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ctdmoses · 5 July 2018, 06:04 AM

I’m thinking of looking at this 1680 since it’s close to where I live, but I have some questions on originality. The dial looks re-finished to me. Any thoughts?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMA...QAAOSw-5dZ-GjP

OliverD · 5 July 2018, 06:35 AM

Dial is indeed refinished, insert isn't correct, hands look uneven in colour and the case has certainly had a polish.

There are better examples out there.

Dr.Smellody · 5 July 2018, 07:49 AM

That dial looks nothing like my early 1680 white looked

Kingface66 · 5 July 2018, 08:02 AM

Chris, ask yourself this: With the quality of those photos, particularly the out-of-focus back of case shot, and the mention that there's only "SOME LIGHT SCUFFS UNDER VERY CLOSE EXAMINATION" (hardly!) how much do you trust them with buying a watch that's close to $10K?

ctdmoses · 5 July 2018, 08:25 AM

Agreed. Thank you for your insights.

MinMay · 5 July 2018, 09:18 AM

saw it...avoided it.

Nycturbovr6 · 7 July 2018, 07:42 AM

Avoid it

bob101 · 9 July 2018, 09:39 PM

Sorry to jump in on this thread but have a similar query; in the market for a 1680 but not sure if this one is original or has had dial replaced. Seems not so much patina for 58x serial, should be 1978. I'm no expert by any means but like the model. It looks similar to an mk2 dial with the open 6s on 660 ft, L of Rolex to left of crown? The h in chronometer and C in certified also line up, but no other letters really align.

However when I view other mark 2 dials the hour marker paint looks not so "thick".

Thanks!

sfc rick · 10 July 2018, 08:52 AM

^^^ That looks like a service dial? it also looks like the bezel needed to be replaced when the dial was replaced, but I question if this watch is artificially aged to try and garner more value. Honestly I'm no expert collector, but I would be asking questions and if it was me(which it's not) I would avoid it.

bob101 · 10 July 2018, 08:43 PM

Do you mean the original link or images I posted above? Thanks

OliverD · 10 July 2018, 11:02 PM

The watch with the faded insert is a mk2 dial.

Loom looks ok to me but hopefully someone with more knowledge of this will chip in.

bob101 · 11 July 2018, 10:34 AM

Thanks Oliver. Yep not too concerned about the condition and polishing mainly if the dial
has been modified at all.

Thanks!

magnetized · 21 August 2019, 11:25 PM

not a service dial..it is a mark 2

5 July 2018, 06:04 AM	#1
ctdmoses "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: ALLENTOWN PA Posts: 47	Thoughts on this 1680 I’m thinking of looking at this 1680 since it’s close to where I live, but I have some questions on originality. The dial looks re-finished to me. Any thoughts? https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-SUBMA...QAAOSw-5dZ-GjP

5 July 2018, 06:35 AM	#2
OliverD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UK Posts: 68	Dial is indeed refinished, insert isn't correct, hands look uneven in colour and the case has certainly had a polish. There are better examples out there.

5 July 2018, 07:49 AM	#3
Dr.Smellody "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 5,193	That dial looks nothing like my early 1680 white looked

5 July 2018, 08:02 AM	#4
Kingface66 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: The Empire State Watch: 1966 Rolex 5513 Posts: 3,414	Chris, ask yourself this: With the quality of those photos, particularly the out-of-focus back of case shot, and the mention that there's only "SOME LIGHT SCUFFS UNDER VERY CLOSE EXAMINATION" (hardly!) how much do you trust them with buying a watch that's close to $10K?

5 July 2018, 08:25 AM	#5
ctdmoses "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Real Name: Chris Location: ALLENTOWN PA Posts: 47	Agreed. Thank you for your insights.

5 July 2018, 09:18 AM	#6
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	saw it...avoided it.

7 July 2018, 07:42 AM	#7
Nycturbovr6 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New York Posts: 7,630	Avoid it

10 July 2018, 08:52 AM	#9
sfc rick "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Real Name: Rickey Higgins Location: Huntington, TX Watch: 1680 Sub in white Posts: 354	^^^ That looks like a service dial? it also looks like the bezel needed to be replaced when the dial was replaced, but I question if this watch is artificially aged to try and garner more value. Honestly I'm no expert collector, but I would be asking questions and if it was me(which it's not) I would avoid it.

10 July 2018, 08:43 PM	#10
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 559	Do you mean the original link or images I posted above? Thanks

10 July 2018, 11:02 PM	#11
OliverD "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UK Posts: 68	The watch with the faded insert is a mk2 dial. Loom looks ok to me but hopefully someone with more knowledge of this will chip in.

11 July 2018, 10:34 AM	#12
bob101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 559	Thanks Oliver. Yep not too concerned about the condition and polishing mainly if the dial has been modified at all. Thanks!

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21 August 2019, 11:25 PM	#13
magnetized "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Real Name: Jeff Location: Los Angeles CA. Watch: aHolic Posts: 331	not a service dial..it is a mark 2