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View Poll Results: Should a Patek AD require a substantial jewelry purchase prior to 5522 allocation? | |||
Yes, any AD can do whatever they want. | 19 | 21.35% | |
Yes, but only with the prior approval of Patek. | 6 | 6.74% | |
No, it's unscrupulous, illegitimate, and tarnishes the brand. | 60 | 67.42% | |
I refuse to answer for fear of banishment. | 6 | 6.74% | |
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 89. You may not vote on this poll |
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28 November 2017, 01:02 PM | #31 | |
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28 November 2017, 01:18 PM | #32 |
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Well I’m glad you got one. Vastly different post than the double sealed ones I’ve seen from the countless posts from grey market sellers.
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28 November 2017, 01:31 PM | #33 |
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28 November 2017, 01:52 PM | #34 |
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28 November 2017, 02:09 PM | #35 |
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Louis, could you please tell me is there really a waitlist of several years for the 5711 blue dial my friend? If someone could pm me an AD willing to sell for say 20-25% off...
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29 November 2017, 01:17 AM | #36 |
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29 November 2017, 01:52 AM | #37 |
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I think 5522 its a great starter watch for the new collector, they can flip it (with no remorse, because lets face it, there is nothing special about it) and get a complicated Patek instead; that's a great starter watch if you ask me
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29 November 2017, 04:33 AM | #38 | |
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Then again it seems like whenever I flip a patek they go up in value. Just like me and the stock market Soo...I will wait and enjoy for now.
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29 November 2017, 04:45 AM | #39 | |
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29 November 2017, 04:57 AM | #40 |
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Mine is not new anymore so I doubt there would be cash my way. Or add cash and ball out 5170P
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29 November 2017, 05:06 AM | #41 |
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I’d ball out
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29 November 2017, 05:07 AM | #42 |
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You hit out of the ballpark. There is nothing special about the 5522. It did not even have a reasonable price for what it was. Nevertheless, it is in high demand so it can be easily flipped for a more complicated model. I suspect you could do an even trade for the 5524 or better.
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29 November 2017, 11:11 AM | #43 | |
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29 November 2017, 11:27 AM | #44 |
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Sounds like a plan. Can I borrow 40k?
I generally feel the same way. Something I need to think about. I wouldn’t really want to sell and then buy. I’ve sold a few but I’m not dealer. I’m sure dealers would want a fad wad of cash their way.
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29 November 2017, 11:54 AM | #45 |
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I wouldn't flip straight away, I'd wear and enjoy for at least a couple of months and then take a bit of a hit for that too.
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29 November 2017, 12:35 PM | #46 |
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I'm trying to figure out how Tony got away with making this poll......
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29 November 2017, 10:16 PM | #47 | |
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Even more surprising is that it hasn't yet been derailed by incendiary comments. Maybe it demonstrates that we are capable of civil discourse, on a hot button topic, without devolving into anarchy. The poll was intended to provide both a constructive outlet for emotion and an opportunity for discussion, while averting any further loss to our membership. What have I learned from this? First, many AD's require some sort of conditional purchase prior to allocation of an in-demand timepiece. Whether prior watch purchases, or substantial pieces of jewelry, it's not an uncommon practice and it's not isolated to the watch industry. Second, a significant number of forum members have no issue with that business model, or at least feel that the AD is not acting inappropriately in doing so. Third, although I personally believe that such practice is contrary to the expressed interest of Thierry Stern, I now recognize that his words may be more rhetoric than substance. Finally, while I support capitalism to its fullest, I also have a strong sense of ethics and fair play, and I don't find these concepts incompatible. If one believes that an AD shouldn't sell above MSRP, then intellectual honesty requires acknowledgment that these conditional purchases are taking unfair advantage of an obvious loophole. Smart business? Perhaps. Ethical? I say not. And I voted on this poll and, more importantly, with my dollar. Thanks to those who participated. Whether I share your views or not, be assured that I value your opinions and have learned a great deal. Thanks to Steve (Lol-x) for providing this great platform, and to the forum moderators for allowing this exchange of ideas to continue. |
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29 November 2017, 10:52 PM | #48 | |
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7 December 2017, 12:44 AM | #49 | |
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7 December 2017, 12:47 AM | #50 |
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5711/a is an overrated watch. It ugly and overpriced in my opinion and it a flipper model. But well, which patek is not overpriced? Lol I got 2 but sold it both away without premium. Can call me silly or stupid lol
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7 December 2017, 04:11 AM | #51 |
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Yes ugly is just your subjective opinion. And obviously a minority one. In mine the Nautilus is my most favourite design of watch. Just buying the Aquanaut has actually confirmed that.
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8 December 2017, 03:52 AM | #52 |
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