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Ballzzz · 12 October 2018, 09:41 PM

Intuition tells me NO, but here is the scenario. Prospective buyer wants to send money via Western Union. My initial thought is wire transfer ONLY. I feal both PayPal & Western Union can somehow end up in a scam. Espically since the inquirer has no forum history. Would you guys say only accept wire or am I being difficult?

Thanks

pilotjim · 12 October 2018, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Intuition tells me NO, but here is the scenario. Prospective buyer wants to send money via Western Union. My initial thought is wire transfer ONLY. I feal both PayPal & Western Union can somehow end up in a scam. Espically since the inquirer has no forum history. Would you guys say only accept wire or am I being difficult?

Thanks

I think WU is pretty straightforward. You walk in with a transaction number and ID, you walk out with cash. If you are receiving money, I'm not sure how you can be scammed.

beshannon · 12 October 2018, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

I think WU is pretty straightforward. You walk in with a transaction number and ID, you walk out with cash. If you are receiving money, I'm not sure how you can be scammed.

Easily and there is not a chance I would ever use that service to move money.

Ballzzz · 13 October 2018, 12:12 AM

No he is saying he will transfer to my bank via Western Union

beshannon · 13 October 2018, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballzzz

No he is saying he will transfer to my bank via Western Union

Bank wire or nothing, good luck

CorradoBrit · 13 October 2018, 12:39 AM

Anyone insisting on WU is out to scam. Bank to bank transfer should be your only option for this type of buyer, barring F2F.

Knappo 1307 · 13 October 2018, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Easily and there is not a chance I would ever use that service to move money.

This..

pilotjim · 13 October 2018, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Easily and there is not a chance I would ever use that service to move money.

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Originally Posted by beshannon

Bank wire or nothing, good luck

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Originally Posted by Knappo 1307

This..

Clarify....how does a receiver of cash at WU get scammed?

beshannon · 13 October 2018, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Clarify....how does a receiver of cash at WU get scammed?

At one time there was a massive scam going on with fake Western Union money orders that were deposited and immediately sent. When the funds were not there the transaction was reversed.

Bottom line is each seller has to decide how much they are willing to risk in this environment of being able to transfer money through legitimate means, not questionable ones.

214270Explorer · 13 October 2018, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Anyone insisting on WU is out to scam. Bank to bank transfer should be your only option for this type of buyer, barring F2F.

Do this or forever hold your peace IF you somehow get burned. Risks are just not worth it. This forum is filled with horror stories of [sometimes very subtle] scams.

CorradoBrit · 13 October 2018, 03:59 AM

Scams and scammers are constantly evolving. Why risk accepting any form of payment that has been known to be problematic in the past. The lack of flexibility from the buyer side is cause from concern and should raise red flags.

Knappo 1307 · 13 October 2018, 04:29 AM

Plus if you have to physically go to western Union and use funds from your bank acct. You can physically go to your bank and do the same transaction via wire. As Beshannon stated above, there have been Western Union scams in the past.

freefly · 13 October 2018, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ballzzz

Prospective buyer wants to send money via Western Union.

Just to pile on: No dice. As in: Never accept WU for payment, ever.

crowncollection · 13 October 2018, 05:50 AM

No way

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J_1964 · 13 October 2018, 08:26 AM

Western Union Has Been Recently SUED For Suborning FRAUD. I Would NEVER Use Western Union.

pilotjim · 13 October 2018, 08:35 AM

Lots of answers, but not a single explanation of how I could walk out of a WU location with cash in my hand and yet somehow still be getting "scammed."

I don't get it.

CorradoBrit · 13 October 2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Lots of answers, but not a single explanation of how I could walk out of a WU location with cash in my hand and yet somehow still be getting "scammed."

I don't get it.

Sure if you can walk out with cash and then ship the watch. But this knumbnut wants to deposit the funds via WU to sellers bank. Clear scam attempt

Here's some good reasons to avoid WU for any other transaction
https://www.thebalance.com/western-union-scams-315825

J_1964 · 13 October 2018, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Lots of answers, but not a single explanation of how I could walk out of a WU location with cash in my hand and yet somehow still be getting "scammed."

I don't get it.

I understand what you are saying. A Seller receiving payment can't really get scammed (as long as the watch was NOT shipped before payment is in hand), but a buyer certainly could....

pilotjim · 13 October 2018, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by CorradoBrit

Sure if you can walk out with cash and then ship the watch. But this knumbnut wants to deposit the funds via WU to sellers bank. Clear scam attempt

Here's some good reasons to avoid WU for any other transaction
https://www.thebalance.com/western-union-scams-315825

Ah, well that makes more sense. I wasn't understanding that from the original post. I thought he just meant the buyer was sending him a WU payment that he would pick up at a WU location.

CorradoBrit · 13 October 2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by pilotjim

Ah, well that makes more sense. I wasn't understanding that from the original post. I thought he just meant the buyer was sending him a WU payment that he would pick up at a WU location.

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freefly · 13 October 2018, 10:28 AM

It's a shady company, regardless. Even if I was 100% sure that a deal involving WU was legit, I'd still pass.
I'd rather not contribute to a company that is complicit in worldwide money laundering (which funds organized crime and terrorism to a large degree). YMMV...

I'll just leave this here.

J_1964 · 13 October 2018, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by freefly

It's a shady company, regardless. Even if I was 100% sure that a deal involving WU was legit, I'd still pass.
I'd rather not contribute to a company that is complicit in worldwide money laundering (which funds organized crime and terrorism to a large degree). YMMV...

I'll just leave this here.

This.

Juclaq · 13 October 2018, 12:25 PM

Do not do a Western Union. It is a scam.

DahMan · 13 October 2018, 12:40 PM

It’s been years, but I also think the fees charged by WU, would be far greater than bank to bank transfer. They take a pretty good chunk....

CorradoBrit · 13 October 2018, 12:47 PM

Bank transfer can cost as little as $10 if not in any hurry.

Ballzzz · 13 October 2018, 01:26 PM

Thanks guys - you guys echoed my original hesitation.

12 October 2018, 09:41 PM	#1
Ballzzz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NY Posts: 2,474	Western Union Intuition tells me NO, but here is the scenario. Prospective buyer wants to send money via Western Union. My initial thought is wire transfer ONLY. I feal both PayPal & Western Union can somehow end up in a scam. Espically since the inquirer has no forum history. Would you guys say only accept wire or am I being difficult? Thanks __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein

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13 October 2018, 08:35 AM	#16
pilotjim "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: Mass Watch: BLNR Posts: 439	Lots of answers, but not a single explanation of how I could walk out of a WU location with cash in my hand and yet somehow still be getting "scammed." I don't get it. __________________ "Never attempt to dry a pet in your oven." LG Owner's Manual

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Ballzzz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NY Posts: 2,474	Thanks guys - you guys echoed my original hesitation. __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein

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13 October 2018, 12:12 AM	#4
Ballzzz 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NY Posts: 2,474	No he is saying he will transfer to my bank via Western Union __________________ Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. - Albert Einstein

13 October 2018, 12:39 AM	#6
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Anyone insisting on WU is out to scam. Bank to bank transfer should be your only option for this type of buyer, barring F2F.

13 October 2018, 03:59 AM	#11
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Scams and scammers are constantly evolving. Why risk accepting any form of payment that has been known to be problematic in the past. The lack of flexibility from the buyer side is cause from concern and should raise red flags.

13 October 2018, 04:29 AM	#12
Knappo 1307 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Real Name: Jason Location: USA Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 8,557	Plus if you have to physically go to western Union and use funds from your bank acct. You can physically go to your bank and do the same transaction via wire. As Beshannon stated above, there have been Western Union scams in the past.

13 October 2018, 08:26 AM	#15
J_1964 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: NoCal USA Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,955	Western Union Has Been Recently SUED For Suborning FRAUD. I Would NEVER Use Western Union.

13 October 2018, 10:28 AM	#21
freefly "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: Eric Location: AZ Watch: 4&5-digit Sub/GMTs Posts: 1,974	It's a shady company, regardless. Even if I was 100% sure that a deal involving WU was legit, I'd still pass. I'd rather not contribute to a company that is complicit in worldwide money laundering (which funds organized crime and terrorism to a large degree). YMMV... I'll just leave this here.

13 October 2018, 12:25 PM	#23
Juclaq "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: SoCal Watch: Sea Dweller 16600 Posts: 158	Do not do a Western Union. It is a scam.

13 October 2018, 12:40 PM	#24
DahMan Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 635	It’s been years, but I also think the fees charged by WU, would be far greater than bank to bank transfer. They take a pretty good chunk....

13 October 2018, 12:47 PM	#25
CorradoBrit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Europe bound Posts: 1,410	Bank transfer can cost as little as $10 if not in any hurry.

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