago for low 20s)

Realistically, what is the likelihood that a current non tropical 16808 would turn tropical? Is there anything to be gleaned from the serial? Could one - ahem - just go swimming in the ocean with the crown unwound to achieve something similar?

I understand some premium for this type of thing but this degree of premium is a bit nutty.

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roh123 · 13 September 2019, 11:03 PM

Tropical is a widely used term. Imho brown gold dials turn purple. This just look water damaged to me but each to their own. If someone likes this and want to pay for it so be it.

77T · 13 September 2019, 11:17 PM

The tritium in the nipple hour plots doesn’t tell a water damage story. They seem amazingly good compared to the dial paint. That does suggest some “out of midcase” manipulation.

But the price is a wholly separate matter...borderline insanity perhaps?

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tenerific · 14 September 2019, 12:28 AM

Yeah the dial almost looks etched away, like with acetone or rubbing alcohol or something

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tenerific · 25 September 2019, 11:21 AM

What is the going rate for 16808s these days anyway? Someone please confirm for me that this price is indeed crazy.

Also - how would a dial ever become tropical and the case not be simultaneously beat to shit?

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Juhuatai · 25 September 2019, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tenerific

Also - how would a dial ever become tropical and the case not be simultaneously beat to shit?

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This is easy- water intrusion.

Chewbacca · 25 September 2019, 02:29 PM

Not a fan of tropic dials and that price is robbery.

BisonHead · 26 September 2019, 02:20 AM

I saw a similar dial on a rooter GMT up for sale this week. Could not make out the dial writing. Was thinking it was the pics, but seeing this it was very similar.

Trying to see if i can remember where it was and will post link.

michael067 · 27 September 2019, 01:16 PM

Johnnie K · 28 September 2019, 09:44 AM

The dial does look as though there was some moisture invasion, even though the nipples look clean. Or as was said earlier some kind of manipulation of the dial occurred. It definitely looks nice, but the price does seem way over the top.

13 September 2019, 10:09 PM	#1
tenerific "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 123	Tropical Dial Question, Definitely Not Kosher Stumbled across this the other day - Beautiful, right? Thing is, it’s FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS. Which I’d understand, maybe, if it was a 1680/8. But it’s a 16808. For that type of money, I’d definitely go the 1680/8 plexi route. (For perspective, HQ sold a NOS stickered 16808 earlier a few months ago for low 20s) Realistically, what is the likelihood that a current non tropical 16808 would turn tropical? Is there anything to be gleaned from the serial? Could one - ahem - just go swimming in the ocean with the crown unwound to achieve something similar? I understand some premium for this type of thing but this degree of premium is a bit nutty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 September 2019, 11:03 PM	#2
roh123 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Real Name: Per Location: Sweden Watch: Gilt Rolex Posts: 2,946	Tropical is a widely used term. Imho brown gold dials turn purple. This just look water damaged to me but each to their own. If someone likes this and want to pay for it so be it. __________________ Instagram: @perj123

13 September 2019, 11:17 PM	#3
77T 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 40,725	The tritium in the nipple hour plots doesn’t tell a water damage story. They seem amazingly good compared to the dial paint. That does suggest some “out of midcase” manipulation. But the price is a wholly separate matter...borderline insanity perhaps? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

14 September 2019, 12:28 AM	#4
tenerific "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 123	Yeah the dial almost looks etched away, like with acetone or rubbing alcohol or something Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 September 2019, 11:21 AM	#5
tenerific "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 123	What is the going rate for 16808s these days anyway? Someone please confirm for me that this price is indeed crazy. Also - how would a dial ever become tropical and the case not be simultaneously beat to shit? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 September 2019, 02:29 PM	#7
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,113	Not a fan of tropic dials and that price is robbery.

26 September 2019, 02:20 AM	#8
BisonHead "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: UK Watch: Sub,SD,DJ,OP Posts: 1,950	I saw a similar dial on a rooter GMT up for sale this week. Could not make out the dial writing. Was thinking it was the pics, but seeing this it was very similar. Trying to see if i can remember where it was and will post link.

27 September 2019, 01:16 PM	#9
michael067 Banned Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Mike Location: Las Vegas Watch: TT DJ 16233 Posts: 1,002

28 September 2019, 09:44 AM	#10
Johnnie K "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Real Name: John Location: Florida Posts: 73	The dial does look as though there was some moisture invasion, even though the nipples look clean. Or as was said earlier some kind of manipulation of the dial occurred. It definitely looks nice, but the price does seem way over the top.

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