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Thanks Neil, wise words
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I remember passing a 15202 jumbo for $19k in Jan this year, now ADs won’t even take my name down. Seems like Daytona 116500, Nautilus 5711, RO 15202 is the new holy trinity Quote:
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Were you told 1 year for the Perp ceramic? That's not too bad. Resale is 25% over at the moment so not outrageous. |
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I'm hoping that good karma will mean a 5712 will come... that one has been a real frustrating one to find. |
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5 December 2017, 04:17 AM | #66 | |
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My AD can get me Pateks, but seriously not any AP im interested in |
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"Def strange that the base models are now used as rewards for the grand comp buyers, world's turned upside down."
Agree. Locking out potential first time buyers from modestly priced popular sport PPs can't bode well for future sales to that same group of the dress and more complicated models those buyers might want to add next. Those very same models struggling big time now.
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My current AD isnt like that so im happy, but it took a lot of that attitude from various AD's to finally find my current AD. |
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5 December 2017, 08:50 AM | #70 |
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When I was at the big Regent's St Patek AD I was grilling the salesman about how they never have sports models and maybe I went on about TS as well and probably the D500 and the whole market too, and the exasperated salesman, after telling me the VCO is the better watch, then asked me twice if I was working undercover for PP. I had to show him my gold Subc to finally pacify him, but clearly he is under pressure and a bit paranoid. So it was nice to terrorise them back for a change.
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TS lifts Nautilus production and that's all his company will be known for... he'll lose a great deal more in brand equity for the sake of a brief period of lots of sales. And this period WILL be brief, while the Nautilus remains a la mode. It won't remain hot forever, as things always go in and out of fashion...and then what happens?
His problem is not Nautilus/Aquanaut or anything else other than he makes far too many of his other pieces, regardless of Chinese/Far Eastern demand. From his current collection (ex Nautilus/Aquanaut), only a handful of pieces retain value like they used to, only a handful are "hard to get", and now his overall brand is following the likes of Breguet and ALS as making beautiful financial liabilities... And this was NOT the case before. I can't see ANY of his current pieces doing well at auction years from now. And given that "VALUE" is key tenet in his own PP philosophy, and the brands prestige has been so centrally based on auction results (in which PP have themselves participated to support values) and "financials" then he's screwed up the brand. CUT PRODUCTION. Simple as that. Just my 2c. PS. The 5205R is GORGEOUS. P.P.S And no I'm not bitter. I got my 5711 A after only a few months a list from my very kind AD. |
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Agreed. Cutting production and investing some money in the backend servicing would help a lot. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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